Why do people seem to like Iran here, more than other mudslimes shittholes? It’s literally the worst place on earth, always denigrating «western world, USA, Israel, UK, France, etc.», they want to be nuclearly armed and they’re always threatening us and feeding conflicts in Syria, Yemen, Lebanon, Israel, Bahrein, etc.
The only good point of this country is to make mudslimes killing each other.
Again today: dailymail.co.uk
This fucking disgusting islamic dictatorship needs to get nuked.
Is that what the western media told you?
I bet you think Assad must be toppled too.
>The only good point of this country is to make mudslimes killing each other.
Then maybe we should keep them in business.
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You don’t need to read western media to see that Iranian people are acting like mudslimes animals.
Because Shia Muslims are better then Sunni Muslims.
Probably because they're not Arabs
>Why do people seem to like Iran here, more than other mudslimes shittholes?
because they belong to the least death culty faction of Islam, so they look good compared to the Saudis
Who gives a shit about some flags?
Also they have good very reasons to hate America:
- Destroyed their democracy
- Installed a brutal dictator who tortured and murdered countless thousands of innocents
- Supported Saddam Hussein and supplied him with chemical weapons what killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iranians.
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Sure
"A man can have sexual pleasure from a child as young as a baby. However, he should not penetrate vaginally, but sodomising the child is acceptable. If a man does penetrate and damage the child then, he should be responsible for her subsistence all her life. This girl will not count as one of his four permanent wives and the man will not be eligible to marry the girl’s sister… It is better for a girl to marry at such a time when she would begin menstruation at her husband’s house, rather than her father’s home. Any father marrying his daughter so young will have a permanent place in heaven"
"A man can have sex with animals such as sheep, cows, camels and so on. However, he should kill the animal after he has his orgasm. He should not sell the meat to the people in his own village, but selling the meat to a neighbouring village is reasonable"
[«Tahrirolvasyleh", fourth edition, Qom, Iran, 1990
He repeated the same kind of fatwas since. Shias are disgusting pigs.
Because Iran doesn't ship off it's shitty 'people' to the west or fund an ever increasing amount of mosques in western countries.
Totally false. Islamic dictatorship, pedophilia are going on in Iran too.
and the only paramilitary forces Iran funds are Hamas and Hezbollah, while the Saudis have their fingers in ISIS, Boko Haram, the Taliban, and all other delightful manifestations of the religion of peace
Because many people are quite misinformed and only do so because it's against MSM.
Hating Israel and liking Iran are not not mutually exclusive and that's what most people on here don't get.
Also, because God Emperor Putin (pbuh) does business with them.
Based netherlands knows what's up.
Godspeed from a iranian living in sweden.
They're not the terrorists who want to murder my family.
Say all you want, Jamal, but you are a sick fuck here and once Wilders gets elected all your murderous kind will get deported or gassed.
The real question is. Why does the media and American government try to paint Iran as a boogeyman? They have been getting fucked with for a long time but don't retaliate and all the terrorists coming out of the ME are sunnis and jews.
Israel and SA are the real threats to security.
The Houthis too. Iran destabilizes the whole Middle East with these terrorist groups. At least Saudis stopped to fund terrorism officially. Of course there are still a lot of sponsors and support from the population.
Both sunnis and shias are trash anyway. Just the myth which says «shias are okay compared to sunnis» is totally stupid.
That brutal dictator had the same vision/methods/tactics that based Assad has today.
He was pretty much fighting a similar war that Syria is today.
America and Iran used to be friends.
It all changed when the Iranian people wanted to share in the oil wealth.
>tfw we never should have listened to the limeys and overthrown Mosaddegh
>tfw Iran will never have a leader like the last Shah ever again
That’s basically it. Without the support of Putin (saw) Iran would be nothing and hated by everyone.
Iran doesn't have a Sunni majority.
They could easily become a democracy if America allowed it.
>- Supported Saddam Hussein and supplied him with chemical weapons what killed hundreds of thousands of innocent Iranians.
You might want to point at the French
They were buddy buddy with Saddam, even going in to the 6 Days War
>Iran destabilizes the whole Middle East with these terrorist groups.
hamas and hezbollah are fighting israel.
Hezbollah are protecting the lebanons
get ur facts straight u fucking dirty frog.
you clearly have no idea what you're talking about.
The chemical weapons came from America via a Dutch arms dealer, this has been proven.
Make Persia great again.
These faggots need to denounce islam
Hezbollah is dividing Lebanons and causing conflicts, supporting Assad and feeding the war in Syria, and bombing Israel like retards just to complain when they receive missiles.
Yep so Americans subverted Iranian democracy and installed a theocracy. Despite that, Iran is a lot safer and more tolerant of non-muslims than the sunni countries. According to my Persian friends you can even be a western degenerate as long as you don't flaunt it in public.
