Their master has left them, and I've gone with him. Farewell autists, I'm so those Hispanic natural conservatives will vote to shrink the size of the state.
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Who says that? Libertarianism is known for letting people have different opinions.
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>Who says that? Libertarianism is known for letting people have different opinions.
The US Libertarian Party is staunchly pro immigration. That's probably who he is talking about. Most ancaps are similarly blind to the effects of government subsidized immigration and refuse to demonize it like they do taxes, welfare, and corporate subsidies.
>molyneux
>master of Libertarianism
>philosopher
Memes aside, what did Stefan Molyneux mean by this? Is he suggesting on immigration policy?
Be patient with me, I'm still trying to catch up to the 4D chess Donald Trump is playing.
It's just him trying to justify keeping spics out. In other words, build the wall.
What does Leorio have to do with anything?
who do you think pays for immigrants' welfare?
Fuck you and him, lying shilldogs.
Only in your fevered brain where anything other than building a wall and manning it with killer robots is 'pro-immigration.'
In reality the platform calls for making the process to get *work permits* and comply with immigration law easier (it's crazy complicated just like the IRS code is) and then quit giving anyone second chances.
Fucking shills everywhere today man, what's with this?
libertarians are generally ok with globalism and completely free trade/outsourcing, because they feel like lower prices=everyone is better off. they're also okay with mexicans coming in here and ruining everything because they work for nothing
>Molyneux
>Master of Libertarianism
LOL
Show me a single libertarian that ever said illegals should get citizenship.
You know Trump is going to lose, right?
i'm getting over my stormfag phase and leaning towards libertarianism but i still can't agree with open borders.
>unless you're an open border sellout dedicated to seeing America looted of all its jobs, you're a shill
ok
Ever think to consider the reason some people oppose you guys is because they don't like the way you want to utterly ruin their country?
>suddenly uneducated mexican are going to take every job!!!
perhaps if you didn't have the iq of some mudhut beaner you wouldn't be so worried.
When people consistently attribute parties to the LP that the LP does not and has never taken shill is one of the few reasonable explanations.
And don't tell me you haven't noticed the flood of bait-sliders today? Shillary and the no-funs brigade are out in force today.
You want to know what's going on? Their game is divide and conquer, just like it's always been, and you are simply horny to be divided.
>Masters in history
>theater fag
>never been published
>"""""philosopher"""""
Libertarianism has some good core beliefs but the vast majority of people behind it are utterly incompetent and retarded
Honestly, republicans aren't that great as Sup Forums make them out to be and Democrats in THE CURRENT YEAR are just failures of human beings
You know maybe monarchies aren't so bad
Beltway libertarians like Reason and Cato dominate the movement these days and the best of the real libertarians all left for the alt-right. It really is dead. Even Rothbard himself, the greatest liberjewautist of all time and founder of the movement, abandoned them and went fash.
>Libertarianism has some good core beliefs but the vast majority of people behind it are utterly incompetent and retarded
That's nice and all, but none of what you wrote is an argument. Just thought I'd left you know! :-)
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illegals wouldn't come here if there was no welfare and hospitals could let them die in the street
Yes they would because they'd still get paid more than in Mexico, they'd come in, sweep up all the low skill jobs and criminality would go through the roof
Yes they would because it's better than Mexico and there would be plenty of $3/hr jobs for them in a libertarian paradise. This line of argument is shit.
Libertarianism will always destroy itself by simply adhering to its own principles.
Ethno-nationalist-libertarianism when.
Sounds like a contradiction in terms
Not if you're a consequentialist.
For NAP autists though, yes it is a contradiction.
they have already stopped even with welfare so I doubt it would go up.
If you haven't realized the border is currently open. there are hundred mile stretches with no fence or people around.
Yes, and as we can see the US working class is in such a good state
After the border is open to literally anyone, not just Mexico they will get even wealthier!
We do have a degree of border security though. Gotta give credit where it's due and Obungo has at least tried.
Now we just need to eject the ones already here including the legal spics and you might have a chance in hell of producing a libertarian society.
There is no fence and no guards, you cant get more open than that.
And the government is currently subsidizing them to live here.
They stopped rising after 2006 when legislation was implemented to build a wall and to tighten border patrols.
>Molymeme
>Philosopher
and Sup Forumstard could call himself a philosopher then
Its easy enough.
Free market policies apply to a nations selected ethnic loyalties, with secured borders, and a differing set of rules for those outside the national ethnicity, as harsh or as lenient as the native ethnic members wish it to be.
