I really like Hip Hop music but I've always had problems finding new music. I kinda find an artist and stick with that one album and exclusively listen to it for a long time. I wanna branch out and find some other shit. I'm also the stereotypical white kid who listens to rap. I've listened to a lot of Hopsin, Chance, Childish Gambino, Kendrick, Eminem, Lil Dicky, Post Malone. I just want some new music to broaden my tastes.
Also I don't care if its popular, old or new, just give me some shit to listen to. Preferably if the artist is on Spotify. Thanks.
Why don't you stop listening to rap and stop being a self hating white man? Grow up. If you want black music, listen to jazz.
Michael Stewart
haha race traitor xd got him
Carson Sanchez
I got some charts for you senpai.
Sebastian Roberts
You'll learn
Owen Gomez
This flowchart really helped me but I also tend to lurk every thread.
Jacob Perez
I forgot f a m turns to senpai for a second. Anyway: Another one.
Nathan Cooper
You may not touch this one since you're mostly into the newer shit but hereyago anyway.
Joshua Robinson
>being white >listening to nigger music Why?
Jackson Powell
wow this is a lot of shit, thanks for the replies. Are there any tracks or albums you guys specifically like out of these? haha
Nicholas Thompson
it's funny because by spamming "haha" instead of any coherent reply you're basically admitting you can't form a coherent reply
Xavier Walker
some people dont see race politics in everything
Gabriel Kelly
What is the appeal of rap? I'm white and I don't understand. I'm being serious. I genuinely want to know what people like about it.
Leo Lee
Look into minstrel shows. Similar phenomenon.
Daniel Bennett
>Are there any tracks or albums you like specifically out of these
I'm the 2010s chart guy. Here's a few of my favorites: Cosmogramma and You're Dead! All the Kendrick stuff (but you already heard it) Tutankhamen All of Danny's stuff Pinata B4.DA.$$ Wildflower The Suns Tirade Blankface.
Is a good chart.
Blake Martinez
This is the same person that listens to anime openings.
Chase Baker
some people literally need a father figure so badly that a black guy saying "muh dick muh bitches we wuz kangs nigga nigga" is appealing, it's basically a product of broken households and single mothers
Cameron Davis
its funny because implying that my taste in music is in anyway an actual issue is retarded as fuck. You mock me for not making any actual interesting statements but you yourself commit the same actions.
for me personally I really like artist that have strong flow and lyricism. I find it sick as fuck hearing someone tell a story or express their emotions through rhyming. The way the songs are written, the passion behind the delivery, it's all great to me. I just don't feel the realness or raw execution from other genres.
Caleb Nelson
So do you retards just refuse to listen to Hendrix because he was black?
Aiden Watson
>wahhh! don't criticize my music taste on a music board!!! I'm being bullied on Sup Forums of all places! mommy help! I dunno what you expected
Brandon Gutierrez
>a black guy saying "muh dick muh bitches we wuz kangs nigga nigga" You either have listened to 4 rap songs in your life or (the more obvious answer) you're baiting.
Ian Cox
Why do you think that? See: >if you want black music, listen to jazz I don't know if he would extend that to black rock but I would.
Samuel Taylor
last week some user challenged Sup Forums to name three rap songs not about sex, drugs and money >Sup Forums failed on the first track of the first record
Evan Scott
Not the guy you're replying to, but I listened to hip-hop all throughout high school and that's honestly what 99% of hip-hop is about. You're not fooling anybody. I cringe when I think about some of the trash I used to enjoy.
Parker Young
Mate, that's exactly what it is. If you enjoy that kind of thing, that's fine, but don't lie.
Hunter Taylor
a genre of music is born in settings of total poverty. Where drugs, gang violence, and police brutality is openly displayed on the streets. Young men grow from these settings and obtain success. They get money, nice cars, homes, things they never thought were possible to obtain because of their background. Then they rap about their successes, and are judged?
