Cuckgau on anti-trump music

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>Dawn Oberg: Nothing Rhymes With Orange (Blossom Theory) It's not good that the most satisfying anti-Trump "long player" yet to surface comprises three compact download-only songs by a Berklee-trained Nashville-to-Frisco lounge DIY-er. But the not good part is the paucity of alternatives—Oberg is a serious talent who gets some nasty licks in. The title track marches smartly from "A walking slab of brain damage beneath a bad toupee" to "He can't grab my snatch but he can bite my bloody rag" without deigning to utter the name of the "orange-tweeting twat" who rhymes with "dump/And stump and chump and bump and lump and hump and slump and rump." That dirty business done, Oberg declines to address him again. Instead she delivers a rhymed disquisition on "double-blind and peer-reviewed" empirical method that's over faster than Fats Domino's "Ain't That a Shame" while repeating "We all enjoy results of scientific inquiry" three times just in case some dumbass missed the point. And then she bids us and history adieu: "I can see the sunset burning at the end of the world from the end of the continent/The final frame of this ill-fated experiment." "I'd Rather Be Wrong," that one is called. It doubts she is. A

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>Tim Heidecker: Too Dumb for Suicide: Tim Heidecker's Trump Songs (Jagjaguwar) Satire is too good for this potbellied pigwad, this flab-dicked jism drizzler, this ADD SOB, this pustule in a truss, this snake oil salesman in a cancer ward, this, I don't know, real estate man. Loathing is all he deserves, and loathing is hard to put into words, so that even a rhetorician as committed as comedian and challenged singer Heidecker has trouble finding language beyond the magnificent "Imperial Bathroom," a detailed description of *****'s black, rocklike, KFC-informed feces that's keyed to the useful catchphrase "Trump dump" and culminates by predicting he'll die on the porcelain throne. But to be fair, "Wilbur Ross" and "Cooked Chinese Chicken" do pack bite if not bile, as does Heidecker's account of his own brave death in the dungeons of Trump Tower. And "Sentencing Day"'s fantasy of ***** shitting in a pail and/or hanging in the sun is kinda sweet. But where's last spring's Father John Misty collab "I Am a Cuck," a sharper song by far than "Trump's Private Pilot," which gets a Misty remake for musical cred here? Face it, Tim—*****'s pilot is licensed to kiss ass. Motherfucker attracts toadies like a sump full of lily pads. B PLUS

The utter impotence of liberal artists in the face of Trump and their total inability to create an anti-Trump work that has some actual bite and impact to it is pretty fascinating to me.

Trump should be such an easy target for satire and criticism and yet every entertainer or artist who's ever attempted to really rip into him came out of the whole thing looking like an emotionally stunted child. I really don't know why that is.

>Trump should be such an easy target for satire and criticism and yet every entertainer or artist who's ever attempted to really rip into him came out of the whole thing looking like an emotionally stunted child. I really don't know why that is.

I think it's BECAUSE he's such an easy target. It's hard to bash Trump without sounding like a Captain Obvious type. Every criticism against him sounds so trite and infantile because any mentally developed human that knows anything about Trump already knows everything people criticize him for, so even if you're hearing someone complain about Trump for the first time in your life, it sounds like a dead horse is being beaten.

It's kind of amazing in a horrible, terrifying way. He's actually so stupid and hapless that the people who mock him seem like the childish ones who are stating the obvious and going with the grain of public opinion. Like Dubya but on steroids and all of the people who grew up hearing their parents whine about Dubya sharing dumb flash games about him are old enough to have political """opinions""" so they rebel by siding with the mongoloid in office that can be made fun of simply by observing him and making factual statements about actual things he thinks, says, and does.

christ he looks just like John Fahey in this pic wtf

am I just stupid or are these reviews nonsense?

its uninspired because every criticism of trump is weak

first time reading a christgau review I see. these are actually substantive by his standards

he has dentures! haha!

right? everyone already knows hes a sexist and manipulative bucket of shit that just fucked the middle class harder than Reagan with this tax plan, but yeah, dentures.

According to who will that "fuck over" the middle class?

Well said

And, in all fairness, it's because many (if not most) musicians are rather childish these days.

According to many economists. Do you not know how to google?

Many middle class families will be worse off because of the cuts to Obamacare. Many will have to essentially pay back their cuts in their Healthcare bills. And many won't be able to make certain deductions anymore, so it'll balance out their cuts, or they'll actually end up with a tax increase

I just know that money will trickle down someday, we just gotta wait! In the meantime we need to make sure the struggling billionaire Job Creators® no longer suffer under oppressive Liberal taxes

It's working. Cry more, soyboy.

