/trek/

Here we discuss everything that is /trek/.
Also why is wesley such a faggot.
He literally throws away his career because he saw a vision of his dead dad telling him to when he was tripping on indian weed.

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Did anyone give a shit about this guy? The reveal that he was Kirk's son felt so weak, especially after Spock's death.

I'm sure he isn't kirk's only child.

Enterprise is best trek.

Period.

Big TOS fan here, watched every episode of the original series at least twice, seen all of TAS and enjoyed most of the films. I'm 6 episodes in to TNG and it just feels like a porn parody, except with all of the fucking cut out.

For example, the episode that's a rip-off of The Naked Time. We already know what's happening and the solution, so there's no tension. Instead the time is filled up with the security officer getting drunk and fucking the android and Picard wanting to fuck the redhead milf. I've heard it gets better around season 3, but that's still around 50 episodes you have to sit through before something gets good.

It gets better around season 3. You should watch the documentary "Chaos on the Bridge" - it explains why of the first two seasons of TNG are shit.

the first season is nearly ruined by this fucking piece of shit. It does pick up the pace though starting season 2.
Same thing with DS9 and VOY t.b.h. first two seasons are at least a bit off.

First for based Kurn

You can skip most of seasons 1 and 2 and you won't miss anything worthwhile.

Writer's strike, and reusing cut TOS plotlines.

You could always skip the bad episodes. Go watch the one where they measure Data's manhood, or the one where 01010010 01101001 01101011 01100101 01110010 00100000 01100111 01100101 01110100 01110011 00100000 01100001 00100000 01101000 01101111 01101100 01101111 01100111 01110010 01100001 01110000 01101001 01100011 00100000 01110111 01100001 01101001 01100110 01110101.

stay strong, even season one has some pretty good episodes, and it will be worth it later on

Does anyone have the TNG watchlist?

>Picard wanting to fuck the redhead milf
It never happens. They never hook up. Status quo is sacred in TNG. Nothing can ever change.

I'm inclined to believe you.

I started watching Enterprise just recently, I'm on episode 15 now. How is this show so good? Everything about it just seems to work.
>great ship design
>great episodes
>every crew member is 8+/10 in terms of likability
>amazing chemistry between crew members
>both main females are 8+/10 in terms of looks
>first Trek since ToS to not have a Wesley-tier character

Also, this is the only Trek to actually start off in it's groove. Every other series including ToS took at least a few episodes to find it's formula. I'm loving Enterprise right now. Does it stay this good throughout?

This hurts the most.
Them ending up together could have been good.

Be prepared for edgy contrarian responses like
>The Inner Light and Darmok are overrated trash!
>The Neutral Zone and The Royale are the best episodes of the series!
>Brannon Braga is the GOAT writer!

>Measure of a Man
>Not worthwhile

Its good overall and the old starfleet is well done.

Oh, you forgot that I exist? That's alright, the writers forgot too.

>most
Learn to read.

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here's the full set
but don't treat it too seriously

Except Yarr dying

>Everyone who doesn't agree with me is choosing the opposite opinion to me on purpose
Your charts are still terrible

What's wrong with Mayweather? Seems like a pretty good fit so far.

Thank you user.

I love you.

He's a bit boring.

>Except Yarr dying
That didn't come from the writers.

If the actress had been willing to stay then Yar would have stayed in the same place and continued doing absolutely nothing for 6 more years.

I have a mate who refers to him as "disapointment" because the first ever episode he watched of Enterprise was In a Mirror Darkly and he assumed that regular Mayweather would also be a badass, just also a good guy

It only gets better, season 3 and 4 are the high points of the show.

Favorite Star Trek villain?

The writers forget that he exists. Same with Hoshi and Reed.

>disagree with ~5 ratings out of 178
>The whole thing is terrible!
Wew.

That's alright. Sulu and Chekov were pretty bland too, but it never hurt ToS.

Gul Dukat
>inb4 he's not a villain

"Commander, tell me about your sexual organs."

watching DS9 for the first time, very comfy, but I can't work out if Sisko's actor is awful or brilliant.

>iOS spammer again
Seeing your posts is like discovering that Santa Claus isn't real.

You took a classic, beloved meme and you ruined it.

His acting wasn't interesting either. I think it was miscast. I don't even remember what he did on the show.

>Rick Berman’s first choice for the role of Sisko was actor Avery Brooks. The two had met many years earlier when the then-struggling young actor rented a room in Berman’s family apartment, and Brooks’ often terrifying and deranged antics during the three months he lived there left a lasting impression on the executive. Years later, Berman remembered the volatile actor and knew that he was the only possible man who could play the mad Sisko, and he sent Brooks a copy of the script. “Between three and four in the morning, the phone rang,” Berman recalled. “It took me at least a couple of minutes before I realized who was the source of this inarticulate screaming. And after an hour of this, it dawned on me that he found it the most fascinating script and wanted to be The Emissary.”