Idk name a country song where there is no mention of beer, young white women, or farm life.
Robert Johnson
>stop being a self hating white man i think you're talking about yourself m8
I also like to listen to rap but less and less these days
its all singing about the same shit, glorifying gangs, dropping out of school, dealing etc and then being mad when "the hood" is in complete shambles 99% of the time and when nobody wants to help
I've been switching to some lighter rap, Drake is pretty good imo, none of that acting tough shit, just rapping about life, women etc.
really like his older stuff like Take Care and Nothing Was The Same
As someone who discovered music listening to rock and still listens to it, hip hop is way more free and less formulaic, its not guitar-centric or you dont even need drums in every track, or you can use anything to do the sound of what would be your drums, when I want to listen do different sounds, I listen to some hip-hop artists, mostly kanye, doom and lately brockhampton though
Zachary Morris
i don't like country either ya dip. for similar reasons i don't like hip hop. it's the same shit rapped about in every song and it's tiring, and the instrumentation isn't good.
Hudson Wright
You're literally making excuses. I told you why I didn't like rap. You're trying to rationalize away my reasons for not liking rap, by listing things I couldn't care the least about. Why should I care about Lil Skittles poor life in the bronx or whatever? You can admit rap is inherently an egocentric genre about "muh dick, muh bitches, muh gat", why do you fail to admit there's a large section of the population who doesn't identify with that lyricism, doesn't appreciate it, and frankly is sick of it?
Dominic Morales
>realness Holy shit. He thinks hip-hop is real. Mate, it's all an act.
Angel Carter
OP just wanted some albums not the whole bible.
Luis Cox
>no u GOTTEM!
Evan Peterson
>hip-hop is more free and less formulaic Hip-hop is restricted and formulaic as fuck. I'm guessing the only rock you've listened to is boring ass classic rock.
Anthony Phillips
I feel bad for OP. He wanted some recs and now he's getting a shitfit between people who do and don't like hip hop.
Thomas Diaz
I'm not gonna tell you that the themes in hip hop are not completely original in each song. Cause that'd be bullshit. But just because something is similar does not mean they can't stand on their own. Tons of songs are about sex drugs and gang violence, but the best artists make their voice unique. I'm not making excuses? I'm telling you why the themes are usually consistent. If you don't like it, or you don't identify with it, that's fine. But if you can listen to Tupac, Biggie, Kendrick, any fucking rapper with good lyricism and not understand the talent that goes into it, then idk.
No one forces you to listen. IDK why you're even in this thread about something you don't like. That's just fucking retarded.
Sebastian Brown
People simply enjoy this kind of music it isn't that hard to understand. >but muh dick muh bitches It happens on a mainstream level and it's fun to brag about shit like that sometimes.
Parker Nelson
The only country album I really liked was Marty Robbin's Trail Songs and Gunfighter Ballads, I'm sure there's a few more, but that's basically spaghetti western.
>a genre defined entirety by a single set vocal style >freer than a genre without any real definition other than "this shit rocks"
Noah Price
>IDK why you're even in this thread about something you don't like. That's just fucking retarded. This all the way. The concept of doing that in general is awful.
I don't go into metal threads saying "OMG you listen to Metal metal is awful." I just pass it by and go to/make a thread for genres I like.
Aiden Phillips
I don't fucking care why the themes are consistent. Do you think I'm not aware that ghettos exist? All I care about is good music, which by and large hiphop fails to provide. Sure, there's talent in good flow, I won't dispute that. There's talent in male figure skating too, I still won't watch it.
Caleb White
It's Sup Forums, it's for discussion I used to be like you, a "hip hop head" and it was the only genre my friends and I listened to. Then I expanded my horizons and stopped being close minded about other music, and I also gradually came to realize as I got older this shit is really immature and poorly executed. It's primitive music that requires no musicianship or songcraft, just rhyming about slanging dope and fucking girls. It can be fun, but outside of a party or something I really can't understand why someone would want to listen to this stuff all the way through a whole album. All I'm saying is there's so much more music out there, if you're confining yourself to hip hop and the same old tired themes about "tha struggle", you're really limiting yourself. Check out other genres man, check out jazz, r&b, funk, the songs the rappers sample.