It all reminds me of that Bush-era Cboyardee video where GWB is caught under a net and he wears an Islamic star and crescent shirt & just yells "war criminal!!!" at him for like 2 full minutes

>it's working
What's working? You do realize no one is experiencing the tax cuts yet, right?

Wow I love Christgau now

actually good anti-Trump song: youtu.be/los9WulxBjM
by Todd Rundgren and Donald Fagen (2017)

working for who? did you write off your private jet already? meanwhile, i'm still fucked with student loans and won't be able to write off supplies for my classroom, so i would say it is definitely not working.

Please user, explain us how the trickle-down theory will work this time, even if it has been proved countless times in the past that it just doesn't work and only helps to raise wealth inequality and poverty.

ITT

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There's been a failure in creating biting art in a while period. But at lest Trump hicks didn't even try.

no don't post this

I fucking love how they can never argue back once someone starts arguing economics and other policies with them. They love muh SJWS crying about le DRUPFM because it's easy for them to fight back.

Goddamn if Rundgren can't still write a catchy-ass hook. Gonna be humming that for the next few days.

Liberal comedians cant hurt him either because he is a literal walking meme.

The problem with the libs is they forgot how to make art in the obama years. They got too complacent. Turned into these milquetoast neoliberal moral police (essjayydoubleYOUs)

If you want to make a anti trump album dont attack trump. Attack the system which gave us trump. Attack capitalism, attack neoliberlism, attack the democrats too.

Be a fucking artist about it. Use themes, symbols, be subtle.

Bob dylan singing

Come gather 'round people
Wherever you roam
And admit that the waters
Around you have grown
And accept it that soon
You'll be drenched to the bone.
If your time to you
Is worth savin'
Then you better start swimmin'
Or you'll sink like a stone
For the times they are a-changin'.


Is way more poetic and artistic than


DRUMPF IS A BIG OL MEANY POOPY HEAD"

Trump isnt the problem.

Capitalism is.

another thing is liberals realzing how imptent and useless they are.

Yeah, all that punk rock really got bush and regan out of office.

losers

>Liberal comedians cant hurt him either because he is a literal walking meme
Depends on the comedy. If it's stand-up, then I mostly agree with you. John Oliver causes extreme levels of assblast among Trumpettes because he does a pretty good job of destroying them and their God Emperor.

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>le current year man
>destroying anything
lad status: wew

>bush and regan out of office
Their records speak for themselves with how big of a failure they were lmao. Besides, conflating punk and liberalism is coma-level retarded. Retard hahahaha

The easiest way to make an effective Anti-Trump recording is to just make a disc of various dumbass shit he's said from his own mouth.

PFFR is a good example of how to do it right; they rip on rednecks and upper middle class white saviors and ignorant minorities and everything in between that contributes to modern hell. When trump was elected, Vern and John predicted that left leaning comedians weren't going to have anything to work with.

you sound really low energy

>huhuhuhu memes
Hello, Trumpette

libshits btfo

i think waters did a decent job with his recent record. it's not often subtle, but it's emotional and personal enough at times for me to take seriously

You cant champion the democrats because the democrats are centrist status quo neoliberals. The same people who bailed out the banks, expanded the private prison industry, outsourced jobs.

The musical left needs to go full Marxist or go home.

Liberals get the bullet too

If the USA sucks so much, why don't you leave?

Communists aren't people.

this is so cuuuute
bby finally got into marxism awwww

Left wing musicians need to take a general anti elitist stance. This includes liberal elites.
They need to become populists.

Choosing one side doesnt work.

You need to rain down shit on everyone

I'd rather see them go fully elitist, trump is just a generic corrupt politician, the real problem is the people

>smartly from "A walking slab of brain damage beneath a bad toupee" to "He can't grab my snatch but he can bite my bloody rag" without deigning to utter the name of the "orange-tweeting twat" who rhymes with "dump/And stump and chump and bump and lump and hump and slump and rump."
>Satire is too good for this potbellied pigwad, this flab-dicked jism drizzler, this ADD SOB, this pustule in a truss, this snake oil salesman in a cancer ward, this, I don't know, real estate man

The ones who do that don't reach the general public. You either have to sell yourself to the jews or slither in eternal irrelevance.
And by selling yourself, you pick up the liberal stance. They can do their thing scot-free while you shit solely on conservatives.