Like if white people were allowed to behave like israel.
You seem to be misunderstanding, the border wont just be open to Mexicans, it'll be open to literally every shithole on the planet from South America to Africa
>Philosopher
The word you really want is philosophaster.
the border security is not stopping anyone who really wants to come here and live.
why don't you think for a second about why so many mexicans sudden decided to come to the US.
We didn't suddenly lower border security in the 90s, but we did start increasing welfare around the country.
source on that claim.
An Open border is an open border you retard, it already doesn't matter where they come from.
>Their master has left them
Our master is and forever will be Rothbard.
Also
>Molyneux
>philosopher
He recycles philosophy works for a living.
>master
K e k
>this is about jobs
enjoy the 90% of illegals who are currently on some form of goverment assistance
enjoy expanding goverment
inb4
>w-we'll j-just get rid of those programs
libretarians will never get anything other than 100% open boarder through the legislature. You are litteral autists playing into the hands of liberals. You are literally less intelligent than the average democrat you outwitted fuck
Nigger please, have you seen the libertarian debate, they were literally all sucking each other's dick at how open borders they were.
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you realize you cannot refuse service to a hispanic?
the state has already opened your borders
>en.wikipedia.org
>The Republican Party's 2012 platform highlighted the fact that the rest of the double fencing was never built and stated that "The double-layered fencing on the border that was enacted by Congress in 2006, but never completed, must finally be built."[7] The Washington Office on Latin America, claims on its Border Fact Check site that the extremely high cost of complying with the Secure Fence Act's mandate-estimated at US$4.1 billion, or more than the Border Patrol’s entire annual budget of US$3.55 billion- was the main reason that it was not fulfilled.[8] In short, Congress failed to continue to fund the project past the initial $1.2 billion procured, in order to finish building the fence.
the bill did nothing and failed to even be completed like most government projects.
Holy SHIT Stefan Molymeme is on a roll lately.
>le no self-awareness man.png
>mfw I'm going the other way
>Fuck you and him, lying shilldogs.
>Stefan Molyneux
>Shilldog
You libertarians are so blinded by ideology it makes you retarded. Stefan Molyneux is as pro-Trump as Sup Forums.
Well ok, I guess you won't be voting for trump sens he will never be able to get anything through the legislature.
How about everybody in the Libertarian Party.
Pick your platform year
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1976 Libertarian Party Platform
>We should return to ... recognizing the right to unrestricted travel and immigration.
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1980 Libertarian Party Platform
17. Immigration
>We hold that human rights should not be denied or abridged on the basis of nationality. We condemn massive roundups of Hispanic-Americans and others by the federal government in its hunt for individuals not possessing required government documents. Undocumented non-citizens should not be denied the fundamental freedom to labor and to move about unmolested. Furthermore, immigration mus not be restricted for reasons of race, religious or political creed, or sexual preference.
>We therefore call for the elimination of all restriction on immigration, the abolition of the Immigration and Naturalization Service and the Border Patrol, and a declaration of full amnesty for those people who have entered the country illegally. We oppose government welfare payments to non-citizens just as we oppose government welfare payments to all other persons. We welcome Indochinese and other refugees to our shores, and condemn the efforts of U.S. government officials to induce Indochinese governments to create a new "Berlin wall" that would keep them captive.
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>a declaration of full amnesty for those people who have entered the country illegally
libertarians will have support from noone in the legislature. trump will have the party. Neck yourself you retarded manchild
libertarians are Koch shills and have never been anything else.
Libertarianism is the idea that people should generally be left alone by the government. That's an idea that will never die.
I don't see anything about citizenship or voting rights.
Fail.
I wish there was a way to set up a fascist regime that when once the country was culturally homogenous dissolve into a nearly stateless libertarian government.
Right now western countries need fascism but that always lasts 50 years and then devolves into some sort of terrible mess, the society gets too open and hedonistic and the circle continues. I want fascism for 15 years while we fix the problem and then have it increasingly step back.
That being said there would still need to be strict borders and immigration control even after it was drawn back to ensure demographic change doesn't disrupt the cultural status quo.
Then again all civilizations die eventually maybe I'm just trying prolong the inevitable.
It's left libertarianism
It's getting really fucking annoying to point out how libertarianism works
It doesn't require open borders
It doesn't require the state to do nothing
It isnt the absence of laws
It isnt mutually exclusive with nationalism
Left libertarianism is a cancer and currently more popular than right libertarian
But.....