Mainstream pop is just as disposable
Austin Wilson
welcome to Sup Forums culture, where stalking threads of artists you don't like and spamming one dead meme (DUDE SICK RIFFS / awfully hot coffee pot / etc) is how we roll
Cameron Myers
Fun is subjective, different people find different things fun, and I guarantee people complaining about hiphop lyricism think listening to some asshole talking about his schlong is "tedious and boring", not "fun". Paint me some sort of crazy ass fantasy world. Tell the story of a spaghetti western or a space pirate. Sadboi shit and "muh dick"ing is tired and old.
Nathan Martinez
>rich white kids listen to black men talk about the struggle and doing drugs that they're not brave enough to try because escapism Did I get it right? Is that all there is to hip-hop?
Luke Rodriguez
you forgot "other black people who think they can one day become rich focusing on rap and dropping out of school, taking up drugs and gang violence as suggested by their music, and perpetuating their own cycle of poverty while blaming the white man"
Gabriel Cruz
This unironically hiphop is currently the lowest hanging fruit
Kayden Gray
yeah people who only listen to datpiff mixtapes of some shitty lil rapper are really missing out on so much great music. i get checking out the best stuff like kendrick, tyler, drake, etc. but any random c-list guy who just raps about gangs and sex and shit? nah, waste of time. at least with indie and rock and electronic music these are people playing instruments and writing original compositions doing varied shit and not just loops and spoken word.
Evan Collins
You need a guitar on a rock band, everything has already been made on this instrument, I dont even like death grips that much but tell me what even are those sounds. Some classic rock is cool btw you sound like a dickhead trying to dismiss what I said with the obvious "hurr durr you must like dad rock"
Im not talking about vocal style, I couldnt care less about the MC or what hes saying, although some do have nice stuff to say
Brandon Morales
calling hip hop primitive? I don't even know what to say to that. You seem pretty set in your ways so I don't think its even worth the effort to try and convince you that your wrong. I just know for a fact its not "primitive." I also know that if you look for the right shit, its not immature or poorly executed. Just because I like hip hop doesn't mean I don't like other genres, idk where you're getting that from. I never said that. I just said that I find it the most enjoyable. You're just wrong.
My parents did heroin and meth throughout my childhood. Dad in and out of prison. Mom fucking random dudes I didn't know. Lived in a shitty apartment in the ghetto of SoCal. My grandparents saved me. They saved me from the gangs, the drugs, all of it. So yeah, I identify with it despite being blessed with luck and privilege. Even if I was rich, its not escapism. What is wrong with admiring someone struggle and try to succeed against all the odds?
Jesus did some black kid steal your bike or fuck you girlfriend in highschool? You're so up in arms about fucking music.
Henry Gutierrez
Rock is deader than dead though. What's the best new rock? I dont even fucking kno. I don't fw Mac Demarco or 21 Pilots or Death Grips or Radiohead or whatever the fuck is new these days.
>writes like ten paragraphs about why rap is good and everyone else needs to like it >>nigga u dumb >WHY SO UP IN ARMS You're oddly defensive about rap. Hiding some insecurity?
Jason Jenkins
All popular music is limited by having to appeal to mediocre people
Matthew James
I think you're wrong, and rap song structures are extremely primitive and formulaic, but ok you're pretty set in your ways and I'm not going to convince you that you're wrong.
Gabriel Russell
You could literally just go to Melon's channel and scroll through his rock playlist.