>From the beginning of the production on the pilot episode, writer Michael Piller and Brooks argued about the proper manner to portray Sisko. Brooks wanted to play a “wild, ranting madman”, but Piller wanted something “quieter, more menacing”. In order to get the performance he desired, before each shot director David Carson would deliberately infuriate him. After waiting for the hot-tempered actor’s inevitable tantrum to “burn itself out”, Carson would then roll the camera.

>Even the director wasn’t safe from his twisted vision. “One time I yelled ‘cut’ and he turned to me and said 'What if someone just stood in the middle of the Promenade and yelled cut? Maybe the Ferengi in suits would forget their trained routine of acquiring’ My jaw hit the floor and it never really came back up. That’s when I thought, is he getting in character to play Sisko, or is Sisko something that’s been in him all along?”

>“Sometimes I would go to look into the cameras, and I noticed he had put something in the lens. It was stuff like 'What if cameras were phasers? Would you be a mass murderer?’ and 'Lights. Camera. EDDINGTON!.’ I had to ask him to stop because I was getting too scared to direct.”

Gul Dukat did nothin wr--

He didn't do anything because the writers never gave him anything to do. The writers simply... gave up.

...

I would also say Dukat. He was incredibly well written and the best example of gray-area morality until the ruined him in the final two seasons by making him the 'CUH-RAZY EVUL Gul Dukat.' If they had kept him the same throughout series, I truly believe he would have gone down as one of the most sympathetic villains in television history.

>go to see a late showing of Star Trek Beyond alone because only friend that likes Trek is too ill to go
>wear a homemade V'ger costume because fuck it
>sitting alone before the movie starts
>three manic pixie dreamgirls that look like solid 7/10 Dabo Girls come in wearing Klingon, Romulan and the salamander from Threshold costumes, homemade like mine
>the lights are still up so they see, point, come sit next to me and start talking to me
>spaghetti is inching its way out of pockets
>manage to keep cool and appear normal
>make funny comments during movie, making the girls laugh
>go out for food with the girls after, getting "fuck me" vibes from 2 of them
>all 3 give me their numbers and say we should hang out, watch Blood of Tiberius: A Star Trek Fan Production, go out for drinks
>wait 2 days, call cutest girl
>number is not valid
>call 2nd cutest girl
>number is not valid
>call 3rd girl
>it's a Domino's
But why? They didn't even get a free meal out of me or anything because they firmly insisted on paying for their own food. And they never even went off on their own to devise a plan to give me fake numbers. Why did they even offer their numbers and suggest we hang out just to give me fake numbers?

Will I die alone?

No

Just, no

I watched every Trek show. When Enterprise was announcing I was giddy with excitement. I suffered through that pile of garbage only because of sexy Vulcan broad.

>been on freighters since I was born
yeah pretty cool storyline they gave him

I'm only half-way through Season 1, which is why I said 'so far.'

I've watched ENT in 1 weekend. This is the only thing I remember about him.

Oh well. Like I mentioned in a post above, Sulu and Chekov were pretty bland as well, but it never stopped ToS from being good.

They had some movies to stretch out their chars 2bh. Mayweather won't have this chance.

You did better than I did. I made it to S1E03 before i gave up on ENT. Aside from Phlox, I really disliked it.

DS9>TOS>TNG>VOY>>>ENT

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Ive been using this to go through the franchise it's makes DS9 and TNG better but that's mostly by comparison to voyager. Has any one else tried watching this way?

I think I'll just end up watching the whole thing, honestly. A lot of these ratings for TOS don't match up at all to what I thought, so I'm just gonna have to go over it all with a fine toothed comb. Thanks anyway, senior.

This is neat, but it doesn't include stuff like the animated series

I can't be fucked to type it all out again

>following a list that ends with Voyager
Let me know how that goes for you.

Remember that one time when Enterprise gave birth?

for the few episodes of TNG I had a similar reaction to yours guess a mix of
>the hell is all this
with
>I really wish they toss Wesley out of the airlock
But then I guess they all got better at their job of making ST after a bit of a rough start + I got used to the characters and the different format.

My sides have just ascended to the Q Continuum.

It hasn't been great but that's how it goes chronologically

>He only got the Chief Engineer' job anyway because of the Affirmative Action initiative in the Confederate States
Jesus fucking Christ, I can't breathe

Even worse, it ends with Nemesis.

Just watched Elementary My Dear Data.

Pretty comfy Desu.

>He's a prisoner released from Dartmoor prison today and has spent the day drinking in a gin house

Released today? And managed to get to London in that time and spend all day drinking gin?

Not in Victorian times

Friendly reminder that Dukat did nothing wrong.

Fucking kek.

You sir, are a god.

>Lights. Camera. EDDINGTON!

...

Jobs, when the meme became stale.

