Why does 50s music sound so lame and tame nowadays but in the 50s they thought it was like the hellspawn of Satan or...

Why does 50s music sound so lame and tame nowadays but in the 50s they thought it was like the hellspawn of Satan or some shit? Elvis and doowop that shit is hella goofy now but back then the old christians were like "this is OBSCENE". Will people look back on dirty rap music today like we do old 50s music? How dirty will future music be?

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In the grand scheme of things, 50 years isn't a lot.
Probably in a couple hundred years they will see the whole 20th century and early 21st and figure the western civilization was doomed to failure.

i think it had less to do with the actual music and more with the image that those musicians had

Even then the image is so clean and tame compared to shit that came after.
I don't see Western civilization or at least the current neoliberal capitalist model sustaining itself another century. There will be another collapse and with that will be a huge cultural shift. That'll be interesting.

It was a different time. Whaddya want?

because those things were degenerate back then. our standards have only fallen ever since. the slippery slope is real

To be fair, it had only been 20 or 30 years since people were yelling that jazz was the devil's music.

They accussed rock n roll of encouraging interacial relationships and teenage sexuality/pregnancy, which are more acceptable now but still considered degenerate. and jazz was associated with drug use and weed, which is more legal now. It also used to be degenerate just to make black music but now all music is black music

rip western society

What will the music of the future be like? Can it really get more depraved? Are we overreacting like the Christians were in the past, or perhaps maybe the Christian fundamentalists were onto something?

Rap music sounds lame and tame and goofy right now, let alone in the future

>Can it really get more depraved?
I'm still waiting to hear mainstream Pop/Hip-Hop/etc songs about scat, vore, inflation, etc... I mean, it's the logical next step.

Jazz was controversial back in the day, when they started playing Bebop it scared off all the old white folks. It was the gangster rap of it's time. Then Elvis came along and started shaking his hips and everyone thought it was too sexually provocative.

It's like that every decade though, new styles of music that causes controversy.Now days things have changed, music's already hit it's peak edginess in the 90's with rap and nu-metal so it calmed down some since the 2000's.

Because most people were conservative and co conservatives make bad music

>What will the music of the future be like? Can it really get more depraved?
it's retarded to assume that things always keep going in the same direction. where could you possibly go after GG Allin?

I wish there were a new GG, but more popular. Could you imagine someone today selling sold-out shows to tens of thousands of people, then writhing around onstage naked with a tiny schlong, shouting about being degenerate over a distorted trap beat, as a dozen drones fly around shooting diarrhea at people?

Right, I can't think of anything that's appeared genuinely dangerous (to certain segments of the population) since the 90s. Anything happening now is at worst stupid but harmless. You can go see Jean-Louis Costes and get splattered with human shit, but you're not going to be surprised when it happens. Nothing's really threatening or confrontational or surprising. No one's afraid of silly theatrics.

Costes is as close as you're going to get, he hits all the points except popularity
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People were more conservative back then. You know those old Universal horror movie like Frankenstein or Dracula? Those films used to put people in the goddamned hospital.
Here, have an instrumental that was banned from the radio.
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how is this even on YouTube

HAHAHAHAHA

it's not even age restricted

actually there were some early films that were really extreme and off the deep end

Because our society has deteriorated so much.

No, it won't be "interesting". It will be horrible.

Why not both

It will be dialectical.

>*ignores the fact 60s and 70s music is no different*

how is anyone gonna top rap music

the managed to make murdering people cool and there people in jail roght now for murder whp are only in there because of the path rappers laid for them

this next wave of musicians gonna have to bring back cousin fucking or something if they wanna have an impact

>this next wave of musicians gonna have to bring back cousin fucking or something if they wanna have an impact
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>how is anyone gonna top rap music
metal revival

i'm convinced that the globalized underclass lifestyle sold by rap music has been a net negative for humanity as a whole

Maybe some NSBM musician will try and start a real genocide.

>convinced

its a fact. theres heaps of people who have ruined their lives because of hip hop

Aiming to make music "shocking" is resigning music to novelty, which is craft not art.

>Even then the image is so clean and tame compared to shit that came after.
Sounds like you just answered your own question, retard.

Of course shit like Elvis seems tame as fuck compared to Alice Cooper or Madonna. Compare Elvis to who came before him.

That's not an entirely new phenomenon. Hundreds of years ago lots of European folk had fairly similar subject matter, just with alcohol and highwaymen instead of lean and modern gangsters.

It's just that for the guts of a century music was totally controlled by the record industry and so the only way something would get attention is if it was marketable, rap is just the thing that proved it was a safe market for investors.

i could see some deeply racist music becoming unstoppably popular the way the world is headed

blacks already make racist music

yeah its crazy how much hatred they have littered through their music. i never even noticed when i was a kid that alot of these rap songs i was listening were full of anti white sentiment. calling us all kinds of hate filled shit, its absolutely sickening that this music was allowed to get popular

no fucking way dude. maybe in shitholes like turkey or ukraine or whatever but the very foundations of the so-called first world rests on multicultural togetherness and acceptance of others. you can write 100 songs about hating cops or rich people but singling out groups for racist reasons will never be kosher

even if a record company lacked enough scruples to pull off something like that, why would they want to alienate a potential audience in the first place? racism doesn't really rake in the moolah anymore, everybody's gotta be invited

>but the very foundations of the so-called first world rests on multicultural togetherness and acceptance of others
I'm pretty sure the very foundations of the first world are the ruthless exploitation of other continents and the domestic underclass. Up to and including slavery.

