I just realized this dude's strategy

I just realized this dude's strategy

>the year is 2010: SSLP, MMLP and The Eminem Show are considered the good Em albums
>Encore, Relapse and Recovery are considered the shitty ones
>2013: MMLP2 drops, gets hated on
>Relapse is now considered one of the good ones
>2017: Revival drops, gets a huge amount of hate
>MMLP2 is now considered one of the good ones, Encore and Recovery are now looked at better

Em realized he can't drop another good album to save his life so here is what Em is trying to do:
>drop a shittier album with each release so his previous albums are looked at better in comparison
>another shitty album dropped = another album added to the list of "good" Eminem albums
>thus, Em's discography gets treated better with every shitty album he drops

fucking 5d chess

LP2 was good when it came out and still is good

Damn duded it's like hes totally a genius and not a trash artist really maeks me think

No, he's trash but he's making the best of it

Yeah, except only idiots would fall susceptible to this deception. Eminem was never a good rapper at all; he merely reveled in the cruelty of this world.

pencil neck dill weed

It has some of Em's worst tracks but it has better highlights than Recovery for sure

infinite is still the best album

Hi guys. Marshall here. I'm trying my best to live up to your expectations. Always in search of the verse I haven't spit yet.

>listening to Berzerk and Not Afraid after Just Don't Give a Fuck and Stan
His amount of rhymes are the same, but the flow, lyricism, and rhythm is so off compared to his old stuff it's horrendous.

t. Vince Staples

You missed something much simpler. Time. ALL Eminem albums got mixed reviews at start, he's too far ahead of anybody and listening 1-2 times to an album isn't enough to get it. Shit, with Relapse he was too far ahead of himself and still doesn't realize it's a classic.

Relapse is absolutely shit

Mmlp2 is actually good though

he burned out his reward centers with drugs and now he can't get inspiration anymore.

MMLP2 is shit give me a fucking break, cringeworthy bars, horrible production, one rap feature, fuck o could go on forever, the fact Revive-L exists is because of people praising that album
> Bad Guy-cringey bars, annoying ass beat, stereotypical poppy hook, annoying flow
>Rhyme or Reason- same shit minus poppy hook, somehow its even more annoying
>So Much Better-Ems production is garbage on this, how do you go from beats like Shake That and Smack That, and Fack, Cleanin out My Closet, to beats like this? Not to mention how boring and unfunny it is
>Legacy/ shit beat, annoying pop singer on hook, surprise
> Asshole- This beat is SHIIIiiT. Nice My name Is sample though, also, annoying female singer on hook again,
>Monster- do i need to say anything?
>Stronger Than I was- you guys are rocking with this?
>Brainless is alright
>Evil Twin is alright, trash beat though
if I forgot others they were too bad to remember, also, i hate how this is when he started faking the tone of his voice to sound younger it sounds fucking retarded

>t. 16 year old

TES>SSLP>MMLP>ENCORE>RELAPSE>everything else

>Everything

>getting this angry over female singers
Nigga, do you even hip hop?

First off its nigger, you're not black, secondly, no i call out hypocritical bullshit, you judge an artist based on what they stand for and the outlines they've created for themselves, so if you go for years bashing pop stars and then they appear on your album every second track, yeah it's annoying, but that's only a minor stain on that piece of shit album

I listened to Relapse last night for the first time in a long ass time (I used to think it was trash) but man, there's only We Made You that sucks. Everything else is really good, especially compared to Recovery.

>so if you go for years bashing pop stars
He only bashed the manufactured shit like boybands, people who talked about him like Christina or where it was just too funny not to do like MJ. Eminem had female singers since SSLP and one of his best tracks like Drug Ballad got a Dina Rae hook. Are you too young to remember the whole track 13 thing?

Lol whoa you really checkmated me there, no i know that, but are you seriously comparing one featured female singer on an entire album who didn't even have a full hook to a female singer singing hooks left and right over pop beats?