I totally get where they stand and why they have those views on the West, don't get me wrong.
But to paint them as nonthreatening/innocent is just factually wrong.
Their stance/attitude is basically just to create a balance of power in the region - having said that they're not to be trusted and Russia's the only reason they're actually staying line.
That's not to ignore that the Saudi's also a play a role in this.
Go read up about the revolution and the years before and compare the Shah to Hafez and Bashar al-Assad - a lot of similarities.
>iranian living in sweden.
The memes are real
Neat, didn't know that
I do know however that the French did send them a decent amount of military hardware, and supported them through the Six Days War
>Hezbollah is dividing Lebanons and causing conflicts
not the case based on what i've heard from the lebanse
>supporting Assad and feeding the war in Syria,
Because Syria are allies with iran, you nuthead. Syria was one of the countries aiding iran when Saddam invaded
>and bombing Israel like retards just to complain when they receive missiles
israel dindunuffin amirite kike?
>Iran doesn't have a Sunni majority.
While the Shia are generally more "secular" in certain aspects I'm not an ignorant Westerner that falls for the Sunni/Shia propaganda.
Sunnis are worse, but Shia are also extremely corrupt and provactive.
I'm not denying America's interference in their history, but Iran under the Shah was extremely better than Iran under the Ayatollah.
Not undermining the iron fist in which he ruled (he could have done a lot better - so could have the Assads).
Don't compare Iran and Syria of today - they're totally different - regardless of them being Shia friendly
>Muh Iran is a good country but I’d rather flee it
hey man, can you point out what terrorist organization are they funding or when did they attack us? our great ally saud arabia actually does these things you mention.
Give me good reasons why Iran had to get involved with Lebanon.
Give me a good reason why Sunni Palestinians were innocent and not to blame for Lebanon's shitty conditions of today.
never get sick of seeing that hero in the pic
kek
>Iran under the Shah was extremely better than Iran under the Ayatollah.
For the elite.
For the common Iranians it was reversed.
And Shia really are better than Sunni, no matter how much you wan to deny it.
>what is geopolitical intrests
1. trading at the medittearian sea
2. lebanese are shia majority
>Give me a good reason why Sunni Palestinians were innocent and not to blame for Lebanon's shitty conditions of today
Haven't done my homework on that so i will not discuss it.
Yea they’re better, in a certain way.
Muhammad would have been jealous.
>preventing sharia law taking over Lebanon
that's a good thing
>Supporting Assad against turkroach, jew and sunni scum
that's a good thing
>Defending a sovereign country's right to self-determination
that's a good thing
>bombing Israel
Haven't heard that lately, how do you know it wasn't ISIS? oh right because ISIS only attacks enemies of US/Israel.
>2. lebanese are shia majority
No. Hezbollah is just feeding religious tensions, Lebanon isn’t a shia country at all.
When did I deny that?
Read what I wrote again - better, but not to be praised/worshipped like a fanboy.
Not only for the elite, but for the middle and "upper" working class too.
Would you consider America of today as only catering for the elite?
As I said before conditions could have been better, but to go from Shah to Ayatollah is one big jump and personal freedom/rights were completely lost.
Again, as I said earlier, I do not think the slightest that Sunnis are better - shift of power would be the same result though.
>tfw sharia law legislates in Iran
>tfw Assad is just a dictator who represents a very minority of the population (I prefer him to jihadis scums too tho, but I still recognize this fact)
>tfw Palestine isn’t even a country but a terrorist entity
>tfw ISIS just claimed that they want to wipe out Israel again
Iranians seem to assimilate comparatively well and become preductive once they immigrate to the West. Also Iranians in Iran have a reputation (Despite theocratic government) of being fairly liberal. Think I remember seeing they have quite high IQ on average (considerably higher than the Arabs and Turks that surround them) though can't remember where I read this.
Also Iran/Persia has genuinely proud pre-Muslim history and independent identity and it's quite impressive they managed to maintain this and their separate language when similarly great civilizations (the proper (Coptic) Egyptians for example) were completely Arabized.
Frankly I've never really understood why they remain loyal to a foreign (Arab) religion which was imposed on their Zoroastrian ancestors by force - given how proud they are of their Persian identity and pre Muslim history.
>t. jamal
Of course «Iran» (Persia actually) has a glorious past, but currently it just sucks.
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>Persia actually
Iran was always called Iran. Persia is just what western people called Iran, but it was always called Iran by the Iranians.
en.wikipedia.org
Don't even bother, OP is a retard who havent done his homwork on anything he mentioned in this thread.
Read into the Palestinian influence of Lebanon (the Hezbollah/Iranian presence).
