What is it with all these bedroom lofi indie pop artists with wealthy parents?

What is it with all these bedroom lofi indie pop artists with wealthy parents?

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can't make real music without suffering and in the absence of such this shit crops up
not hard to deduce yourself user was this thread really necessary

I want to slap this bitch and make her kiss my dick.

>can't make real music without suffering
(not true btw)

it's true, also people who have gone through no trauma are lesser people. trauma forces people to self reflect and become introspective, giving them a deeper understanding of not only themselves but the world. that's why trust fund rich people are the worst people on earth.

post me some good music by a musician who hasn't suffered in some form
btw i didn't mean that suffering automatically generates great music/art—plenty of artists who have suffered extremely still suck ass. But I've never encountered good art from someone who hadn't been fucked by the world first.

also this
it sounds like tumblr "SUFFERING AND VICTIMHOOD ARE REQUIRED" shit but to actually appreciate the world from a genuine perspective you need to encounter and overcome hardship

tumblr suffering is like, some dude holding a door for you or someone suggesting that being obese isn't healthy. i mean actual suffering like being raised by heroin addicts and not having heat/food/normal things other kids have

Nichard Dixon is all original poor college student music (^:

Most indie pop stars (and, while we're at it, music journalists and musicians in general) are middle to upper class because of the connections, opportunities and free time their wealth allows.

Look at Frankie Cosmos, for example - she's literally the heir to millions, but is propped up as this DIY working class hero by the media because she rakes in money. Alternatively, you can look at how Mac DeMarco clones have started popping up left and right since that whole "movement" has been commercialised.

They're popping up as they know they can earn $$$ out of gullible white people who, for some reason, identify with anything that has the slightest whiff of "counter culture" associated with it, even if that whiff is coming right out of a marketer's asshole.

True suffering is not known.

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If having rich parents automatically means your life is free from suffering why are there so many coke addict trust fund kids that were raised by the nanny

Turning yourself and your entire life into an affectation is very popular among a certain breed of bored and self-absorbed rich people, bored and self-absorbed rich young people in particular. Everything is wonderful and everything is cute and everything is twee and oh, we are young and beautiful and the world stands at our feet.

It's highly nauseating. Your local jobless football hooligans make for more pleasant and tolerable company than these people.

How is being raised by a nanny suffering?

How is it not? Think of the questions an intelligent kid asks themselves when they only see their dad once a month

Who is this qt?

Clairo is pretty and she has a nice singing voice+ everyone likes lofi these days and it's relatively easy to produce. Her being attractive is 50% of her success I think.

No different than modern pop stars, really. There isn't much difference between Clairo and, say, someone like Rihanna. Both artists have a shallow and heavily artificial style of music directed at specific markets. I just wish this "lofi pop" movement wasn't so disingenuous.

that's not in any way comparable to actual suffering

>there's a clear definition of what 'suffering' is and people can't say they're suffering if they don't meet the criteria
And here I was thinking one's idea of suffering would be relative to how well off they are. Of course you can always say "boo hoo, look at the starving kids in wartorn countries" but that's just stupid. The fact that someone somewhere is going through something 'objectively' worse doesn't invalidate your own problems.

More painful than losing a girlfriend which is the extent of suffering of all your favorite artists

Who has that picture of her butt? I remember someone posting a link to her tumblr a while back

i never said it invalidates anyone's suffering but saying that some rich kid being raised by a nanny and some kid with no parents going through foster homes and being abused is in the same ballpark is stupid

nice trips satan but i dont think that was her butt

It's not in the same ballpark from an impartial standpoint but the kid who's used to having an extremely shitty life might not feel much worse about it than how a spoilt brat feels about not being pampered for once. Perceived suffering against external circumstances is not a linear relationship.

She deleted the tumblr.

Please sharing trips with you, but did she really?
Did anyone save that picture? I need this guys
I thought it was hers, why else would she post it?

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it's just a generic female butt, does it seriously give people a bigger boner just because (they think) it belongs to someone they approve of?

That definitely looks like her
Thanks bud

There is something else entirely where her tumblr used to be. It was down at some point.
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yes

t. rock hard

that's trash though

Fuck off

Who claimed it's in the same ballpark? What's with your pain olympics complex anyway? Jealous you don't have any real problems like us real people?

I think Clairo is a bad example of this. If her parents actually wanted to help her music career they would have hired a producer yet her music is clearly made by just her.

I'm suffering and I can't make music.

Well they did hire all the shills making these threads.

That has more with her being a cute female.

that's the ultimate form of marketing steroids innit

I would argue that you don't need intense suffering, just pain and the capacity for introspection

Ok so justin bieber, nsync, and backstreet boys dont count then?

what, are you saying Justin Bieber isn't a cute female?

Bad production and the idea that she did it herself makes it more endearing and adds to the aesthetic

Hit the nail on the head.

Rich kids appropriating poverty. Real lo-fi music was made out of necessity, the lack of funds didn't allow for expensive studio recording so they made do with 4 tracks and other inexpensive methods that usually sounded bad.

It's this generation's version of rich white guys playing the blues. Just vultures picking at the corpse of better men.

