It's time for a rational discussion on gun control, Sup Forums

It's time for a rational discussion on gun control, Sup Forums.

Why do you need an AR15?

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en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
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>rational
>need
SHALL

You do not need an AR15 for personal defense.

Nor do you need it for hunting or sport.

I'd be happy with just a pistol for self-protection. I don't think that the waging war on the government is a legitimate argument.

To kill Muslims

Because the government has no right to ban them

You do not need an AR15 any more than you need a personal nuclear bomb.

It's not the Bill of Needs.

Now fuck off.

Every thread I find.

>Why do you need an AR15?

Because I want to KILL KILL KILL EVERYONE

There were no automatic rifles when this was written. A Glock is more powerful than the guns of that era. Thanks.

>You do not need an AR15 for personal defense.
>you do not need pepper spray for self defense
>you do not need knives for self defense
>you do not need anything dangerous for self defense
>inb4 you dont need fists for self defense
>govt ban on martial arts

>need
>need
NOT

AR15 is great for nigger riots

No mass shooter or home invasion has ever been stopped by an AR15.

That is a job for pistols and shotguns.

>Why do you need an AR15
Why are you hating on Armalite? Are you some kind of Ruger or H&K shill?

>job
BE

cuz i fucking want one.
got a M16A2 upper today because liberals are scared of blaCK GUNS.

gunsandammo.com/rifles/ar-15/new-york-student-uses-ar-15-to-stop-home-invasion/

Our government gives weapons to hostile nations, yet they don't want Americans to be Armed, seems kind of fishy.
breitbart.com/big-government/2015/11/30/benghazi-commission-obama-admin-gun-running-scheme-armed-islamic-state/

2nd amendment is not for those purposes. If you don't know why it exists you are not worth talking to.

>gunsandammo.com/

Clearly unbiased.

>A Glock is more powerful than the guns of that era
Good. We'll need glocks to fight the islamic threat.

Then you deserve to wallow in your mediocrity.

I need both.

So? Are we all supposed to lay down and cry because technology changes? No, you get your weapon and you do as you please with it.

The real reason the government wants to ban guns is because they fear for a citizens revolt. End of discussion.

>Clearly unbiased.
>Facts aren't real

Why do you need to be a faggot?

>da gubmint wants to kill meh!

So much for rational discussion, sigh.

>need
OPINION DISCARDED

Get out

for pieces of shit like you

>governments have never killed anyone hurr durr
dumb faggot fuck. you and op suicide pact now

>Non americans talking about american politics

>So much for rational discussion,

>gun owners
>rational

These faggots take Alex fucking mass murder pills Jones seriously ever since Trump.

#NotAllAR15s

>burger can't handle his country is a fucking joke to the world.

>da gubmint wants to kill meh!
Strawman. I've never made this argument.

>Why does any civilian need an assault rifle? What possible use could it have?

A semi-automatic rifle, like the AR-15, is an ideal firearm in a fight against violent, organized groups, especially government tyranny. There's a reason it's called the 21st century musket.

>That's ridiculous. We live in a liberal democracy of laws. We ARE the government, and your fear of tyranny is completely unfounded

Ignoring the genocides and crimes of other governments, deranged spree killers like those in the news recently have nothing on Uncle Sam.

Ludlow Massacre: 19 killed
Columbine Mine: 6 machine gunned down
Haymarket Affair: 11
Hanapepe: 20
Lattimer: 19
Bay View: 7
Ponce: 19
Brazos River: 26
Bloody Island: 60 - 100
Harney: 86
Mountain Meadows: 100 - 140
Bad Axe: 150
Colorado River: 140
Sacramento River: 120 - 200
Bridge Gulch: 150
Bear River: 280
Sand Creek: 160
Marias: 173
Wounded Knee: 250

That's just a sample of massacres committed against often unarmed non-soldiers, men, women, and children, by the government, not including any of the many killings from the Civil War. Then on top of that you have countless massacres from other things like labor disputes, lynchings, or race or religious riots. The United States is a bloody country, it always has been and it probably always will be. Shit hits the fan more often than many of us would like to admit, and when that happens you'll want an AR-15 and probably some buddies with them too.

