/r/ing the quote from one of the founding fathers about owning guns equivalent to the standard military issue

/r/ing the quote from one of the founding fathers about owning guns equivalent to the standard military issue.

Penis

"I wish we had the guns they do in 2016, it would've made fighting tyranny so much easier." -George Washington

2nd amendment also referred to cannons.
not just muskets,artillery too.
arms faggot,look them up

here's a thing. it's not the thing you wanted.

but it's a pretty good thing

Fucking half the Navy was privately owned nigger, the argument about muh muskets is invalid.

>ferfucksake we were talking about pamphlets and newspapers, not millions of tweets an hour

"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."
- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783

"I ask who are the militia? They consist now of the whole people, except a few public officers."
- George Mason, Address to the Virginia Ratifying Convention, June 4, 1788

"On every occasion [of Constitutional interpretation] let us carry ourselves back to the time when the Constitution was adopted, recollect the spirit manifested in the debates, and instead of trying [to force] what meaning may be squeezed out of the text, or invented against it, [instead let us] conform to the probable one in which it was passed."
- Thomas Jefferson, letter to William Johnson, 12 June 1823

"The laws that forbid the carrying of arms are laws of such a nature. They disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes.... Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
- Thomas Jefferson, Commonplace Book (quoting 18th century criminologist Cesare Beccaria), 1774-1776

"[I]f circumstances should at any time oblige the government to form an army of any magnitude that army can never be formidable to the liberties of the people while there is a large body of citizens, little, if at all, inferior to them in discipline and the use of arms, who stand ready to defend their own rights and those of their fellow-citizens. This appears to me the only substitute that can be devised for a standing army, and the best possible security against it, if it should exist."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28, January 10, 1788


take your pick

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If that quote was true (Which is really isn't just a meme) then instead of this:

>"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed."

They would have said

>"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear MUSKETS, shall not be infringed."

However it is not muskets.

>Well they didn't think guns would go this far
>Then maybe freedom of speech should be limited to the Printing press

bonus round

"If the representatives of the people betray their constituents, there is then no resource left but in the exertion of that original right of self-defense which is paramount to all positive forms of government, and which against the usurpations of the national rulers, may be exerted with infinitely better prospect of success than against those of the rulers of an individual state. In a single state, if the persons intrusted with supreme power become usurpers, the different parcels, subdivisions, or districts of which it consists, having no distinct government in each, can take no regular measures for defense. The citizens must rush tumultuously to arms, without concert, without system, without resource; except in their courage and despair."
- Alexander Hamilton, Federalist No. 28

"And they are ignorant that the purpose of the sword is to save every man from slavery."
Marcus Annaeus Lucanus Roman poet (A.D. 39-65)

"Honor, justice, and humanity, forbid us tamely to surrender that freedom which we received from our gallant ancestors, and which our innocent posterity have a right to receive from us."
Thomas Jefferson (Declaration of the Causes and Necessities of Taking up Arms, 6 July 1775)

"Firearms stand next in importance to the constitution itself. They are the American people's liberty teeth and keystone under independence … from the hour the Pilgrims landed to the present day, events, occurences and tendencies prove that to ensure peace security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable … the very atmosphere of firearms anywhere restrains evil interference — they deserve a place of honor with all that's good."
George Washington

"The great object is that every man be armed." and "Everyone who is able may have a gun."
Patrick Henry

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense? Where is the difference between having our arms in possession and under our direction and having them under the management of Congress? If our defense be the real object of having those arms, in whose hands can they be trusted with more propriety, or equal safety to us, as in our own hands?"
Patrick Henry

"The constitutions of most of our States assert that all power is inherent in the people; that … it is their right and duty to be at all times armed; … "
Thomas Jefferson

"The supposed quietude of a good man allures the ruffian; while on the other hand arms, like laws, discourage and keep the invader and plunderer in awe, and preserve order in the world as property. The same balance would be preserved were all the world destitute of arms, for all would be alike; but since some will not, others dare not lay them aside … Horrid mischief would ensue were the law-abiding deprived of the use of them."
Thomas Paine

You could just point out how Washington went to go Kick the shit out of the whiskey rebels for refusing to pay taxes then took their guns

Seriously. Washington didn't think the common peasant should have been allowed a weapon that could kill dozens easily hence why he took their shit

/thread

You are a very special kind of stupid.

Except that's exactly what happened. A bunch of crazies refused to pay taxes because of "muh rights " Washington marched on them, took their guns and told them to shut the fuck up.

Don't ever think Washington would be cool with someone owning a artillery cannon or a fucking machine gun. That's stupid. Own a gun yes. Own a crowd killing murder machine. Come on. Come the fuck on. The dude was all about balance and logic. Not muh rights shall be infringed bullshit.

Oh boy. I hope you get the honor of meeting him so he can tell you himself what an idiot you are.

Don't really give a shit about what washington thought teebeeaytch. My opinions on guns are born from my own thoughts and research.

"A free people ought not only to be armed, but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well-digested plan is requisite; and their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories as tend to render them independent of others for essential, particularly military, supplies."
-George Washington

"Military supplies" as in hardcore weaponry. As in guns. Not cannons. Remember he took hardcore weapons in his time. The whisky rebellion best example. "Nope you can't handle this"
Hat tip
That would mean I'd be in heaven... And if you didn't meet him you'd be in hell. Aww you're stupid.

Anyways.

Guns fine. Bazookas, atomic weapons, grenades, machine guns... I'm pretty sure Washington would be like nah. That's fucking crazy

Doesn't really matter what Washington thought when all the founding fathers agreed on the wording of the second amendment.

I missed the phrase in the constitution that says the words written in it may be ignored if anyone supposes that one of the founding fathers was a blithering idiot who couldn't predict technological advancements.

"Among the many interesting objects which will engage your attention, that of providing for the common defence will merit particular regard. To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual means of preserving peace.

A free people ought not only to be armed but disciplined; to which end a uniform and well digested plan is requisite: And their safety and interest require that they should promote such manufactories, as tend to render them independent on others, for essential, particularly for military supplies."

military supplies meaning military supplies.


if you've ever ready anything published before the civil war you'd know the founding fathers intended each individual citizen to be a well trained, well supplied individual for any potential war. Joe would own the cannons, Jim would pass out the rifles, and Jenny would bake them their bread on their way out.

Our first warships were privately owned, for fucks sake.