Why are art films always so goddamn boring?

why are art films always so goddamn boring?
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because you're a fucking moron

uh I have an IQ of over 135
most definitely not a moron

>be me 4 years ago
>16 year old fag trying too hard to fit in on Sup Forums
>have pretentious taste is films that I either never watched or pretended to enjoy
>"I'm so le intelligent, cultured, and have refined taste in cinema unlike you"
>fast forward to present
>it hasn't gotten me anything

*an autist moron

kek. I watched this film and it was fucking shit, period.

>posts one of the most accessible art films ever made

your point? still fucking boring

But here's the thing, people actually enjoy those movies. Maybe on Sup Forums people pretend, but those movies you assume I like out of pretension actually bring me a lot of joy. Just because you can't/don't want to sit through them doesn't mean they don't work on an emotional or even intellectual level for other people. The Seventh Seal is hardly boring or hard to understand. It's a fantastic film

You should have at least posted one of the boring ones.

ssshhhhhh, you will get mad the contrarians Sup Forums tards thinking it's kino just because it's old

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ill be on black

You know nothing then, the contrarian opinion would be to dislike it. Now a contrarian would dislike it because it's not artsy or deep enough. The truth is it doesn't have to be inaccessible or hard to find to be good, and you just have shit taste if you dislike it

i found it boring, so i disliked it, period

I unironically agree with OP.
Started watching this movie cause it was in the 1000 list and goddamn is it so fucking boring.
>inb4 dumb muricans can't understand deep muh swedish art
Fuck off faggots you can make "art" without making it boring.

>you just have shit taste if you dislike it
taste is subjective
grow the fuck up

All of those "intellectual" movies that were being made in Europe in the middle of the 20th century are dull pieces of shit that snobs and film students worship because it makes them feel smart and cultured.

That said Bergman is easily the most genuinely talented filmmaker that fits into that category, though I certainly wouldn't call his movies "entertaining"

>taste is subjective
Ahahahahaha good one :-)
Besides, how is this films boring? My non argument aside, it's filled with great characters, interesting dialogue, and an original premise, all things that keep the film driving forwards. It's so short! It doesn't even have time to drag

This thread makes me think most of Sup Forums are children and man children

How the fuck can you find the seventh seal boring? It's one of the most fast moving and "to the point" films i have seen. Things are constantly happening. I truly feel sorry for you if you don't get anything out of this. It's a beatiful and deeply human film

Vargtimmen is GOAT bergman though

boring =/= bad

>All of those "intellectual" movies that were being made in Europe in the middle of the 20th century are dull pieces of shit that snobs and film students worship because it makes them feel smart and cultured
this, this and fucking this

God i hate fucking simpletons

But here's the thing, I have few friends and absolutely zero that are film fans. Who do I stand to impress by pretending to like films? What do I stand to gain by forcing myself to watch films I don't enjoy? I sit by myself and watch the movies I enjoy, and discuss them honestly. I don't pretend anything, and it makes you seem pretty ingnorant to assume otherwise

fuck off, entertainment isn't subjective. quit deluding yourself.

Sup Forums can't read subtitles

>watching old movies just to feel superior on a Tibetan mandala-making IRC channel

Sad!

>entertainment isn't subjective
This is going full retard, I wouldn't expect you to sit through what I do for fun nor could you expect me to do the same.

>How the fuck can you find the seventh seal boring?
I've been numbed by hours of watching Bayhemesque action movies and jerking it to pornography. If I don't see definite action and reaction within the first 20 minutes (or at the very fucking least, an interesting looking shot), I get bored. In a way, I blame the Hollywood movie machine for turning me this way, they market themselves towards my baser pleasures.

I watch everything with subtitles, I'm hard of hearing, faggot.

Who says I watch films for entertainment? I watch them for enjoyment sure, I'm not a pretentious asshole who thinks it's not art if it's easy to watch. But I don't feel the need to be entertained by a film, the director didn't make it to thrill me, he made it to express himself. You can't approach every film the same way

You miss understand: there are things that are enjoyable, and things that's people fool themselves into liking for one reason or another.

Old movies fall into the latter category.

i watched it and dont have the slightest idea what it is about, something about faith i guess.