These are all legitimate points and concerns you raise/mention - but it's not as black and white as the all sides what you to think.
Lebanon's got a massive Christian population (not sure if it's still got the most Christians out of all ME countries).
There's never been a concrete census done to see the amount of Christians, but some have argued there's always been between 40-50% while the Muslim community has always been split (since the Palestinian influx).
At the end of the day I'd prefer that Iran get given a chance to prove itself and that a tighter leashe should be put on the Saudis and their involvement with terrorism.
Their stupid government aside, Iran is Ba'at, a progressive type of islam, most iranians are indistinguishable from westerners both in skin color and habits/behaviour.
In the shithole that is the middle east, they are likely the last bastion of "ok", Syria used to be, until Hillary and Israel decided it was good to fuck their shit up. (read her leaked emails)
>high IQ
indeed
Syrian Islamists aren’t supporting Israel. Thwart scheme
What are you even talking about Ali?
>Israel supporting ISIS and Al-Qaeda.
Need some sauce with this happy meal
Is it Arab tier suck? Beyond the mid-20th century politics (Western interference, overthrow of Shah etc) I don't know much about modern Iran desu. Just had the impression life wasn't so bad despite theocratic government.
are you new? not gonna spoon feed you about something so easily found, like ISIS leaders being sent to israeli hospitals to recover and get back to fighting
They were treating wounded al-Nusra fighters that came to their borders.
I (((think))) they've stopped since the Israeli Druze protested and actually lynched+killed two rebel fighters that were been carried into ambulence by IDF.
It's al-Nusra, not ISIS.
Still shocking.
Did you watch that video of ex-Mossad on Al-jazeera?
How he would treat rebels but not Hezbollah kek - didn't make much sense.
People are arrested for nothing: dailymail.co.uk
Protestation is still strictly contained and repressed.
Sharia law is going on, so women are dressed like trash bags and you’re imprisoned if you say something who could be considered as a critic of islam.
They want to nuclearize, obviously for bellicose goals, Iran is always shouting against USA, UK, Israel… the «evil Western World».
Iran is funding shia’s terrorist groups in Lebanon, Yemen, Israel, supporting a dictatorship in Syria.
Iran is supporting pedophilia, banning opposition, etc. Dictatorship + Sharia = complete shitthole.
Even Russians seemed to be reluctant towards Iranians recently.
>It's al-Nusra, not ISIS.
no different. plus, al-nusra has been on record saying they work with and negotiate with isis
Kremlinbots
Accept it Sup Forums you know they came here. We have the documents.
Al-nusra is a organisation created by a ISIS member.
>Did you watch that video of ex-Mossad on Al-jazeera?
>How he would treat rebels but not Hezbollah kek - didn't make much sense.
wut? hit me up with link, famalam.
You musn't really take those anti-Israel/UK/USA chants that seriously.
It's more of a metaphor than an actual threat (from the citizens that is).
At the moment it seems like only Putin has the power to actually bring some stability to the region and bring these countries together for dialogue/solutions.
Considering the fact that the current Iranian power is supposedly «moderate» I’ll take it seriously. The religious censors have still a major influence on the country. Regime’s propaganda is working on the uneducated population.
It is civil law system based on sharia
Actually the majority of Syrians support Assad, if you look at a map of Syria you will see that anywhere that actually has people living in it is pro-Assad. If this wasn't the case they wouldn't need to bring in mercs from every islamist shithole to overthrow Assad.
I don't give a shit about palestinians and Israel has the right of conquest. It's Israel's hypocrisy that pisses me off, they cry about terrorism while committing and supporting terrorist acts in other countries.
Never gonna happen, Israel patches up "moderate beheaders" in Syria and buys ISIS oil. They are in cahoots.
France is worse than Iran, plus.. never forget where Khomeini came from (and was protected by).
France.
Complete difference, not only in end-goal but a lot of the ideologies too.
I'm not downlplaying al-Nusra (al-Qaeda) at all, but to group the two together just because they had an agreement not to fight each other when fighting the SAA is not accurate.
By the same token one would say that FSA and ISIS are no different because they too have had a similar "relationship".
al-Julani is still controlled by Zawahri.
And that doesn't necessarily mean they're the same.
They should all still be taken out at the end of the day.
Fuck off /sg/ niggers, get some sources and get off pooty poos manlet dick.
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Putin will probably be closer to the USA if Trump is elected. He likes Netanyahu too. If everything goes well Russia will gradually neglect Iran.
>Iran > Saudi Arabia
that's why.
DELETE THIS!
>tfw neo-pol totally fell for this saudi puppet
Hollande received Rohani in Paris and congratulated him too. With the socialists cunts in power in France you can’t expect anything but a dhimmi attitude with both shias and sunnis.