>horrible
very likely
>interesting
also very likely
one does not exclude the other
>absolutely sickening that this music was allowed to get popular
heh

rappers have been writing songs about "sticking up white boys in ball courts" for the better part of 30 years and their main audience has always been white boys

you can sell anything if you market it right

with that said they would never allow white racism to infect mainstream music. i could see an online movement rising

i just wish we could go back to the days where people were open to pretending race didnt exist. nowadays people will even attack you for saying "idont see color". theres no love anymore. everyone i just expected to hate each other for no reason. its too stressful

>rappers have been writing songs about "sticking up white boys in ball courts"
Do you listen to rap music?
Have you ever met a black person?

>theres no love anymore. everyone i just expected to hate each other for no reason. its too stressful
what? no, people just want you to be aware of and recognize your privileges, and act accordingly. why do you want to go back to "pretending" something? don't you realize that's the problem?

Someone gets it.

i humbly apologize for being white. *sucks bbc*

I sometimes wonder why some people are massively offended by the idea of admitting that their life might be easier in some ways than someone elses. If anything it feels like they're the ones who are obsessed with white guilt

kys kike if i ever hear someone say that shit irl im hurting them

i used to listen to rap when i was a teenager and i never realised how much white hate they had in their music till recently

wu tang literally brags about sticking up white boys in ball courts and his main audience is white boys. wu tangs music is littered with this shit, talking about driving all you "demons back to the caucas mountains" "edomites" "cavemen". full of all this subtle anti white shit and they are far from unique, even kendrick said our dna is inferior

white people got tricked into listening to music that actively promotes their own deaths. i cant listen to rap music because of this. i just put on some stevie and on the days when people actually wanted peace

people try way too hard to make people hate each other for no reason. theres whole social etiquette in place to ensure it and its coming from every angle, i cant bear it. i want no part in this demonic future, i hate no one

>white person: *exists*
>black person: AYO FUCC U WHITEY

does this picture trigger you?

>wu tang literally brags about sticking up white boys in ball courts and his main audience is white boys. wu tangs music is littered with this shit, talking about driving all you "demons back to the caucas mountains" "edomites" "cavemen". full of all this subtle anti white shit and they are far from unique, even kendrick said our dna is inferior
Okay, where?

Why do Americans hate sex so much?

imo Britbongs are far more sexually repressed than Americans so it's probably a hangover from being ruled by Anglos.

american white males only like sex when theyre standing in the corner naked while a bbc blows their wifes back out on their own bed

no. and stop acting like a dumb Sup Forumsshit, you know what i'm talking about

where what?

why is this allowed?

I was asking you to cite some songs. Clearly you have a few in mind and I wanted to listen to them.

>you know what im talking about

yeah, you're talking about a conspiracy theory. if these white supremacist institutions do really exist they are doing a terrible job. white people arent even the bread winners in their "white supremacist super state"

>I sometimes wonder why some people are massively offended by people of (often) other races assuming they know what your life is like and having the gall to say you have it easier than them due to some bullshit like your skin colour

What I really wonder is why these fucking morons don't see how racist they're being when they say shit like that. You're not white, you've never been white, and you have 0 authority to speak to me about what it's like to be white.

the songs i was talking about were cream and da mystery of cheese boxing by wu tang

with that said im not even gonna say we cant give black people some extra help to get up to scratch with rest of the country. but why take it out on the white middle class like any of these average ass white people have anything to do with black peoples place in this world, like little billy the white boy from down the street is in on some sinister plot to oppress black people. all the middle class and lower class people should be working together rather than creating cultures and ideologies built on hating one and other for no reason other than the color of their skin and the sad part is you'll probably call me a racist for saying this

im just done with all ideologs. if i even smell the slight stench of ideology radiating off someone im done with them, doesnt matter if its right wing or left

its cheesy but it comes down to political stuff. things like how parents raise their children, whats considered bad and whats not.

> if i even smell the slight stench of ideology radiating off someone im done with them, doesnt matter if its right wing or left
I got just what you need, senpai.

Music of the future will be made by robots. Real ones, not Daft Punk.

Elvis stole music & gimmicks from Blacks (sexual dance moves, way of singing, etc)
Jerry Lee Lewis had crazy scene antics & espoused his underaged cousin
Little Richard was a fruity fag
etc.
for 1950's white Americans, born in the 30s/40s, it was Hell corrupting youth in very possible ways.

Ahem.

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50s truly were a forward-looking period with regards to electronic music and musique concrete

religions duh
puritanism, protestanism, calvisnism, evangelicals, etc. Catholicism HATES sex.

