Production/Music Making Board

Hello Sup Forums. In celebration of New Year's, I think it's time for some change. Currently there is a problem with the /prod/ threads in Sup Forums because it's simply just a bunch of tripfags arguing over the same shit over and over, and very little help with production actually being given.

I think there should be a /prod/ board, where anons discussed everything related to making music, whether it be gear threads (eg synths and instruments), theory threads, daw discussion, production challenges, self promotion threads (eg Bandcamp) There's a lot of ideas that can be covered.

So with that covered, here are some arguments against a prod board.

>Not enough people or activity
That doesn't stop boards such as 3DCG or PO from flourishing. Not to mention, when the only thread for the topic is a bunch of tripfagging autists, it makes sense why the prod threads would be unappealing
>Not enough topics
See above
>Why can't we just do these threads in Sup Forums?
There's too much shitposting, it would be like comparing Sup Forums to /vg/ (I know, vg is full of trip drama and trannies but it's the best one I can come up with)

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voted yes but it's a long shot my dude

let's be honest, if we made a separate board for production it would just be a bunch of soundcloud dudes posting their links asking for feedback with no real discussion going on.

If we can at least get the votes in the triple digits, I think it could have a chance.

There would be dedicated SoundCloud threads like there are here, and we could make it a rule for there to be only one self promotion thread per board. And there occasionally are production related threads on other boards that are genuinely really cool, like the occasional synth threads on Sup Forums which get hundreds of replies when they happen.

These threads seem to attract more shitposters by the day. I honestly don’t know why you bother making them anymore. Take a look back at the last 5 or 10 threads it’s just 95% shit posting. I know we joke about fucking off back to that place but surly these threads are worse than that place? Nobody wants to talk about prod in these threads. People dump their clyps without giving any feedback to previous clyps.
Just let it die.

Sadly this is how it is, I haven't gotten any good advice or criticism on /prod/ for months now.

You'd be surprised, a prod board could attract real talent. Producers like flylo lurk this board so you never know.

Its possible that most people posting dont really know their own DAWs. Last time i was in a soundcloud thread I recognized multiple FL studio presets.
That said an actual producer board could be really good and we can get a sticky with DAW download links, and have threads over gear advice for specific sounds.

It is sad really. It’s always had its shitposters but you used to be able to at least have discussions about prod stuff with the non shitposters.
I don’t know who flylo is but I doubt he can turn this shit around
Theres a lot of really shit music posted here but that’s ok everyone has to start somewhere, it’s just the pure amount of retardedness here really

the one thoughtful gem a month i get from some blessed user on /prod/ is millennia better than the eternal circle jerks the various subreddits provide

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Stop derailing threads and take this 8 with you

yeah I think a prod board would be really good.

I’ve never been there so I honestly wouldn’t know. That does sound bad though.

Don’t get me wrong though I’d love to come discuss all things /prod/ on a dedicated board but I really can’t see it taking off with the amount of bullshit going on here. Other generals actively flush out the shit and ignore the shit to filter it out. That along with discussing prod would be a good start I think?

wouldn't that just be moving the shitshow from one place to another though?

"/prod/ doesn't get enough content, and the people who post are jerks"

What a perfect solution! Let's create a whole new board, so the post frequency per thread is *even lower*, and the *entire board* is jerks instead of just the /prod/ general thread.

I'm all for a new board so I voted "yes" because I think it'd be cool to have a /guitar/, /synth/, /modular/, /daw/, /soundcloud/, etc general thread, but that's just because I'm being selfish, since music production is my hobby. But realize that the above will be the response from Sup Forums admins/janitors. The reason /po/ and /3dcg/ exist is because they're personal hobbies from moot or old janitors.

I definitely think that there should be a split between the music listening board (this one), and a music production thread, and I'd personally maintain the /modular/ board if it happened. And what I said earlier about the whole board being jerks will be solved eventually as they are split into their respective threads. Overall I just don't think such a thing is possible.

>I definitely think that there should be a split between the music listening board (this one), and a music production thread,
I agree although I don’t think that the main problem we have is the boards being together as such

>and I'd personally maintain the /modular/ board if it happened. And what I said earlier about the whole board being jerks will be solved eventually as they are split into their respective threads.
I think the only way it will get solved is if the anons that come here to talk music production don’t put up with or encourage the shit posting. It works for other threads. Go check out some of the threads on diy they don’t tolerate that shit there.