Morale Officer Gowron here
I must report that this petaQ was infuriating the crew to no end so I stuffed him inside one of the plasma conduits on deck 12 with some annoying plants that I found in some of the guest quarters. Crisis averted.

Miiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiles, have you seen my Rigellian Exploding Fart Cacti anywhere?

As good as Vic was, I got so fucking tired of seeing him shoehorned into every fucking episode
Siege of AR-558 was the worst
>War-ravaged Starfleet officers waiting for an assault by the Jem'Hadar
>Everybody tense
>Nobody saying a word
>Vic starts playing out of nowhere because 'everybody needed it'

>they cut his scene from the movie

>get plastic surgery to look like a Bajoran so you can fugg the space pope and murder dax

>do it because space satan told you to

>nothing wrong

Come on now

>Picard: The HMS Victory, she's a fine ship

Says the Frenchman about the most famous ship present in the most famous battle of a war where the British dicked the French

>We'll have her ship shape and Bristol fashion
>Geordi: You what?
>Picard: It's an old naval phrase

Yeah, an old British naval phrase. Why was Picard such a cuck? Why didn't they just make him British if he's going to be played by a British bloke and if he's going to nosh off a Britain who fucked over his countrymen?

I loved that episode. I thought that was a clever way to bring Vic in, and plus it did a really nice job of setting up the episode where Nog gets over his PTSD by partying with Vic, which was also great.

I honestly don't see the point or appeal of this character. He appeared out of nowhere, suddenly being the most advanced hologram ever with no word of explanation, he can do almost everything (like hacking into station systems, changing his program), he knows everything, his advice is always good and everyone, every single person ever, likes both him and his songs.
Not that I somehow dislike him or something, he's just ... eh.

Vic poster here

I love Vic. I love the idea of him being a holodeck character who knows he's a hologram just being there to dispense advice.

I also love that he's a ratpack singer. Not a huge fan of the genre, but with him it works

I fully agree though that he got horribly overused.

Friendly reminder that Anjohl Tennan did nothing wrong either.

Basically the same problem they had with Lorne in Angel

He was cool when you saw him 5- times a season and didn't know shit about him

Then he became a full cast member, was in every episode and they ran out of ideas for him so he became a depressed alcoholic who had no lines and just wanted to be alone and drunk off screen

Calling The Neutral Zone and The Royale and fucking Schizoid Man good episodes isn't edgy and contrarian, it's just obviously retarded. I'll admit it makes me mad though, so for those doing it: 7/10

both Neutral Zone and The Royale offered some unique perspective, they were at least a bit memorable. I can see how some may find it good.
Can't remember shit from the Schizoid Man though.

>2 ayy lmao female characters

no thanks

In Generations it is revealed that one of Picard's ancestors fought at the battle

>Be Picards great great great great great great etc grandpappy
>Fight for your country against le filthé Anglaise
> Look over and see the HMS Victory
>It fires on your vessel
>You become mortally wounded
>At least you have kids back home in France to carry on your progeny
> 600 years later your Great to the power of whatever it is Gandson speaks like a fruity English Thespian and waxes lyrical about how beautiful the ship that killed you is, and speaks in reference to the naval traditions of the swine who man it

Being Picard's ancestor is suffering

Currently rewatching Time's Arrow after not having seen it since I was a kid

Suddenly the guy who plays Gul Dukat as a poker player

Very pleasant surprise

>HONKA HONKA NIGGA

Heart of Stone had such a shitty A-plot but the B-plot was so good.

I reached Trials and Tribble-ations. Should I watch the TOS episode first?

How can you not find "The Royale" likable from a strictly entertaining-comedy standpoint? I get saying it's not good but to say it's bad doesn't make any sense and sounds like you need responses because your life is bad or something (not sure).

Yes.

If only because you'll appreciate just how much of a miracle episode it is

Whenever Kira goes full religious nut I want someone to slap her.

>>This is neat, but it doesn't include stuff like the animated series

Probably because the animation was horrendous and it was for children.

it would be like a modern day french person being mad at the gauls being conquered by ceasar, it's ancient history

Gauls weren't a nation state. Or not in the modern sense at least.

France was.

Their last hurrah and they fucking lost it.

Yesteryear fantastic. Although only a few of the episodes were any good, it's still a part of Star Trek. The chronological order guy didn't even include a reason for why it's not there in his explanation.

Why didn't they just use the Defiant to push the comet away from the wormhole?

it would break up

No, I mean literally - physically - push it with the Defiant, not using the tractor beam. All they have to do is just nudge it a few degrees off-course so it misses the wormhole and then never worry about it again.

>There are people who don't think the Ferengi episodes are pure Trekino

>the reveal that he was Kirk's son

it wasn't meant to be a "reveal" you fucking retard, we weren't meant to be shocked. Go back to watching nu-Trek and Star Wars you underage cuckold

Reminder that the Search for Spock had the best soundtrack of any of the movies and the Final Frontier had the best character exploration of any of the movies

id have to see the specifics