Music of the future will be made by IAs*
ftfy

yeah, you have to remember that these people had been raised on victory against the axis powers in ww2 and production code movies where the bad guy always had to have his comeuppance and so on, very clear moral guidelines and values

Guess that explains the reputation catholic girls have of being easy and catholic families being too large; they hate sex, obviously.

I'm certain that trap/soundcloud rap/muble rap or whatever you call it is the next "edgy" thing.

Young dudes with fucked up hair and clothes, tattoos all across their bodies including their faces mubling about drugs, money and killing people or even themselves is pretty edgy and shocking a lot of people. How can the hit song of the moment is a dude mumbling "gucci gang" repeatedly and saying shit like "my bitch love do cocaine" or something like that. That shit is way more shocking than idk nu-metal was. The process is not over, who knows what wilk happen in the next decades.

It's not like they were never victims of racism too
Come on dude don't act like you are totally oblivious about all the problematic race relations in America. It's not like all those lyrics came out of the blue with no context or history behind them whatsoever

you have Christianity to blame for that

I don't see how that's shocking at all, it's just a slight variant of the same theatrics we've seen already for decades. Dumb hedonism is nothing new. It's certainly not scary or whatever. Punk did pretty much the same shit.

people here have no shame for spitting ignorance. Have you ever even studied Christianity? One of its core principles is that so called "flesh" pleasures are sin and needs to be avoided at all costs. The only exception being when having sex to have a child.
I'm not going to bother explaining any further because you seem like a complete idiot but you should consider studying more.

Because it violated a lot of codes that all of us (and 99 percent of Christians) have forgotten about. Harmony (already everywhere with a huge revival of barbershop singing from the 1930s to 1960s) wasn't supposed to be used outside of a choir, and actually no music was supposed to exist other than what is permitted in the Bible. Dancing outside of high art was considered very lascivious and attempts had been made to curb it since the 1910s, having been near eradicated among the lower classes by Protestants in the 19th century. Showing certain amounts of skin was obscene. The image of the teenager went along with a number of civil disturbances and riots. 'Bird music' (early doo wop) and rock n roll with sexualised lyrics made by blacks became especially popular amongst white consumers so they had to neuter it into Pat Boone and the Chordettes and novelty songs

Yeah it's similar to what punk did, but punk did not hit the mainstream the way those dudes are hitting. Watch 80s movies, you will be surprised by the ammount of movie bad guys that are either punks or guys using punk aesthetics. Today i wouldn't be surprised if one of those dudes became a movie hero.
I agree with you that its very similar but i think that the fact that this is a new subculture hitting the mainstream is enough prove that we did not hit peak "depravity", or whatever you call it lol, in the 90s and now things are more caste. Cardi B is in the top of the charts ffs

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The next step will obviously be WOKE rap and other forms of WOKE music.

STAY WOKE

dude punk was mainstream

"depravity" has long lots its edge because it's boring; you can't shock people anymore

Movies in the 1920s were often borderline pornography, so this led to the Motion Picture Production Code being phased in afterwards.

Then why do so many little kiddies propel XXXtentacion, Kodak Black and Lil Pump into the charts? It clearly hasn't lost its edge in certain ways

i know, I'm just saying that the fact that those dudes are popular proves that
>Now days things have changed, music's already hit it's peak edginess in the 90's with rap and nu-metal so it calmed down some since the 2000's.
is not true.
And those guys still shock, it may not shock us because we are young (I'm assuming you are young) but my mother, even tho being contemporary of punk is still schoked by those guys

>inflation
i beg your fuckijg pardon

>1998

WHAT IS THIS DEVILISH THELONIOUS MONK?

because they like the music?

my point is that there's hardly anyone now who isn't wise to it; everyone knows that metal and industrial musicians are just nerds who like B horror movies, they aren't really doing ritual sacrifices to Satan on stage or putting subliminal messages in their music, it's all just stupid haunted house theatrics

and to the point that they're glorifying drugs or violence or whatever, it's not really any worse now than it was decades ago; that's been more or less constant since forever

are you a robot? this question is so cringe

Fucking pathetic

they're right you know
what, you think black people can't be racist?

my man

this is the only true statement in this thread. things will continue to get worse until a point of no return

It's always white people being racist, look around this board you blind twat.

>Sup Forums
>somehow the majority
nah you're clueless

let me guess, you also think that Sup Forums got trump elected and that death grips is an obscure group, right?

they freaked out when blacks were doing it but when the beatles did it and smoked weed and shit they were a-ok with it

No, you daft clueless cunt i dont, but every thread about racism here is talking about jews and blacks, never about whites, so maybe you should fuck off to Sup Forums and take your soybeans nazi bitch who killed his cat.

>every thread on here
>once again,
>Sup Forums
>somehow the majority in any regard

perhaps you should spend more time talking to people especially IRL and asking more questions instead of calling everyone who sees through your lies a "nazi." disgusting.

I hope this post is bait

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