>Overall I just don't think such a thing is possible.
Anything is possible user

(Me)
To add to this, if we wanted a /prod/ board, I'd highly recommend generalizing the topic to include all musical instruments, so Sup Forums would include only listening recommendations, and the new board (called /prod/, /in/ for instrument, /mus/, or whatever we decide) would include all existing general threads:
/prod/
/gg/
/dj/
(I'm probably missing some)
as well as some new ones
/synth/
/daw/
/modular/
/battlestations/
/drum/
/piano/ or /key/
/composition/
etc

So yes, anything is possible, and we definitely have the categories for it, but it will be a hard bargain.

The amount of glorious digits has already conjured up the meme magic, so now we just need exposure.

>Other generals actively flush out the shit and ignore the shit to filter it out

we both know most generals are literal shit bogs

/prod/ would have been a good text-only board but hiromoot got rid of them

Couldn’t almost all those sub categories just go into one or two categories. Like /prod/ is slow enough to incorporate most of the production side, including DAW the rest could be all under /inst/. I mean every time I try and talk about hardware here which would include synth, drum, modular and keys I’m basically confronted by the software is better argument. Let’s face it it’s litrally 2 anons here that actually use hardware.

dude you're right like half of the spam is just underage fucks posting reaction images. this would be so perfect

My main argument in favor of a prod board would be that it would be FUN. The /prod/ threads are pretty much no fun allowed zones. It would be great having dedicated pastebins for generals which have lots of great information and resources. Lots of the generals on /vg/ for instance, are great. Like the stalker and shoot em up generals. Also, it would be really cool if we could have a wiki similar to the installgentoo wiki, and a sticky similar to the one in /x/ which has a metric fuckton of cool resources.
No it wouldn't have, a lot of the neat ideas that has wouldn't work on a text only board

So how do we recommend this to admins? I feel that OP should do the honors of posting to Sup Forums.org/feedback linking back to this thread, and a few random Tweets wouldn't hurt.

Disagree, /prod/ would need images as much as any other board.

Good point. Although, I think my general thread suggests were a bit overzealous because in reality, threads on an entire /prod/ board would be just as random as Sup Forums. Instead of piping drummers into /drum/ to discuss drums, they'd just create a thread asking a question and that's it. Also, you seem to think that /drum/ and /keys/ would be about MIDI hardware. I meant actual acoustic drums and actual pianos, organs, accordions, harpsichords, etc.

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Pathetic excuses like you don't deserve gets
Patricians like this user are the ones that get gets.

Know your place cretin.

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/prod/ is full of wiggers who have no appreciation of music that isnt trap and know nothing about production.

there's also mentally ill posters that sit there all day winding up anyone who posts a clyp with copypasta troll responses which results in a 100 posts of back n forth between the troll and the upset clyp poster calling the troll an asshole

I rarely ever see real discussion of techniques or music-making philosophy because people with bad taste in everything dominate the thread and create bad vibes, like someone insulting your mom over xbox live vibes, this is caused by wiggerity + underagedness

kek, so true

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A prod board would be great not just for music, but for sound design in general. If you are for instance, in the theatre industry like I am, it would be great for discussing things such as sound cues for software such as qlab...

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>Also, you seem to think that /drum/ and /keys/ would be about MIDI hardware. I meant actual acoustic drums and actual pianos, organs, accordions, harpsichords, etc.
Nope that’s why I said the rest could be grouped under instrument, but this is where it will all start to get a bit confusing if you catagarize it up. That’s why I was suggesting instrument/guitar/prod. should /prod/ ideally be about just production? Would that include the mixing mastering and recording of hardware and real instruments along with soft synths? Either way it’d be good to have a nice slow comfy board for all of those things wether all segregated up or all together.