Exactly! It is sad and I don't do it. I give my honest opinion about films, and sometimes I get called a pleb, sometimes I find actual discussion. But I'm not looking for validation either way

>it's a people use the entirely subjective experiential term "boring" to describe a movie and think it's an argument for why the movie is bad episode

>he hasn't seen The Neon Demon

>the only reason people could like old films is because they're pretending. There's no way they're actually good films, those thousands of people that love it are wrong
So you're just retarded then

I agree with OP. Let's compare it with one of my favorite movies

>Iron Man
>interesting, witty dialogue
>entertaining, human characters with just enough depth
>amazing sets
>great action; not over the top
>state-of-art CGI
>a little bit of romance

>Seventh Seal
>not even in English
>awful, uninteresting, pretentious dialogue: "am I being 2deep4u?"
>one-dimensional characters
>dull sets that look like a third rate theater
>death is just some guy with a black cape and his face painted white
>some stupid metaphor about life and death, and that's it

Only pseuds would dare call Seventh Seal the best movie here, but somehow it's a crime to enjoy capekino

>remember when they put into the short-lived sticky on Sup Forums
>still have fond memories of it as I wasn't exposed to a lot of arthouse
>all the shit eating gen z posters have to say about it is "it was boring"

describe a movie with a non-subjective term

I would watch them more if I had someone to explain and teach me what I should be looking for, instead of just insulting me for not getting it

>The Neon Demon
>art film

...how old are you?

Is there anything more comfy than watching movies in your native tongue? It feels like they're tailored just for you.

What if you actually tried to make your own interpretation. Like, you know, use that peanut brain you have up there to get something out of it even if you don't fully understand the symbolism? Would that really be so very hard for you, user?

I don't like it, the dialogue feels forced. I'm too used to amerifats

I hesitate to make assumptions about any one individual, and you may very well truly enjoy such films. However for those who watch these movies out of curiosity and realize what masturbatory, turgid fare the vast majority of them are, and how self-congratulatory and smug their devotees tend to be, you'll forgive me for not taking your opinions at face value.

It's not about impressing others, it's about feeling superior for being part of the "intellectual elite" who can appreciate "true cinema" or some such nonsense. You may not fall under that category, but a lot of the people who canonize mid-20th century artsy euro movies do, and it's hard not lump all of you together

A film, how highly esteemed it may be, isn't some puzzle you have to solve. Just watch the film and feel what you feel. Don't try to crack any code

Then if you want to, you can take a deeper look. But the most important thing is just to watch many fucking films

Fast-paced, intellectual, symbolic, character-driven, political, action-oriented, aesthetic. There are plenty of ways to use descriptive terms to explain your opinion. No one wants to hear that you found a movie "fun" or "boring" or "good" unless you can explain why that was the case.

Well kek, there's plenty of places for discussion, you're in the wrong place if you want to avoid insults. Truthfully there's nothing really to look for. Sure you could learn to appreciate technical things like lighting or camera movement, but in my opinion, if those were used effectively in the first place, then the film will move you. Just look for films that you honestly enjoy. Know that you don't have to be entertained, but you should be moved emotionally, or provoked intellectually. If a film doesn't do that for you, don't worry about it, find a different avenue. There are sooo many films out there, you're allowed to have your own taste. And chances are, if you couldn't even see the merit of or what there is to enjoy about The seventh Seal, then that taste isn't very developed or experienced. But that's no reason to force yourself to sit through those films. Find a different director or movement or era of film and try again. You'll start to recognize what you personally look for in a movie, and then you can revisit some that you didn't like. You'll either find that you just didn't have the taste for them yet, or they just didn't fit into the type of film that does it for you. Sure there are some things that films do objectively better than others, but ultimately it comes down to what you like in films, and being able to articulate that

these are all subjective perceptions of a movie

>The only criticism people have said so far in this thread is"boring" or "pretentious"

Wow, this place really has been overrun by Sup Forums and GoT normies

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I don't like pseudo intellectual garbage either but this movie is great. The dialogue is decent and the characters are memorable. If you expect a 1957 Swedish movie to be action packed or quick just stop watching movies

Yet the terms do not denote subjective experience, which is why they allow for discussion.

>non-intellectual knows if something is pseudo-intellectual or not
lol

no need to project

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Du är en stor grabb

Can anyone here rec me some good obscure kino?

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wtf I hate /lbg/ now

i blame their lack of a cultural history. theirs is a history of war and alcoholism

(what's are the bright spots? late 19th/early 20th century American literature? a handful or three of great films in the five decades from 1910-1960?

inte obscure men du borde se på offret.

there are so many movies, youll never watch all of them. and even in the category of pseudo intellectual art house flicks there are so many movies. just watch them, some you will like and understand instantly, some you will not, some you will remember later and realize something new about them, and some you will not care about ever. but who cares, if you ever meet someone who really likes a movie you dont get at all he will probably be glad to explain it to you and maybe then you realize you got it all along but it just didnt interest you.

i get you want to dive deeper into film, but i recommend you visit the letterboxd general threads and look at how many delusional, angry and pseudo intellectual people there are. just looking at these peoples "favourite" movies makes you wonder if they even understand the concept of "favourite". do you really want to get accepted by these faggots?