Which of these genres sound most appealing? >Prog >Psych >Garage >Various Metal genres
Christian Mitchell
never claimed why anyone needed to like it though. Also I've probably written about one actual paragraph. I know your 100 word essays are hard for you to churn out, but I have no problem typing for literally 2 minutes to make a reply. But sure, I'm hiding insecurity? well played. GG
Julian Diaz
>yea, my pa was a felon and my ma was a whore >why do you hate rap culture tho lmao
Anthony Richardson
>You need a guitar on a rock band, everything has already been made on this instrument Wrong. Plenty of rock bands don't even use guitar. Also, a guitar is infinitely more versatile than a drum machine. Some of the sounds you can make with effects pedals are fucking insane. >I dont even like death grips that much but tell me what even are those sounds. Mostly chopped up drum samples, vocal samples, keyboards, etc. Death Grips are interesting at times, but you and I both know that they don't represent hip-hop as a whole.
Tyler Rogers
You're white trash, you can relate to rap lyrics. Got it.
White trash love metal, country, hip hop for a reason.
Grayson Green
"Even if I was rich, its not escapism. What is wrong with admiring someone struggle and try to succeed against all the odds?"
Alexander Jones
>Rock is deader than dead though Wrong. It's just underground. You only have a surface-level knowledge of music. You probably let the radio and music reviewers decide your taste. >What's the best new rock? I dont even fucking kno. Why does it have to be new? There's 50 years of rock music for you to discover. There's some amazing obscure shit out there. >I don't fw Mac Demarco or 21 Pilots or Death Grips or Radiohead or whatever the fuck is new these days Good, because all of those artists suck cock. If those are the artists that come to mind when you think of rock music, you don't know shit about music. Stop listening to the radio.
Daniel Jackson
>admiring someone struggle and try to succeed against all the odds yeah that's definitely what this represents
>"I’m lookin’ at your tight rear like a sightseer / Your booty is heavy duty (/doody) likediarrhea"
Xavier Cook
>my new bitch yellow >she blow my dick like a cello >admiring somebodys struggle Just admit that it sucks.
Asher Cox
Rich suburban kids have no odds to succeed against. Safest existence in the world and they blast songs driving their mom's Kia about getting out of the ghetto. Not applying to you necessarily, but that's why it's ridiculous though.
Robert Wright
Cannibal Ox
(Lil Dicky is the antichrist and should be hated)
Elijah Cooper
Quick post some new innovative rock music that is pushing the genre forward and will inspire new bands to come
Hudson Cooper
Quick post good rap from the 1970s
Charles Morales
nice. cherry picking, Epic.
I still don't really get it. Maybe if they're acting hood and creating a fake image that would be considered ridiculous. But whats wrong with playing music you like? I know plenty of people who would've never guessed I like hip hop. My parents, my friends, my co workers, but I don't create a fake version of myself. I just like the music.
Adam Morales
I don't want old music, I want bands I can follow today and see live. I want to be a fan of music that's happening now, that I can talk to with my peers. Right now that's hip hop. Rock is big in niche circles, and the rock that's big is awful. I can listen to The Beatles all I want, but can I go see The Beatles live or party and fuck to The Beatles? Can I listen to The Beatles and hear something totally new, fresh, innovative, and resonating with the times I live in and not when it was made? No.
Bentley Scott
>cherrypicking Do you want me to fucking list every single shitty lyric in hiphop? Because we'll be here a while.
Easton Cruz
Post some good hip-hop lyrics. Hard mode: no "Dance With The Devil" and no "penitentiary chances..." I'm sick of those being the only two songs that people ever post.
Ethan Jackson
Personally I don't like rap because it's very sexist, degrading to women, and homophobic and it makes me uncomfortable.
Nathan Martin
let's critically examine this post
which is more likely on Sup Forums >some rap nigger setting up his own bait >an actual tumblr male feminist HEY RABBI, WHATCHA DOIN'
Benjamin Davis
This isn't true at all but OK.