Telling the people they're stupid will certainly convince them they've been doing shitty decisions, trust me on it.
Our artists down here do exactly that, and guess what? Trust on them and their general message are at an all-time low.

>student loans
>He fell for the "big university experience" meme and signed his soul away for a liberal arts degree

What we really need is more lolbertarian musicians

You can't be serious
Almost there: Leftists aren't people

isnt that how he won the election though?

The only intelligent post in this entire thread.

He won the election because the Dems put up the most cartoonishly evil person they had at their disposal because decades of political string-pulling meant it was "her turn".

>trump famous for decades
>no one hates him
>runs for president
>suddenly they hate him
How about just making anti-war music, the shoe fits

Nope, he won because he was the lesser of two evils and it was a Douche vs. Turd situation.

The libertarian party in the US has become a joke (inb4 >become), all they care about is dude weed and "at least we're not Trump"
Any hope the movement had died with Ron Paul, especially now that people are doubling down on the 2-party system.

Libertarians are all just closet Republicans these days. They always fall in line when push comes to shove.

>Judaism is.
ftfy

trump was a despicable person before, but he didn't really affect me so i didn't care.

Had Bernie gone against Trump, he would have won.
Instead he got screwed and he accepted it like the absolute cuckold he is.
Terrible for him and the ultimate shot in the foot of the Dems.

>you can't be serious
Oh, but I am. Does he hurt your feefees, user? Do you hate it when he takes the name of Lord Trump in vain?

making anti war music now would mean actually addressing the bad shit the obama admin has been doing, which will never happen.

Democrats are the pro-war party as of this cycle.
The fact that they screech for intervention in Russia and Syria after years of crying about "imperialism" SOLELY because it's the opposite of what Drumphfhph wants tells you all you need to know about their values as an organization.

b-b-b-but B-B-B-Bernie w-w-w-woulda w-w-w-won

This

They're essentially far-right republicunts (minus the Christfaggotry) who favor corporate control over government.

Trump deserves all the shit he gets and more but if you're gonna deliver hard hitting political commentary at least say something refreshing that isn't "lol he's orange and fat and a nazi fascist he eats 2 scoops". Make a song about people suffering because they lost their food stamps or something because of him, or a song about charlottesville marches, not just calling him a fat cheeto. That'd be more powerful.

I disagree, no one over the age of 30 would vote for an actual socialist.
I think his support would have plummeted with young undecideds after it was made public that he was just a stooge for Clinton. The "we have to fight the establishment, oops I gave all your donations to the establishment" picture sums it up. I think something a lot of people don't consider is that both him and Trump were so popular with young people because they wanted to vote against the status quo, not necessarily because of party loyalty.

Don't get me wrong, I dislike Bernie's politics, but you can't deny he had a good grasp of the general public and their needs, even if he eventually would fuck things up in the long run.

this

trump is too easy to make fun of. he's like a self parody already. all of it just sounds so contrived and late night talk show tier. reagan was a bumbling demented fool too, but he was revered by the establishment, so there was a little more punch when they ripped on him. trump though, the man's just so ridiculous and over the top already and everyone already hates him and makes fun of him, you're not really saying anything iconoclastic or interesting because we've already heard it all.

There's little doubt he would have. He was far more likeable than Hillary or Trump, had a clean record, and stuck to his message. Also, Clinton lost a lot of votes when it came to light that the DNC was conspiring against him--those votes basically went to trump.

>people suffering because they lost their food stamps
Work retail for one (1) day and say this again

america is fucked.

Or you know, all the coal miners and union people he lied to. All the people from the states that voted for him that are dying from oxy overdose.

bernie is a fucking hack who based his entire platform on achieving economic growth that has never happened in the history of the US and the only workable legislation he ever authored was the naming of a monument

Trump's parcel of popularity came mainly from memesters.
Bernie, on the other hand, held sway of the youth with his fallacious promises of free shit.

trump would have chewed that man up during the debates. i think you forget the level of banter Donald inhibits, he is powerful

>bernie is a fucking hack who based his entire platform on achieving economic growth that has never happened in the history of the US a
Well that happened with this tax cuts anyways. Cause trickle down worked so well with Reagan, Bush, Brownback, etc.

but who will come after trump

>All the people from the states that voted for him that are dying from oxy overdose.

that was happening long before trump was elected

>a stooge for Clinton
Are you really this fucking dense, or is this just a piece of rhetoric you like to spew?