>Your local jobless football hooligans make for more pleasant and tolerable company than these people.
More interesting as people, and make better music, cause I'd rather listen to fucking Oasis than whatever Pitchfork endorsed reddit/tumblr approved indie shit these people seem to love.

>she has a nice singing voice
she sings every note flat how the fuck is that nice

but John Maus is actually fantastic

Honestly I just take solace in the fact that they are probably more mentally disturbed than I am. Artists like Grimes and Lil Peep only confirm this.

I like music and there's a fantasy in my head that one day I would have a career as a professional musician, or even just to be able to regularly perform a set in front of a receptive public crowd, but part of me really doubts that Steven Tyler feels as much life satisfaction as Mike the Lawyer or Greg the Surgeon when all is said and done. My own career ambitions are political, so we'll see where it ends up.

Yo fuckin same

If a guy or a nasty ass roastie sang like she they'd be a cringefest desu

I like the tambre. Her voice is unique compared to a lot of other female singers. (I.E. features in N.F. tracks and EDM)

what a horrible example.

Pre-wife Thom yorke

A few things, mostly revolving around time. Most rich kids will inevitably have more time to try out the chance to make music without it being too harmful. That said, this board has a bit of a hatred against people richer than them. Suffering isn't necessary to make great music, but creativity and dedication - all things which require long times to be "taught" - very much are, and making use of a cultural portfolio is as well. Unfortunately most people don't have any of those.

>I like the tambre
listen to more indie she has a dime a dozen voice except worse since she's tone deaf

Nobody seeks out suffering or trauma for themselves except for pretentious attention seeking reasons. These musicians aren't lesser people or artists for staying in their lane. It may be relatively shallow music but think about its target audience.

idk i know some very kind and genuine people who haven’t been through that much. it’s correlated for sure, but it’s not a definite thing

I picked a random image, John Maus is an amazing artist.

They don't have to go out and get jobs. So they make "music" instead.

>poor college student
you have to be rich or retarded to go to college

Jesus you really don't like clairo

>So they make "music" instead.
but ive released more music and spent probably more time than most of these bedroom indie stars and i can hardly get anyone to even listen to me.

that's because you should probably kill yourself

Early Bob Dylan

actually trauma is counterproductive

99% of successful artists are middle class and pampered with 0 trauma

i hate her

social media and the artists aesthetic has almost become intertwined with the music. so if they have a good insta feed and make decent music they'll get popular

just my two cents

lol none of u are shit

>gullible white people
this is all there is to it really.

>tfw the worst thing that happened to you is your childhood dogs dying and moving as a kid
>tfw no interesting life experiences or significant suffering so you can't create art of value

anyone else know this feel? Is it weird to want to suffer a bit?

Just be genuine user

I mean, having an abusive alcoholic mother and a very distant disabled father who split at a young age and moving at least 5 times a year, being poor and attempting suicide is all compelling and shit but its wasted on me not being particularly creative.

just another reason im a shitter then

didnt mozart have a pretty fine life?

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if u read this ur cool :)
the reason I made this music video was to actually help myself. on the day i made this, my hair was greasy, my skin was bad, i had nothing to wear, and i didn't want to leave bed. i had just woken up in this video and you can definitely tell (lol) i felt really ugly but realized that it's perfectly okay to feel that way/have those types of days.
the song is about a relationship i had where i felt I needed to be the perfect girl for another person.. whether that's wearing makeup, doing my hair, wearing things they like, or even changing the way i speak/WHEN i speak.
so,
i felt that the only way i could make this video was to have a lot of fun looking disgusting and not caring at all ! it's okay to have flaws and it's okay to embrace them and it's okay to be silly and stupid. you all might already know this, but i'm happy that i know this now

Who is this qt pie

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Indie rock has always been the trustfund genre par excelance. I consider robert pollard and the 90s indie rockers to be among the vultures as well, these people grew up in prosperous white suburbs during the height of american prosperity, it was contrived then and it is contrived now

>they think an artist's life has any effect on their creative ability

nice trips

triple 6 too very edgy

how is she so cute bros?

>ywn have a cutie lowfi bedroom pop-making gf

Much better than watching your dad beat your mom user, fucking trust me. It's been years and I'd rather you not experience shit like that. It's like a video in my mind.

She's ugly in everything except this video

this

>pop artists with wealthy parents

Reminds me of Rebecca Black, also this:

Although there's been a lot of great musicians who didn't go through much trauma, you are correct that they are inferior people

Spotted an actual retard

I had worse things happen to me as a kid, but nothing that bad like poverty, abusive parents, etc. Nothing I would consider that bad happened to me until the past couple of years.

And let me tell you something. I'm not a musician, but I do write quite a bit. And my writing prior to the last couple of years? Utter dogshit compared to what I'm writing now. I may be a tense, anxious wreck now but my short story ideas are a lot more interesting to other people now.

Trent Reznor. Worst thing that happened to him is that he got called a faggot in college.

incel

she working on a fucking unibrow there?

what a nice butte

Fuck off.

Ok Trent. Care to tell me how hard it was for you?

Well, going to college makes you poor, so he's technically right

>take some vague concept like "true suffering" and place it outside of the "achievable" range

wow bro you're fucking like so deep right now, have another toke