Give Encore a relisten, seriously, start to finish if you get the chance

>ne featured female singer on an entire album
There were two on MMLP. On TES he probably had about as many rock samples as MMLP2 too. There were more singer hooks later in his career but as long it fits to the track, who cares? It made sense on Bad Guy, Survival, Legacy, Asshole and works great on Beautiful Pain.

The Monster is the only pure pop track on the album. As shit as Stronger Than I Was was, it's closer to his weirder tracks like Hailies Song.

Can't wait till he releases
Revive-L 2: More L's so than i can appreciate Revive-L

Two on MMLP? where? Drug Ballad? that was it. and that wasn't a fucking hook!? Lol, and where an I complaining about Rock samples? I like them when they're used right and TES was a great example of that, you're seriously not comparing Rhyme or Reason or Berzerk to Sing For The Moment or Till I Collapse are you? and i told you twice now, the pre-packaged pop hooks we're only a Minor Stain compared to the other problems, how people can listen to that project start to finish and still think its better than Relapse or Encore I genuinely envy you're ignorance

just realized you compared Stronger Than I Was to Hailies Song, why did i bother arguing with you

should've just released Relapse 2

>Two on MMLP? where? Drug Ballad? that was it.
Come on, think. It's easy. What other female hook from a credited female artist could there be on MMLP?

>you compared Stronger Than I Was to Hailies Song
As in the type of a track. Obviously quality-wise they are dimensions apart.

>Rhyme or Reason or Berzerk to Sing For The Moment or Till I Collapse
The last two being great tracks doesn't make the first two bad. The sampling was flawless on either, it's just his lyrics on TES were way better.

>compared to the other problems
Well, you sure gave that shit a lot attention. I agree about Bad Guy (that shit is so fucking overrated) and Asshole beat is ... well, not very interesting. Though Legacy beat is fine and Evil Twin production is perfect. It's minimalist and the instrumental itself sounds lame but in combination with his voice it works fucking well. So Much Better isn't great production but it's catchy enough. I've seen 50 year old co workers who don't give a shit about hip hop rocking to it in their cars. It does what it's supposed to do.

What about the greatness of Groundhog Day, oldschool vibes of Don't Front or the entire feel of Wicked Ways?

>still think its better than Relapse or Encore
Encore is Recovery/Revival tier, and has no place near Relapse or MMLP2.
Relapse got better flows and rhyme schemes, and most of production but content-wise it's pretty limited. And the accents are just too much over 22 tracks. It'd be a GOAT album if he threw couple normal sounding tracks from Recovery into it. Hell, Em should've skipped Recovery and the Relapse 2 plans and just work a bit longer to make Relapse a double album.

Okay touche on the Stan thing, I always skip that track I completely forgot, that wasn't a new feature though that was a sample, and I genuinely unironically believe Encore to be better than his last 3 albums, if you listen to it for entertainment and stupid fun instead of serious lyrical ability content it has more replay value than anything he's recently released only genuinely bad tracks are My 1st Single, Big Weenie and Rain Man and even they have entertainment value but id still take:
Evil Deeds, Never Enough, Yellowbrick Road, Mosh, Toy Soldiers, Puke, Spend Some Time, Mockingbird, Crazy In Love, One Shot Two Shot, Encore, We as Anericans, Love You More, Ricky Ticky Toc, over MMLP2 any day, but that's just me i guess, also: you just said the best tracks off MMLP2 were the deluxe ones?? With Encore they can be included because the tracks actually came with the album bit with MMLP2 they did not

Eminem does whatever the illuminati tells him to do. This album was specifically made so that his aging fans grow up and buy mortgages and life insurance. Next thing that happens is he disappears and is back for the reunion tour which you'll go to when you're in your forties.

>boo hoo I'm such a legend that it's hard to live up to my fame.
>did I mention I'm a white artist in a predominantly black genre?

What are you talking about? he's privileged to be a white rapper? Lol its funny how once it was laughed at but now there's people genuinely saying whites have an advantage in hip hop including em himself now, fucking pathetic

I didn't imply that in any way. I'm just saying he mentions it a lot.