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comfy > tryhard

That's a comfy pic. What are some equal films to it?

there are some comfy as fuck """""art"""" films tho

Sans Soleil comes to mind, and anything by Hou Hsiao-hsien (or pretty much anything Taiwanese for that matter)

how do you know those movies aren't their actual favorites? you sound like an embryo

Are you joking? TSS is not only Bergman's most to the point movie, it is also ultra simple. There are like 5 characters. They are alive at the beginning and then Death comes and at the end most of them are dead and some of them aren't. That's the whole movie, it's not subtle or esoteric in any way. Plus it's got Max Von Sydow just killing his performance. If you actually think what you posted and aren't just trolling then I genuinely think film isn't for you.

>boring

Have you tried thinking.

True artistic movies should be watched in full then rewatched pausing when needed to think. Which should be every 5-10 minutes. These are thesis.

A lot of these old movies are only good the day after when you have thought about them somewhat.

Seventh Seal isn't that slow though, the slowest part is near the end but until then it's pretty entertaining.

It's not boring but it's not exciting enough, often too slow for our times, too thought provoking and exhausting. Difficult to process.
I still enjoy it a lot and love how they "stick" having real impact on me.
Coffee and other similar drugs are a protip.

there were some smoking hot chicks in that movie

>Age of Ultron is my favorite movie

There are actually people like this?

which means you were trully a plebeian retard from the get-go, who was just trying to conform

Harriet Andersson is best Bergman grill

death had some 10/10 quips in that movie desu senpai

she wasn't in SS. I looked them up, the hot ones are Bibi Andersson, Gunnel Lindblom and Inga Gill

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>>entertaining, human characters with just enough depth
>entertaining, human
>entertaining
>human
>marvel

>Gunnel Lindblom in The Silence

what is Swedish for "muh dick"?

clandestine childhood
solo con tu pareja
pasolini's the decameron
not really obscure but Iv never seen any of those mentioned on this board

But they said fake it til you make it!

modern day Seventh Seal remake

>set in California
>Death is some CGI monstrosity
>they play checkers on an iPad, Americans don't understand what chess is
>"oh yeah?! "CHECK" THIS *pulls out minigun*
>the actor troupe is actually a traveling strip club

orgasm/10 PoMo kino masterpiece

way to take the most obvious bait imaginable you retards

i dont know, in terms of comfy winter movies maybe home alone 1 & 2 and groundhog day. also watch the documentary "the endurance" from 2000 if you want to put your comfyness into perspective (+ its narrated by liam neeson).

and some comfy movies from the top of my head:
playtime
thin red line
memories of murder
satantango

sure there are, im just saying if you get to them youll know, no point in trying so hard to understand all these entry level art house films if they dont appeal to you.

because im 100% none of these people have any desire to rewatch any of these films anytime soon. If you cant say you could put the movie on at any time and have a good time then its not one of your favourites. You want me to believe you could put on this obscure russian adaption of a weird fairy tale from 1955 and enjoy it more than any other movie youve seen? fuck off. oh youve seen 1000 movies and all your favourite films are french arthouse flicks on 1960? sure

>projecting

Eraserhead's not really an art film in the way seventh seal is. Eraserhead is one of my favourite movies.

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>tfw you take the redpill and realize that all "art films" of the last 100 years are created by preachy, nihilistic left-wing douchebags, that are the 'modern art' community

Narrowly dodged the meme, lads.

'modern art' died 50 years ago

i crossed the boringness threshold when i was a kid and i often wonder if it's limited my perspective. a lot of movies must be interminable for people who are unwilling to extend patience to them.

>tfw you realise the only people who post in 3x3 threads are these faggots

Fuck off. I do not believe for a second that your FAVOURITE 9 movies are arthouse pictures. Stop trying to look hip anonymously.

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bait?

Not bait at all. When was the last time you saw ONE blockbuster in those threads that wasn't an obvious troll?

It's because 3x3 threads are a cancer, they're just "brag about how non-mainstream you can be". Fuck off. It doesn't take a genius to source and watch artsy movies.

this must be fucking bait

>his favorite movies are blockbusters and capeshit

LMFAO

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One of my favorite Kinos of all time is Das Weisse Band, but Tourin Horse was too slow for me. It's not abaut pacing, but quality. I really liked the idea, but watching it was exhausting experience.
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