Why do Americans hate socialism?

Why do Americans hate socialism?

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I don't. But many Americans like being cucks to their billionaire bulls.

They might be stupid, but not THAT stupid

americans are right -wing retards
american liberals would be considered center-right in europe, and the conservatives are far-right

you have it upside down
yuropoors are crazy far left nutters

Ahh, the new Germans

Turn off the proxy Tyrone Sanchez.

no, most europeans are centrists. but in contrast to america we also have influential left-wing parties as well

Because Socialism is a stupid, destructive ideology?

For some reason that I don't know most of the anglo nations have a huge dislike for anything welfare related. In fact, being a recipient of welfare is a motive of huge shame which people sometimes never recover, even lead them to suicide.

There are some exceptions like the Canadian and UK health system.

Maybe it has to do with a high tolerance to inequity, or even a desire to maintain inequity to keep social order, but I haven't studied them enough to even give an educated guess about it.

The situation is worse in the USA because their constitution, albeit it was very world changing and revolutionary at the first time, has not received enough updates and amendments to keep up with human social rights, so things like mandatory paid leave for sickness, pregnancy, access to health, etc., are only provided by the "good will" of companies (that's running out) but they can't reclaim anything because there are no laws to support it.

tl:dr They trust too much in self-reliance and good will of other people to trust in institutionalized good will and altruism.

t. classcuck

I'm not rich yet I hate your ideology :^)

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That's what makes you a classcuck.

The funny thing is that all anglo countries, USA included, have gigantic welfare systems that cost more than those of "socialist" countries like Italy or France, and they also have much larger shares of population that rely on state charity to survive

Do you suck your boss' dick before or after he fucks your wife?

That's not the symbol of socialists those are soc dems, classcucks lite

Probably before. This is known as prepping the bull.

Fuck lower class louts, they deserve nothing.

Protestant Anglo culture frozen in time + individualistic settler larping, and voila, merica

This is a bang-on post.

i thought you guys in latam have had enough of socialism in the past to know better?

You're fighting against a force that only exists in an abstract form though. Socialist rhetoric is all about "muh classcuck" or "muh porky" but that's not actually a real enemy. You believe that the next step for humanity is classless stateless egalitarianism. Ignoring how stupid that is for a second consider that trying to rally people against capitalism isn't going to work. You can rally then up against a government that refuses to pass safety laws for workplaces or a good minimum wage or some shit, but "capitalism" itself is far too abstract to get mad at in anything other than a sort of lofty philosophical way.

tldr he's not a cuck, he focuses on de facto reality and you all are focused on propaganda books from 100+ years ago

>SuccDems
>socialist

we're a nation of easily influenced retards. obviously full blown socialism is not ideal, but socialized medicine for example would lower insurance costs across the board. instead we have a large population that thinks paying for someone else's medical expenses as well as your own is anathema and stealing. this same group fails to recognize that they are already doing this in a more expensive manner via ER visits and such. such is the will of the insurance company Jew.

I swear, SWEAR Sup Forums wasn't lefty like this before the us election

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Yes and no.Sup Forums was always well left of Sup Forums, then for a year or two it sent full Sup Forums. Now it's returning to its normal state.

Sup Forums in general has never had any unified political stances and if you think otherwise, you're either new or not paying attention. The only board that even comes remotely close is Sup Forums but they argue over very fundamental shit all the time too. Opinions here are as varied as the opinions of humanity as a whole.

socialized medicine is good for poorfags such as in UK, etc. they don't mind crowded rundown hospitals with obsolete equipment and huge wait times etc as long as it is free. if you are middle class here you get a much better health care via your employer. it is a no brainer. i don't want to be waiting in a "free" long line with a bunch of smelly bums

this was just a meme pic. it doesn't mean that i support hanging all capitalists

So many commies on my Sup Forums

didn't even read past the first sentence. you are the shining example of american retardation for not know that the UK has top class BUPA insurance and private hospitals with no wait times. top class BUPA cost about $1000/year from what my britfag friends tell me.

that's not socialism

We see everything lefty as a direct path to gommunism like euros see everything conservative as nazis trying to take over again.

>implying Sup Forums isn't short for the internationalism
Firm reminder that Sup Forums is a trotskyist board.

hehe good goy, some (((capitalists))) are indeed necessary for society to work

>Marx LITERALLY calls reactionaries cuckolds
That's it, I'm a Marxist now.

Sup Forums has always been mostly filled with left """""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""libertarians""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""""

>Using le Jew meme

>il pas encore pris la pillule NAZBOL

>implying communism isn't jewish
the only way to rid oneself of him is to transform the world into an anarcho primitivist place

>didn't even read past the first sentence
of course you did.

>private
so much for the socialized medicine huh?

>my britfag friends tell me
ah, ok.
they may tell you many things. especially here on Sup Forums

Where were you when you realized the right have always been the true cuckolds?

>Institutionalized altruism
You commies talk funny.

>Having no self respect
>Unable do things on your own
>Literally DEMAND things of society because you are unable to get them with your work
>Literally the opposite of Western Society

Why would anyone go left. Extreme right is kinda stupid but going left is beyond stupid.


I wish all you lefties would get to go to your lefties utopia. Maybe it would work, for the 1000000th time. Not.


Work you cunts. You make your own future.

>are middle class here you get a much better health care via your employer. it is a no brainer. i don't want to be waiting in a "free" long line with a bunch of smelly bums

Please keep your bullshit on your side of the Atlantic.