> if you listen to it for entertainment and stupid fun instead of serious lyrical ability content it has more replay value than anything he's recently released
The thing is, he can do both, so him mostly neglecting one side of it on an entire album just feels off. Besides, the production on Encore is one of his weakest and it just doesn't tie into the theme that well. Shit could've been a fantastic follow up to TES, instead we got one half that sounds about right and one that would be better on a wacky mixtape. It's just all over the place. Even Recovery and Revival are thematically much more cohesive.

Also yeah, Rain Man and My 1st Single are pretty entertaining for sure but Big Weenie makes Fack look good. It's easy one of his worst ever tracks.

>MMLP2 they did not
Well, depending on how you bought it. Though the way it was handled was fucking retarded for sure.

It's bit of both. You might get laughed at first but at the same time, you have a much bigger reach and closer connection to your main audience. Besides, obviously you stand out, at least pre Eminem. Which then adds the downside that their rich white parents get mad at you. Etc, etc, etc.
And obviously you get shafted when it comes to top lists, as he himself said:

>They keep on sayin' the same rappers are the best
>Jay-Z and Kanye West, maybe they're just tryna distract it
>From the fact that I'm comin' back
>Or maybe it's cause I ain't black, maybe it's because of that
>Maybe it's because I'm the highest sellin' artist in rap
>While I'm sittin' back in my office jackin' off to my plaques

I think the production on Encore is great asides from My 1st Single and Crazy In Love, it has some of my favourite beats on any Em project, but i do agree its a shame he dropped the ball on what could have been a great follow up to TES. The theme was great but he didn't execute it right at all, the whole killing the audience, killing yourself, ending his career thing was brilliant and the album art and inlays and all that was probably the best he's ever had but the goofiness tarnished it, but i like the dark, devilish, like beats that pop up throughout the album, i love the production, Evil Deeds, Ass Like That, Encore, Puke, Rain Man, Big Weenie, Spend Some Time, great

>The theme was great but he didn't execute it right at all
Yeah, just thinking of "what could've been" is sad, for me the disconnect between promise/expectation and the final product is what pulls the album so deep down. It tries to be A but turned out B ... with shades of A. Like someone mixed red wine with energy drinks.

Take Recovery, not great by any means but it promises to be about a guy who got of drugs to start living normal again and executes just that. MMLP2 delivers the promise of being a follow up and a modern re-imagining not too bad too.

When it comes to production, there are some highlights you mentioned but they all sound pretty similar (sans Ass Like That) as if done in a single session. I do like the dark feel too but on Relapse there is a way, way better mix of that, and even darker ones and really fun, airy stuff like Hello or Crack A Bottle. MMLP2 has a similar issue with sounding a bit too similar to be fair.

Also while Crazy In Love production is nothing special, I find it works pretty nice with his voice and content. Only the sample feels off.

>Brainless is alright but Rhyme or Reason isnt

>actually giving a shit about Eminem at all
Being an edgy suburban white kid always seemed strange to me. I guess you're probably an adult now though.

is it just me or is eminem getting better looking as he gets older? hes got a eastwood rugged look going now

"Being an edgy suburban white kid" coming from a suburban white kid lmao if saying nigger is edgy to you then thats on you, im not afraid if words or ashamed of who i am, can you say the same?

>tell Eminem we want the old Shady back
>he brings the old Shady back
>wtf bro, you're too old for that, it's time for you to grow up

what part of any album he released in the past 8 years was "old slim shady"" to you? why cant he just be like 2002-7 Eminem, you weren't trying to make your voice sound young or relive your glory days you were rapping and rapping good plain and simple

MMLP2 was his throwback album and nobody liked it

baka. What do you fucks see in MMLP2?? how can you listen to MMLP and then MMLP2 and think "durr yeah that sounds like a sequel" baka, it got shit on because it had shit beats, shit hooks, and shit bars

Just better clothing style. Clothes maketh the man, kids.

Given Em's reach, it wouldn't be too shocking if some of the fans had a similar upbringing.

No good artist has intentionally made a shit album
provd me wrong (hint: you can't)

It is a MODERN sequel.

