/Jazz/

why is it that Archie Shepp, Anthony Braxton and many other Jazz figure heads of the post-Coltrane era either suck or are gimmicks. It's like they can't into good music. /classical/ doesn't have this problem (prior to the 20th century)

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some people like Nat Birchall do it kinda well

I'll have to look into him, but yeah I've been digging deeper into them more lately and they just feel like nothing you know.

Because you have shit taste?

t falls for the Anthony Braxton/serialism of jazz meme. I've literally in the past month revisited all his albums up to Five Pieces and New York, Dona Lee, Five Pieces and B-X* are the only with at least good moments. For Alto is too bloated and In the Tradition isn't terrible but most of his shit is either garbage or just fucking boring as fuck to listen to. he's like Eric Dolphy if Eric had no taste

Or you can look at people like François Tusques or Eve Risser or Joëlle Léandre, there's plenty of creative musicians not in Coltrane vein of free jazz (if that's what you're looking for, unless you're asking for more of the spiritual side)

I really liked Francois' Free Jazz record, I haven't dug into the other though. And no I've noticed the further Spiritual Jazz got from Coltranes death the more stale it gets.

well even Coltrane covers can have their own sparkles
and yeah Tusques is awesome too bad many of his records are unavailable online... I'm lucky to live in the same country as him so I can get his CDs for free at the library, otherwise I'd be fucked to get access to his music

you lucky bastard, I was so happy when I came across it on Spotify a few months ago in the US. But yeah, I feel like I should use the library more considering I listen to jazz and classical much more than I did in High School and the library would have those more so than probably a rock record or something.

lol just skip listening to jazz altogether and enjoy some trap rap or something