I'd ideally not have that happen - if they neglect Iran you can only expect stronger rhetoric and attitudes from them.
We've got to get to a point where Saudi doesn't interfere and let Iran have a chance to show that they don't either as a result.
Look if Iran does develop nuclear weapons and starts to threat then by all means get all to unite against them - until then it's about developing some trust.
Ron Paul had a great approach to the situation - try watching his take on things.
>Who gives a shit about some flags?
Everyone should. Burning flags is not a trivial action.
>allowing someone in your country to talk about business deal is the same as granting someone the highest honour, someone who is from the country that all islamic terrorism is tied to (saudi arabia)
are you purposefully trying to act retarded?
Iran is the "jew" everyone keeps mistaking Israelis for. Ishmael is still jealous of Issac.
Iran is a dictatorship, when Rohani went to Europe we had to cover painting and statues which were showing the face of women. We should refuse to talk with him.
We sold weapons to Israel too, especially military jets. We also helped them to get their nukes. We sold weapons to every country in the Middle East, it's just about the money
>Iran is a dictatorship
lol, Iran has a more real democracy than the USA. wtf are you talking about?
>when Rohani went to Europe we had to cover painting and statues which were showing the face of women.
Rouhani, and Iran never requested that, this is just something the french cucks did because they're stupid. Iran should have been outraged.
It's unfortunate that /sg/ has gone to shits lately, but once summer's over (and if the war picks up steam) it should be back to normal again.
So? Iran can yowl if they want, they’re not dangerous as long as they aren’t nuclearized. If they move too much Israel (and we) will nuke them.
Iran is creating conflicts in the Middle East, so Saudis are obviously upset. They can’t negotiate in this situation. As soon as Iran is down we can focus on the sunnis and the consensus will probably be even easier to find. Iranians aren’t a serious military threat yet, don’t let them become one.
They did it in Italy too. Are you trying to be ironic or are you just completely dumb? Look at the Iranian women and their rights.
>le nuclear meme
are you here just for the summer? I sure hope so.
Iran has an energy crisis, and it needs nuclear energy, like everyone else does. If Iran wanted a nuke, it would have bought it many years ago.
This nuclear bullshit is just an israeli rhetoric to keep Iran isolated from the world.
Israel has German made submarines, off the shore of Iran, armed with loads of nukes, aimed at Iran 24/7.
>They did it in Italy too
once again, this was not requested by Iran, and Rouhani didn't even know about it. When italy and france do something stupid for no reason, and not at the request of Iran, you should fault them you cuck.
>Look at the Iranian women and their rights.
what rights? you think Iran is Saudi Arabia? kek.
Iran has one of the highest amount of career women in the world. 70% of STEM graduates in Iran are women.
go back to sucking the saudi dick, you fucking retard. all you know is memes, and no facts.
>>Hezbollah is dividing Lebanons and causing conflicts
>not the case based on what i've heard from the lebanse
You didn't talk to many Lebanese, have you ? The Hezbollah is a fucking cancer
I've traveled extensively through Iran for work, and I've never met anyone who was hostile towards foreigners and westerners in general. Random people in small villages who spoke no English went out of their way to be friendly and to give you a good impression of their country. They're pretty chauvinistic but not in an aggressive manner. Many of them openly criticize their government. They love what they can get of American culture. They do hate Israel and Jews but that's it.
Again, it's just to create a balance of power.
I don't think Iran should be as vocal as they are about wiping out Israel though - they've unfortunately had idiotic leadership that's made those stupid remarks (digging the hole themselves at the end of day).
As long as America, Israel and any other country that's allied with them have nukes so will their opposition want them too.
Iran know that if they do have nuclear weapons and they make legitimate threats that not only will America and Israel will attack them, but that Russia will also get involved and try stop them - I don't see anything happening atm.
Also I don't think the Shia are as hectic as Saudi when it comes to such calamities/end-of-days fundamentalists.
Because what is not to love about Qassem Soleimani??
Iran and the persian people are actually top-tier in that region of the world. reasonable, and in tehran the allahu-ackbar is kept to a minimum. it's taboo to be an ultra-muslim.
the government, however, acts like 1980s east germany. they have their own stasi and "rights" are relative to how much of a threat you are to the state.
it's more complicated then "lol they arent saudis you fuck"
France didn't do it though, only Italy did.
You’re just a retarded Iranian immigrant, I never said that I was supporting Saudis. Any islamic country is trash, whatever is they’re shias or sunnis. Don’t you know about the woman who’ve been imprisoned for going to a volley ball match recently? And many other examples? You’re just repeating regimes propaganda.
Iran is the ultimate resistance state. It fearlessly stands up to the US and Israel while everyone else in the world bends over and surrenders all sovereignty.