You were alluding to it.

not an argument

citation needed.

Because police are not here to protect you.
en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_v._District_of_Columbia
If you're too lazy to read this, then you're not worth debating.

>America is a bunch of badly organised colonies constantly attacked by Injuns and Frenchmen
>the Founding Fathers correctly assume that having a gun on you would be handy
>America eliminated all threats and reaches its Manifest Destiny
>somehow still guns
>some states vote to change this status
>chin wobbling intensifies

I don't understand Americans
guns are toys by now

Because as a human of sound mind and body in a free nation, I will not be denied the right to purchase a tool of self-defense. If I commit a crime, charge me for that, but not for the right to access a tool as a toolmaker.

Honestly we should ban fists and hammers because emote people are killed by those than rifles

more* ,Damn phone

Because its all thats i have left of my forefathers country and i shall not yield it. Because anyone who isnt a liberal can make one regardless of ANY man-crafted law.
everydaynodaysoff.com/2013/04/08/backyard-gun-shops-in-the-philippines/

>No home invasion has ever been stopped by an AR15.
citation FUCKING needed

Any kind of superiority you might have is for reasons totally separate from you gun nuts.

>government tyranny

what
how would you fight against it, they have tanks and airstrikes
you can't even shoot a police officer

Ask a soldier why he doesn't just use a pistol, and you'll have my answer.

You can't disarm a militia without taking away citizen's rights.

If you want to ban immigrants from owning firearms, then go for it. But US citizens were guaranteed these rights by the founding fathers.

If you dont like it, then move to Canada.

I will get one purely because you don't want me to have one, OP.

Leftist tears are a great thing, my upcoming purchase will bring many keks to me.

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Only cringe worthy beta cucks want that. They somehow wants to feel superior but doesnt realize they are being very edgy. They say
>Muh defence
but keep it locked and stored inside their house. Kek

Why do blacks need to sit at the front of the bus?

BE

>rational
>first argument is "need"
kek
nice job making a shit tier bait thread

>need

show me a bill of needs faggot.

I want an AR15 because I like them. I have never and will never go on a shooting spree.

Try to justify taking away from me what I like when it's harmless in my hands. Go ahead. Protip: you can't.

We really don't give a fuck if the world understands us or not. I just wish we could eject faggots like OP with a circus cannon.

There are always methods of guerrilla warfare, but just as a matter of principle it's better to put up a fight and defend yourself instead of letting you and your loved ones die on your knees as you beg for your life.

I want my own Davy Crockett...

Guns are inanimate objects, they're not Soul Edge; they don't possess their wielder.

And how are you able to perpetrate mass killings with martial arts? Guns only require a pull on the trigger to kill.

Not an ARGUMENT.

until the cucks are willing to come and take, they cannot have

it's irresponsible and led to what Poland is today

Poles sperged out against any "opression", be it Prussian, Russian, Austrian or later Nazi German

in effect we're a crippled nation of PTSD-ridden survivors who will never amount to anything

>Because as a human of sound mind and body in a free nation,

Uh that's super but I want to go to the movies without dying.

what's wrong with it?

...

youtube.com/watch?v=4r442C0zyEM

Then go, it won't happen.

Your chances of dying in a movie theater shooting are probably less than winning the lottery.

They go hand in hand, my naked wrestling friend.

The freedoms of the nation, and the looming threat of armed rebellion to protect those freedoms is what keeps this amazing mess together. What you may not understand, in your little two-thousand years irrelevant nation, is that the United States has always existed at the edge of social upheaval.

Our nation has stayed roughly the way it started because as soon as the people start shooting, the whole house of cards will come down.

Tanks and planes matter for nothing when the people keeping the whole system running decide they don't like their friends and neighbors being bombed.