>It's impossible to have socialized medicine for everyone at the level of NHS and also offer private insurance for the morons that want to be seen in 10 minutes for their stomach ache
lol
American education.

1. Because it's bad for you, sweetie. Trust me, I deal with consequences everyday.
2. Because they were told to. Americans are medieval punks with guns.

Socialism and workers struggle is one of the cornerstones of european civilization

Listen I met a lot of socialists in university and argued with plenty of them. Besides the restrictions on freedom that socialism inevitably will bring, I just fucking hate the idea that lazy pieces of shit will take my hard earned money. Why should it be that way? Why should we set up a society of useless turds who live off of the government? Left wingers are the people who believe that it is my fault that they don't succeed. It isn't ever their fault. It especially isn't because their awful idea that they will never ever get ahead because the cards will just always be stacked against them. They're losers.

America is or maybe used to, all about independence. Working by the sweat of your brow and earning money for you and your family, not getting fucking handouts. Socialism stands in direct opposition those ideals.

Notice how everyone ITT who's from a socialist country is against it and who isn't is for it. Grass is always greener etc

Pic rel is late stage socialism

kys

You already pay more in taxes for public healthcare than most of us. Then you pay for private insurance on top of that.

everyday europe strays further from god

I always have been, that was just the point when I realized that the memes had gone too far.

Are you referring to medicaid? Because I'm against it.

You're just a freeloader who can't assert himself.

Literally no such thing, retard.

Whether you are against something or not, you are still paying more in taxes for healthcare than most countries with socialised healthcare.

Edgy.

> level of NHS
waiting for months for a surgery to treat a potentially life threatening condition is being a moron who wants to be seen in 10 minutes for a stomach ache.
UK is a POOR country compared to the US. their healthcare is SHIT.

your countries was literally found by freemansons who embraced enlightenment and despised religion.
Yet you became reactionary and turned back to christianity to oppose socialist movements.

>Implying that's a bad thing.

>he thinks god is hands on with his creation

Have fun living your empty life without god. Lol cringe socialists. This is also another reason to hate socialism. It is deeply intertwined with atheism and degeneracy in general. Imagine a society without religion or any incentive to get ahead. Yeah not exactly a utopia.

>Waiting months for surgery
LITERALLY doesn't happen unless you don't have a pressing need for it (triage). Go into ANY UK hospital with a broken limb and you'll be in a bed within 10 minutes. You're fucking retarded.

niBBa our country was quite literally founded by pilgrims.

NHS is not a social healthcare system.

German, Danish and Dutch systems are .
and they are also twice as cheap as yours

Okay cletus

>religion
>god

>Remove medicaid
>End up spending even more than you were because more people will treat the emergency rooms as doctor's offices
>Insurance companies raise your premiums even more to cover the write offs they do for the now uninsured people
FUCK THE POOR!

is this the famous american education?
the pilgrims were british colonial subjects. they didn't have their own sovereign country.

Part of Massachusetts =/= the whole country

>Imagine a society without religion
I do, all the time, and it's glorious.
>or any incentive to get ahead
Are you saying that this is the only reason there is to do anything constructive with one's life? Because if so, you sound like the one with the problem here.

Why are you going to hospital for a stomach ache?

>Imagine a society without religion or any incentive to get ahead.

Social-Democratic countries do have an incentive to get ahead. It's litterally the governments job to take care of their citizens as good as they can.

What's the point of discussing anything when pretty much every post amounts to 'ur a retard'?

>What's the point of discussing anything when pretty much every post amounts to 'ur a retard'?

Welcome to the internet.

Yes I'd say in any basic economy the only incentive is being paid money. Why else would anyone work? Sure some people enjoy their jobs, but you'll find out soon enough that most people dread work.

Now the other great incentive in life to be a good man and to start a family is religion.

If you're a newfag, sure.

I ask myself that a lot during the 8 hours or so each day that I spend shitposting here.

So you can call the other people retards.

Most American posters are actually retards and need to be reminded daily

> twice as cheap
what exactly do you mean by that? lower premiums, no deductibles, more coverage or what?

Well those were the people who "founded" our country and our laws are based off their religious ideals.

gommunist!!!

Healthcare spending per capita is half as much as ours in nearly every UHS country.

stop splitting hairs.

Because socialism is retarded, and I live in the richest fucking country in human history and I refuse to see it crash and burn so experimenting leftists filth can try to create another failed utopia of egalitarianism and faggotry

>Now the other great incentive in life to be a good man and to start a family is religion.

I want to be a good man for the sake of being a good man.
It's sad if you think a human being needs religion to have morals.

None of what you just said is true.

Whether you like it or not, most of your ideals, whatever ideals you have left that is, were based by christianity. Accept it reject it, whatever.

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Okay revisionist. Guess our country wasn't founded by anybody then. Whatever it takes to push your false argument I guess.

This frenchfag gets it. Socialism is a destructive ideology. Nothing good can come of it.

It undermines the free economy and being given things for free is a problem. That being said, more government gibs for people who are honestly trying at life shouldn't get butt raped.

Like students and decent artists.

So? do you mean this?
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_total_health_expenditure_per_capita

Compare, say, the top ten and the bottom ten and tell me where you want to be on that list.
High is good? Or bad? Mexico wins? Or the US wins? You guys are so retarded...

free market doesn't work retard

your constitution was written by enlightenment era secularists
that is hardly hair-splitting