Look I aint gonna lie I think you guys might be racist. That's why you dont like hip hop and you come up with bullshit slander to rationalize it. That's why you push rock and jazz (jazz ceased being a black genre in the 70s, blacks dont listen to jazz no more now it's kenny g and crap) and classical, because you're low key white supremacists. You hate rap because you think it's "thug". You name drop funk and soul because they don't sing in ebonics so you think it's "acceptable" and "safe for white people". I see through your game Sup Forums, I see you.
Leo Campbell
I mean, you could do that with ANY genre. You aren't making any meaningful statements or adding to the conversation. I've said "yeah a lot of the music shares similar themes, but if you look in the right places you can find music with something unique." And your response was finding the exact opposite type of lyrics I was mentioning and trying to epic own me.
idk Swimming Pools by Kendrick was the first thing to come to mind, because like I said, I'm very limited in what I listen to. Kendrick is huge for me.
Now I done grew up round some people living their life in bottles Granddaddy had the golden flask back stroke every day in Chicago Some people like the way it feels Some people wanna kill their sorrows Some people wanna fit in with the popular that was my problem
The whole song is about the problems that come with self medicating through drugs and alcohol. I think that's good. He even talks about how people from an older generation suffered from the same issues.
I think this post is ironic, but I consider this to be an actual legitimate criticism. But I think these kinds of tones are starting to fade out.
Brandon Rodriguez
>I don't want old music Close-minded. >I want bands I can follow today and see live. That's a little more understandable. >I want to be a fan of music that's happening now, that I can talk to with my peers. Right now that's hip hop. So you want to be a normie? You just use music as a social tool? As a conversation starter? >Rock is big in niche circles, and the rock that's big is awful. Again, caring about what's "big" instead of what's good, like a raging pleb. The best music is often found in small circles. Why are you focused so much on popularity? >I can listen to The Beatles all I want, but can I go see The Beatles live or party and fuck to The Beatles? Music is just background noise for social events, huh? You're proving to me that you have no interest in music as an art form. Why are you here?
Nolan Gomez
I'm actually serious, I'm gay as the day is bright. I like cock, I like sucking loads. I'm jerking it to gay porno right now. That's why I don't like rap, or Islam, or any of this shit you guys push. Because these groups target people like me and they hate me. You can say it's "moderating" or "fading out" but that doesn't change the history and attitudes prevalent in these communities. I'm not going to ignore that. The woman thing, I think the attitudes towards women in rap songs are very gross and crude personally, they don't treat them like human beings at all, just objects of conquest and like property. It's so fucked up to me. I get it there's guys like Brockhampton making waves, but they're the exception to the rule.
Henry Wilson
Are you op? In the op it said that you didn’t care if it was old >I want to be a fan of music that’s happening now, that I can talk to with my peers Ok got it, you don’t care about the music you just wanna use it as a fashion accessory to signal to the rest of the herd. Also there is music in every genre currently being made that probably represents your lifestyle better than hiphop. Just admit you don’t know what you’re talking about and just wanna fit in and seem cool. I don’t listen to hip hop much but my taste there is more varied than yours. I’ve never felt more embarrassed on behalf of an user
Lincoln Bailey
Yeah reggae and hip hop are very homophobic. I can't fuck with that as a leftist.
Adam King
let's trace back this argument
>rap is just muh dick muh bitches >>N-no! It isn't! >yes it is >>O-okay fine! It is but THAT'S THE CULTURE OKAY RESPECT IT >that doesn't make it not shit >>MY FATHER WAS A FELON AND MY MOTHER WAS A WHORE SO I'M INCREDIBLY DEFENSIVE ABOUT GHETTO CULTURE >k but rap is trash >>YOU'RE RACIST k
Easton Moore
Are you not racist? Could have fooled me with some of these responses! Why do you hate so called "ghetto culture" so much and the thought of black people overcoming adversity and rapping about it?