Found a cool technique for making cool sounds.
>make a simple harsh or slight distorted saw pad
>make a simple chord
>add delay and/or reverb
>convert to audio and throw it in simpler
>pitch it up or down and add some portemento or glide
>have it looping back n forth with some crossfade fade to make the looping smooth
Got pretty decent results from it. Probably an old technique but I just discovered it

why not just make a board on otherchan

Literally who

Hey man don’t tar everyone with the same brush. I don’t even know what trap music is and I can assure you I have much appricaiation of many different types of music. I also ignore the trolls which I’m still surprised that retards here of all places still can’t seem to do. It really isn’t that hard, just fucking ignore them.
Yeah I’d love to shoot the breeze about production techniques, favourite gear, best plugin of the year etc but no one partakes in such things here anymore unfortunately

...by the way user what would you say was your most used sound source/instrument and effect of last year?

faggot

your mom

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Not that user but my favorite instrument of last year was a vocal pad I designed with the sampler. It's not great, but since I'm still learning I thought it was a good start.
There probably is one already but it most likely gets fuck all for traffic.

Everything that has been proposed here is 420s /m/ go there.

>my favorite instrument of last year was a vocal pad I designed with the sampler. It's not great, but since I'm still learning I thought it was a good start.
How does that work user?

Ah, I see what you mean now.
A slow comfy board would be nice, especially if it covered everything from learning/performing musical instruments, to computer music production and maneuvering in the music industry.

It exists, but it's probably 2 posts a day and nobody uses that community anymore. Pretty sure hotwheels is dead, who knows.

Not the user you're responding to, but used piano and Eurorack equally last year. Probably the same this year.

>gets fuck all for traffic
then why would a /prod/ board here be any different?

The fact that Sup Forums's boards actually get traffic outside of the porn boards, unlike 8ch, including the slow boards.

Sup Forums even after 14 years or whatever still gets major traffic. Even this shitty Sup Forums board has 77M posts. 8ch had its fame 3-4 years ago but has decreased rapidly. It is also extremely fragmented with thousands of boards, all slow moving, while Sup Forums has only a few dozen.

repro-1, kontakt 5 and waves-H-eq

Posting aesthetic analog synths to generate interest

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>Sound source:
Gonna go with my rackmount sampler as pretty much everything went through that at some point.


>Effect:
Valhalla vintage verb
Native instruments Replika XT

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literally kill yourself

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I would post and browse that board every single day

And there'd be meetup and jam threads for various cities

the only plugins ive bought are the soundtoys bundle and theyre pretty good

I don't want to meet anyone who posts on this board

youre probably gay and weird anyways

lmao

What the fuck is up with your face you melon headed motherfucker

OP here, I feel like everything that could be covered has been said already. Here is what I sent to the feedback:

Hello there,

Basically, as this thread states, there is a growing desire for a production and music making general board. The /prod/ threads on Sup Forums are a complete joke because of the lack of talent, so a moderated board with various topics would be a healthy addition. To quote from the thread :

"My main argument in favor of a prod board would be that it would be FUN. The /prod/ threads are pretty much no fun allowed zones. It would be great having dedicated pastebins for generals which have lots of great information and resources. Lots of the generals on /vg/ for instance, are great. Like the stalker and shoot em up generals. Also, it would be really cool if we could have a wiki similar to the installgentoo wiki, and a sticky similar to the one in /x/ which has a metric fuckton of cool resources."

" /prod/ board, where anons discussed everything related to making music, whether it be gear threads (eg synths and instruments), theory threads, daw discussion, production challenges, self promotion threads (eg Bandcamp) There's a lot of ideas that can be covered"

There was even a strawpoll which lead to an almost unanimous result highly in favor of the board's creation. Because of other creative boards like 3DCG and PO flourishing on this website, a music production board would fit snugly. Not to mention, a lot of the self promotion threads on Sup Forums could be sent over to the new board, with more moderation so that there is less shit and more actual content being posted.

TL;DR - A music production board is in demand, and there are a lot of neat ideas that could be put in place, and it could help regulate Sup Forums in the process.

Let's hope for the best anons.

Good luck

These numbers should be illegal

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naisu

>/prod/ board
so it can get shitted up with tons of threads about "r8 my clyp, anons"

pointless.

looks like someone knows how to use the catalog

we'd be better off with a /mug/ like the fags from Sup Forums have /vg/

>googled unanimous to see what it meant
hmm