And you , see above.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

It's irresponsible to defend yourself from a government (or lynch mob) that's trying to kill you? Do you feel no sense of duty to protect yourself or your people from enemies?

really makes you think....

no, duty is a spook

my physical survival can be achieved without any hurr glorious last stands

America has the most tyrannical government in it's history. People don't buy assault rifles to protect the integrity of their country, most gun owners are extreme pussies. They buy them to overcompensate and stroke their ego like this faggot: t. expat

>Why do you need an AR15?
>self defence
>protection against invasion
>protection against tyranny

if you know something about guns you will understand why the ar-15 is one of the few guns that fill all 3 roles

Fair enough, if you're ok with that. Hopefully neither of us will be put in a situation to test it, but if it does happen I don't choose to lay down and accept it.

you don't get to choose, senpai

Why do we need anything
Shouldn't all houses be the same
Clothes too
All food, the same
Why different color cars, who needs a car that can exceed 65
Why a house larger than the space you take up
Who needs anything
Owning a firearm is a right, not a privilege
A right given to us, not by the government but an inalienable right given by our Creator
Where is the outrage over automobile deaths, 3 times the number of firearm related killings, we should ban all transportation first
2/3 of all gun deaths are suicide, not murder
Most firearm killings are blacks killing blacks
Let's ban guns, then only the police, military and government will have guns, and that has always worked out well if history is looked at

It is about the right, not the need.

>t. faggot
>t. don't come back
>t. projecting

>t. expat

wut

I get to choose to wield a gun or not

Really our forefathers recognized the need for citizens to be armed to prevent governments "as we all know are full of thieves and outright lunatics" from executing their power arbitrarily, judging by how large our government is and how recklessly dangerous it is when it comes to foreign affairs, aka many western governments support of Jihad and killing in Syria. I'd say the threat of tyranny is high, especially with all of the Socialist control freaks about aswell, i fear they are going to make a grab for power which could thrust us into civil war.

>you have to be 18 to buy a fucking stick
>and since I am not

MODS MODS MODS

rip in peace

pointless in the ultimate outcome

with a gun you're a potential target in any realistic battle scenario

Don't need a reason.

Everything is legal until there is a good reason to prohibit it. And since it's in the constitution, it better be damn good reason.

I don't have to prove that I "need" it. I was born with the Right to keep and bear arms. The Constitution enshrines this Rights... it does not "grant" them to me, it recognizes that I have them. And it says point blank in the Declaration of Independence that I am obligated to remove any Government that attempt to take my Rights from me.

I will die before I give up my weapons. Period. The trouble is, no one on the Left believes this is true. They think this is just empty talk. They have no moral center, no principals... they cannot understand that another person may have lines that they simply will not cross. Once we are disarmed, all other Rights are meaningless, because we will have no ability to resist tyranny.

I live in AZ. I've never had a break in because once there is a break in in a neighbor's house: hoodlums drop dead. I am safer from the collective freedom to own sick weaponry. Every criminal has to think twice before breaking in.
What would happen in a revolt against tyrannical govt (thought you're probs too much of a loyalist cuck/pussy to entertain), the guns symbolically would be enough to turn enough people WITHIN the govt against the tyranny they'd be embarking on. When there is a revolt, even the enforcers wake up against the tyranny. Such has happened in the Russian Revolution with Soviet Dissension. Troops en masse disobeyed orders to stand by their protesting people. When the overwhelming majority of people in the military are right wing, who do you think is going to side with who?

Good one, I'm convinced. Go to bed NEET faggot.

Just clarifying I'm not a Swiss citizen and follow their gun laws (because I for some reason expected legitimate discussion l o l)

I need it because people like you want to take away all of our rights everytime the news tries to make you sad

>how would you fight against it, they have tanks and airstrikes

Because, electrode, over half of the military AND their tanks, drones, helicopters, planes, warships, etc. will outright refuse to kill their countrymen. Unlike your slavshit "nation"

> the KKKORAN

There's no problem with owning an AR15.
Just as long as the people owning that AR15 aren't mental.
There's nothing wrong with owning guns, there just needs to be better systems in place to make sure that the right people can own these guns.
I know Ben Shaprio isn't exactly the Sup Forums posterboy anymore but I agree with his idea of having criteria to differentiate between responsible and irresponsible people.

Nope they don't understand it
>they already "gave up" their free speech rights

That's if you intend to act as a civilian during local armed conflict.

But since some of us aren't faggots who run at the first sign of danger, we have a need for the best arms we can afford.

>t. expat

roleplaying as an American. pathetic medpack