Nolan Foster
I seriously do consider what you said to be an actual, legitimate issue. Believe me I'm not trying to underplay that. And you are right, the fact that it is fading out doesn't change the past or fix any of the stigma the music has. But I also think the way a lot of hip hop treats women may not be as big of an issue as you might think. There are a lot of shitty rappers who talk about money and sex with no substance. But talking about sex with women isn't necessarily wrong, at least I don't think so. There are women who just like sex. Sluts and whores do exist, and I don't think that bringing them up is necessarily shaming them.
that wasn't the OP. That's me.
I literally never said it wasn't about sex and bitches. Go back to the top, reread.
Brody Davis
i mean you are racist
Brody Reed
It doesn't matter if I'm literally the Grand Dragon of the Ku Klux Klan, Hitler Reincarnate, The Second Coming of White Jesus, you haven't been able to refute any of the reasons I don't care for rap. "Wahhh racism" is not an argument.
Jayden Johnson
Your racism clouds your judgement of the genre. You don't like it not for the musical or even lyrical content, but because it's by black people.
Tell me what are your thoughts on AC/DC and country music?
Nathaniel Moore
>you're racist for not liking rap So its come to this? It couldn't possibly be because rap is some of the laziest, most awful-sounding music I've ever heard. No, that's just not possible. It must be because I hate black people.
Chase Watson
I fucking hate country and AC/DC is one of the worst rock bands I've ever heard.
Kayden Reed
>Racism clouds your judgement That's a blanket claim you're making without evidence. Again, I could literally be Hitler II, True Imperial Holy Roman Emperor, Whitener of the World, and "rap has an obsession with sex, drugs and money that makes the genre generally distasteful" is still a truthful statement.
>AC/DC and country music 99% of "industry-country" is shit, I haven't listened to enough AC/DC to form an opinion but I'm not hot on what I have heard (which is why I haven't sat down and listened to a discography of them).
Brandon King
Why do you believe it's "lazy" and "awful sounding"?
Nolan Walker
Mate, AC/DC is awful. Rap is also awful.
Gabriel Howard
Why do you believe it isn't?
Sebastian Taylor
i fucking hate Sup Forums but i hate you tumblr fuckers even more
rap is just creatively bankrupt as a genre. i think eminem is one of the worst rappers, in fat worse than the majority of black rappers. hell i like some rap, but i'm getting tired of the same shit in every song. it's not unbelieveable. i'm not even posting much itt it's stupid to be triggered over some guy liking a genre but you are taking it too far
Michael Robinson
>Gucci Gang x 50 This would not be acceptable in any other genre. Rap has the lowest standards of quality of any genre. It's easy as fuck to make, which makes it boring for me to listen to. I find the same old "money, sex, drugs, gangs, the struggle" lyrics boring as fuck. It's one of the least diverse, most restrictive and tired genres out there.
Landon Parker
I-I'm not racist!! Look, I don't even like the WHITE GUY how can I be racist???
Matthew Barnes
Because it's where the most innovation is happening in music at the moment? You are denying the creativity on albums like TPAB, MBDTF, Flower Boy, etc some of the best albums of the 2010s? Extremely talented flow, wordplay, storytelling, etc? Why do you hate that? Why do you hate themes of drugs, sex, poverty, police brutality, overcoming struggle, lie in the ghetto so much when this is what they experience every day? Why are you so against hearing these topics?
Christopher King
nobody cares if you're racist it's fucking Sup Forums, niggers can go burn or whatever you think I believe, that still has zero bearing on any actual argument, it's just a personal attack because you can't refute the post
Justin Rodriguez
>why do you hate that every song has the exact same theme of some black guy talking about his penor and whining about cops Doesn't it ever get old for you? Maybe you're autistic, or maybe your childhood trauma is clouding your judgement. In no other genre would every "major and innovative" album having the exact same theme be accepted.
Jace Morris
Flower Boy and MBDTF do not have these themes and those are just 2 albums listed. Have you even listened to them, or is your prejudice preventing you from doing so?