Sanders knew that Clinton was the only thing that stood in the way of Trump becoming president. The fact that most of Trump's positions and policies were antithetical to Sander's would have played a pretty big part in his support for Clinton, don't you think? Not to mention Trump's dubious civil rights records and unappealing personality traits.

Young people who voted Bernie voted Clinton because they were so terrified of Trump. They bought the whole literally hitler propaganda. I don't think they'd care about that if Bernie ran again. They just want the free college and health care. Plus Bernie knows how to tap into that white working class populist anger that won Trump the election because he understands policies that would benefit them, and he actually has a track record of fighting for that so they'd likely flip to him too. CNN and other msm rags may have preferred Clinton, but they'd definitely back Bernie against Trump and give him more of a support machine.

The one thing I could see hurting Bernie is the social left, the idpol sect, the tranny blm pop feminists. Every group outside of college aged millennials and NY/CA hate that group. I think ultimately economics will trump all though.

A Democrat, so that all these college faggots complaining about Trump will shut up.

probably that dyke warren

>had a clean record
A "record" of never holding a real job and spending his Senate career getting absolutely nothing done?
The guy was a useless hippie who only appealed to college kids with meaningless buzz
>stuck to his message
Until a vacation home and Audi are offered up, right?

So? Does that mean he can just wash his hands off? So Obama should have just washed his hands off Iraq because it didn't start under his watch? Fucking moron.

>Obama should have just washed his hands off Iraq because it didn't start under his watch
He did that and then some, and not a single fuck was given.

The problem is the Democrats are a clusterfuck right now. Who are they going to run against Trump? Biden, Sanders, some token black woman no one's heard of, Warren, Zuckerberg? These are shit candidates. I want Trump gone, but I don't want any of these people. I want a true anti-establishment populist leftist candidate. Bernie's the closest, but he's not strong enough on borders.

>trump would have chewed that man up during the debates. i think you forget the level of banter Donald inhibits, he is powerful
Oh, you mean that one line about Clinton being in jail? Yeah, that truly was a brief... very brief... display of wit.

>"no, u are"
>just denying any negative accusation
>saying "believe me" after every thought he was able to muster
>hurling petty, childish insults
Yeah, real powerful

>Does that mean he can just wash his hands off?

Trump declared a state of emergency

OH WOW Emergency solved.

Hopefully you'll never get one. The USA will likely go to shambles if such a candidate reaches power.

>Bernie's the closest, but he's not strong enough on borders.
If you're waiting for the dream candidate to come and satisfy you 100% you might as well never vote again.

>mainly from memesters.
Disagree. Obviously the cult of personality was memetic, but it didn't reach the height it did just from contrarian Sup Forums users. He rose to popularity so fast because he wasn't afraid to say what a lot of people were thinking, and dismiss the usual "establishment" formalities. Ted Cruz or Yeb! never would have gathered the support Trump did because they just came off as more suits from the same mire that's been fucking up the country for the last two decades.
>Hillary Clinton 1.5 electric boogaloo
They never fucking learn do they
They could beat Trump with Tulsi Gabbard unless he pulls some great shit the next year or two.

>tfw the rock is running as a libertarian in 2020
>tfw when he wins

You do understand that frees up federal funds to be used to combat opioid addiction?

>A "record" of never holding a real job and spending his Senate career getting absolutely nothing done?
If he wasn't able to get much accomplished in the senate, it's because you need support to accomplish anything. It's kind of how our system works. But my point stands, no one could dig up a speck of dirt on the guy--that has to count for something after being in politics for over 30 years.

>until a vacation home and Audi are offered up, right?
Uhhh... sure, user. Whatever you say. It would be extremely ironic if you voted for Donald "this tax plan wont benefit me" Trump.

Truth, this is why democrats never vote either. They always want the perfect candidate and don't turn out if they're not passionate, unlike GOP who vote for any ol retard that can sign off tax cuts.

Sure neoliberal democrats suck, but they're preferable to people who just want to suck even more corporate cock and cut social services completely.

Trump's campaign was closer to a populist style campaign than any Republican. It's clear the people want it, the middle classes are tired of getting dicked around by corporations and special interests. The rubes just fell for Trump's marketing.

You can't dig up a speck of dirt on a man whose politics are stuck in the Cold War and in the loser's side.

>Obama should have just washed his hands off Iraq because it didn't start under his watch
He did and the left didn't stop sucking his dick for one second.
>true anti-establishment populist leftist candidate
That will literally, L I T E R A L L Y never happen. The powers that be (interpret that as you will) won't allow any real deviation.

Why is this thread still up?