Bad Guy is obvious.
So Much Better is probably related to Kill You.
Rhyme Or Reason - Who Knew/I'm Back
Survival - The Way I Am
Asshole - The Real Slim Shady
Rap God - MM and I'm Back
Brainless - probably Remember Me
The Monster - unironically Drug Ballad
Love Game - Bitch Please II with bits of Kim
Headlight - Kim (well, kinda. One is love song for Kim, other apology for mommy, basically family stuff tracks)
Evil Twin - obviously Criminal with bits of Under The Influence and Amityville

Sorry dude its trash, "modern" is an excuse for wack apparently, and it sounded 5 years dated when it first cane out lol, they're non comparable, especially in Rap God when he says: on the the mathers lp 1 where i said id take seven kids from colombine stand em all in a line.... see if i get away with it now... blah blah, DUDE you didn't even finish the line lmao how can you act like you're being this badass when you're not even finishing the line because you're SCARED, it was wack, i don't wanna listen to boring dated/ pop production, with pre packaged pop hooks, and cringeworthy bars sorry. >at the window like i reached my full potential; I peaked
Lmfao

>Ill never the the L word again: L-le-lesbiiAAaaAANNnnn eghhgh
baka lol

>i-imm s-stronger den I WASssssS

>DUDE you didn't even finish the line lmao how can you act like you're being this badass when you're not even finishing the line
Why would he finish something we already know? It's a reference. There are tons of 4D references across tracks, whether
>So satanic, K-Mart chains panic
>‘Cause they can't even spin back the curse words
>‘Cause they're worse when they're reversed, motherfucker
>(Rape your mother! Kill your parents!)
to Kill You, or the Criminal > Bad Guy/Parking Lot Skit > Rhyme Or Reason continuation. So Far referencing Real Slim Shady and I'm Back lyrics, etc etc etc
Like it or not, the shit is an obvious sequel.

The humor isn't as good but there are some gems like:
>You're gon' die a ball licker, I've been diabolical
or
>Then screamed "ICP in this bitch! How do fuckin' magnets work?"
>‘Cause you're attractive, but we ain't attractable
or
>Since N.W.A was blaring through my car windows
>Leaning on the horn, screaming "Fuck the police!" like cop porn

>mommmy i cringE when Dat Song Come on Da RAdiO :(

those are your definition of good bars?
and i get he referenced mmlp so what? and why say "see if i get away with it now" as if he actually finished the line? all he said was hes gonna hes gonna hand kids from colombine guns, that wasn't the end of the line, if he had of said and thats a whoke school of bullies shot up all at one time than yeah id appreciate it but he doesn't because he knows it will still get him in hot water, he censored rape on his new album ffs abd went out of his way to not say faggot so why is this surprising to you

>he doesn't because he knows it will still get him in hot water
He referenced the Aurora shooting on the same album. Em needs to do more than talk about a 20 year old school shooting in times when it's a yearly event to get into hot water. Finishing the line wouldn't work into the rhyme scheme, finishing it with "see if I can get away with it now" and going on, is much more elegant, since everyone knows what he's talking about either way.

> he censored rape on his new album
And made an entire track about murdering females and one about stalking one. Censorship on a track titled Offended is a fucking joke.

>went out of his way to not say faggot
A middle aged man still making jokes about fags wouldn't work too well.

What if Em tried some really experimental shit?

He should drop his equivalent of Yeezus.

my point is that these are conscious decisions, i miss when he actually said things worth censoring like on devils night

And all the decisions make sense. He said the stuff he said during 1999-2001 times because it was bound to get a reaction and shock. He went back to it in 2009 and that shit was nothing special. Times change and with them the public opinion of what's acceptable and what is a taboo. In times when the president brags about rape and compares nazis to normal people, outdoing it with a joke about faggots, school shootings or rape won't work. Obviously some retard will bitch about him using retards in WoW but the general population is used to the shit Em said during his most raw times.

"in times where the president brags about rape and compares nazis to nornal people"
oh god, im out of here, signing out, going home, later, goodbye, you can't argue with this level of overdramatic stupidity, goodnight im out, at least i know why you like MMLO2 though, you're a fucking tool

The delivery of the "rADIHOOO" in that song is atrocious, and I like that song.