Left libertarianism isn't really a thing, all it is democrats 20 years ago, that's it. Edgy dude weeds and "not" anarchists
Left libertarianism is a fad that isn't logically coherent
Trump is and has always been an establishment candidate, you gullible idiot.
>trump will have the party
the party that has universally denounced him as racist. Trump is hated by the republican legislature, but sure go ahead and keep being delusional.
I really don't care who you vote for, trump and hillary are equally just as bad.
hahah this is some serious jewiness
Yea.
That's why every media outlet, celebrity and even members of his own party are trying to sink him.
fuck off irish you dumb cuck noone thinks libertardianism is good other than democrats who are trying to win another election currently.and need something to drain votes.
Is this guy clinically retarded?
If trump loses the libertarian vote for being an NSA big government shill. That is his own fucking fault.
>the party that has universally denounced him as racist
can you name 10 people who are active politicians and members of the party for me? Seems to me that you are so easily outsmarted not only by the media and democrats that I doubt you even know your own representatives let alone remember basic agitprop that affected you so.
>immigrate to a liberal country
>complain about immigrants and liberals
Modern "philosophy" ladies and gents.
do you have any proof of this Mr.conspiratard?
>philosopher
he's not referring to himself is he
>irish?
Once Libertarians realize border crossing is aggression and invasion, then maybe they'll realize killing Mexicans is good. But they want that cheap labor so they're as much cucks as Neocons are.
You going to back up your NSA government shill claim anytime soon you dumb shitcunt?
In Gary Johnson's lolbertarian utopia, what's stopping me from forming a fuckhuge cartel of warbois and smegma crazies and using it to raid villages that were not smart enough to pay for top protection?
Proof of what? That trump wants to increase funding to NSA and the military? He said it in ever debate.
>Trump said Tuesday that he would be "fine" with restoring provisions of the Patriot Act to allow for the bulk data collection, something candidates such as former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush have also called for that was banned with the passage of the USA Freedom Act, which Cruz supported.
"As far as I'm concerned, that would be fine," Trump said.
>thehill.com
video.foxnews.com
haha you fucking retard, you must not follow trum at all since he has Supported the NSA multiple times in on tv and in interviews.
You asserted that trump is some kind of giant fucking conspiracy you left libratarian fuck. Back up your fucking conspiratard claims for once you intellectually vacant fuck.
if republicans are so concerned with spics taking jobs, why did they bus them over here in droves for the cheap labor
> why did they bus them over here in droves for the cheap labor
[citation needed]
Are you a complete fucking retard? I said he supports the NSA, and he has publicly said so multiple times.
You fuck you're not squirming your way out of this one. You left libertarian fakes aren't getting away with this shit anymore. Substantiate your fucking claim. You slimy anti gun supporting pro welfare state fake fuck
>trump likes the nsa
>no he doesn't
>wants bulk collection
>consistently talks about the government fixing the problems
>has NEVER spoke about the limits of the executive
How can trumpcucks be so delusional?
>Molyneux
>Philosopher
Oh, phew, only 12M It's no longer an issue.
who are you quoting you dumb cuck. try again you fair weather libertarian new fag.
Not a single libertarian approves of open borders with welfare benefits.
> Stefan Molyneux
> philosopher
hahaha
Milton has a cogent response to this problem, desu senpai
thats exactly what would happen. you could form your cartel hombres and come conquer our cities.
>libertarian newfag
>Fairweather
Lol, fucking trumpcucks
I just linked and article quoting him in a debate about supporting the NSA and I linked Video of a phone interview on fox of him Supporting the NSA.
Did you just get BTFO so hard you are ignoring reality now?
except for their current fucking candidate gary fucking Johnson who is not only pro gun control but pro open boarders and anti hatespeech aka fuck free speech we big government liberal;s now
>lol
fuck off back to deviant art
Of course they would. They would come to USA to sell drugs, take your jobs, resort to criminality...
>Did you just get BTFO so hard you are ignoring reality now?
where do you think you are
And there you go again trying to insist that you aren't implying trump is some kind of conspiracy by muh nsa big govt boggyman. Fucking neck yourself you left libertarian cunt. try fucking harder you cuck
>johnson who is not only pro gun control
>anti hate speech
so not only are you a complete retard but an absolute hypocrite making up lies with no source.
Welp, Styx officially endorsed Trump. The Trump Train is expanding!!!!!!
If drugs were legal, then what would they peddle that corporations couldn't beat them at?
>Libertarianism presupposes open borders