Are video games the most degenerate hobby in existence? You gain and learn nothing from them...

Are video games the most degenerate hobby in existence? You gain and learn nothing from them. All they do is drain your time and energy, and they mold the worst kind of people.

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It's a social hobby, it can't be degenerate.
It's competitve, it can't be degenerate.
With that logic stacking cups is degenerate, but it isn't

Right? I never understood the appeal. If anything, it would cut into my hobby - collecting big garbage bags filled with dog shit.

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>gamers
>social

I see you got no argument

I can see how it can brainwash a child into being a lazy piece of shit.


But what about shitting on kids whose parents are so degenerate they bought them something pegi18 ? Like GTA v

I'm 27 , I paid some hacker 40$ for a modded acct. And I love the rage I get thrown my way for the online rape. ;)


TFW insurgent up your anus

Why does it matter to you what people occupy their leisure time with?

It can be degenerate. Honestly it depends entirely on the type of games played. Some of the most degenerate people I have ever seen are video game players.

>Implying
I can get history taught to me faggot, its fine I failed Canadian Political and Military history in high school, I can learn it from here.

You don't gain or learn anything from sports. But there are people who get a million dollars a year to hit a ball with a stick.

internet forums like this are possibly worse.

It's just a degenerate game for conversation, gambling with time... only to lose more time as a reward.

Really anything with a screen is inherently degenerate. Purge all tech from your life and you'll be happier.

That said, sage because this is bait, and conservapedia is a parody site made by liberals

>viddy gaems
>hobby

they're a lack of a hobby

Have you ever interacted with a normalfag who spends their free time "binge watching" Jewish propaganda and mindlessly sinking into their couch watching big bang theory and fucking good morning America and "the talk"?

They're fucking drones
They're inhuman

Video games may turn you into an autistic loser but if you say its the worst thing ever you need to reexamine pop culture

They're equivalent, and so is internet browsing like Sup Forums.

All screen consumption is equally degenerate.

The modern brainwash is "TV is bad, Internet/games is good"

when in fact the latter are just TV 2.0 with more illusions of freedom to keep you trapped

it's a shitty peasant hobby, but there are worse ones

>god-tier
outdoor activities (hiking, survival training)
group sports (football, soccer, basketball)
amateur scientist/academic activities (philosophy, history, biology)

>high-tier
highly challenging activities (learning new language, instrument, programming)
individual sports (running, swimming, lifting)
extreme sports (rock climbing, snowboarding)

>mid-tier
patrician entertainment (literature, music, cinema)
mildly challenging activities (photography, writing, woodworking, cooking)

>low-tier
plebeian entertainment (videogames, anime, comics)
non challenging activities (shitposting, watching sports, collecting shit)
individual degeneracy (drinking, smoking weed)

>shit-tier
social degeneracy (partying, loitering, protesting)

Gaming was social back during the 80s when arcade games where mostly in bars or theaters. It was actually viewed as normal, no different from playing a game of pool,foosball or darts. games were acceptable back when vidya games were still regarded as toys, rather than what ever the fuck they're supposed to be today.

You see, Internet and alternative media is how the kikes foment divisions between the older and younger generations.

You have brainwash tailored to different ages in different places but it's all still brainwash,

Parents watch CNN And Fox news and Reality TV which tells them to hate their kids, kids play xbox and browse reddit, Sup Forums and tumblr which tell them to rebel against their parents.

Meanwhile those in "third world" conditions, farming and working as a family are happier and stronger.

>Video games may turn you into an autistic loser but if you say its the worst thing ever you need to reexamine pop culture
I think they both are equally cancerous, one is made to control thoughts and other is made to bind people to fantasy worlds where they feel empowered instead of actually doing something in real life.

kinda like Sup Forums Sup Forums keeps the movement contained on the INTERNET and as soon as we go out with MAGA hats we get our asses kicked because we shitposted on Sup Forums instead of getting /fit/

No, they can be used as interactive propaganda. Hitler would support video games. He would give the green light on Nazi rpg games.

If that didnt change your opinion then look toward the witcher 3. It appeals to a love of historic europe and nails it. It successfuly shows a better world with only white people

speedrunning is significantly worse than just playing videogames

oh looks it's this thread again

No the most degenerate hobby is posting on anonymous message boards.

BUT FIRST

yeah but it's not a real world.

Hitler wouldn't need games, or even the Internet at all because that society would be glorious in real life.

woah... and just like that i'm a #bookworm

>on Sup Forums
>talks shit about vidya

Glass house, stones etc.

People who play video games like league of legends seem pretty degenerate to me. It's such a low brow way to spend your time, really.

A general sense of strategy is a good trait to have and something that can be trained, but unless it's directly linked to monetary gain as in online Poker ,it's more often than not pretty useless in day-to-day western life.

Why not bring back arcades? It would make gaming much more social.

to be fair once you reach that deep into gaming it's effectively no longer degenerate since it's basically programming, math, and computer science at that point

What you said would have probably meant something if I was reading it on a website that is not a Chinese cartoon board.

I learned English and Japanese by playing video games.

i often think to myself damn i should stop playing video games because it doesn't serve any productive, long term purpose, but with work/gym it's a convenient way for me to spend free time with friends. if i didnt have friends who played i probably would quit altogether.

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it's significantly more autistic, but about on the same level of degeneracy

Not any more degenerate than TV or books. They are just another form of entertainment.

>conservapedia

>wiki that tells you how to behave in a republican way

Hilarious. Hilarious and pathetic.

>group sports
>god tier
made me kek a bit there huey

Putting things in your ass is probably more degenerate than video games. Or collecting used condoms from hobo towns.

>they're engaging in a social activity
>they're engaging in competition
>it's degenerate
>it's low brow
Sorry if i'm spilling freud's spaghetti here, but it sounds like jealousy in all honesty.

It's not a hobby at all. Just another form of media.

Yes. I'm 23 and have been a hardcore video game addict all my life. Got my first system (N64) when I was 5. Ever since then I've been obsessed. Literally coming home from school and playing games from 2:40 till 9:30 at night. It wasn't until 20 I started realizing what I was doing, how I've wasted so much time, and how they've given me ADD. I cut down my game time by a ton, and last year when I turned 22 I decided it was time to completely end them, as they are quite literally a degenerate hobby and real working goal oriented people don't play games. I sold EVERYTHING on Craigslist. N64, GameCube, Super Nintendo, PS2, PS3, Xbox One, Wii U, 3DS, DS, Gameboy. All the games I had for them. Took me about 2 months to sell everything and I made $1500 from it. Best decision I ever made. I've noticed I'm so much more patience and calmer now. I can just sit back and read a book now without wanting to stop after 15 minutes. And I'm more focused on my job, workouts and nutrition than ever before. I haven't looked back and I will never own a video game system again.

I hate when Sup Forums kiddies go "lol I play games after work". Sorry. There is no justifying wasting your time. Playing video games is like staying at home and jerking off to porn. It's unhealthy, it's useless, and it develops bad traits. Just rid them from your life completely. Grow up. And hopefully you all learn sooner than I did that video games are worthless.

hi hater

This is true

to be non degenerate also means to outgrow Sup Forums

Ii's hard I know. But realize you're addicted and this place is NOT healthy.

That entire god tier group is embarrassing
Soccer and basketball are mostly played in third world countries and ghettos for a reason

It was made by liberals
It isn't a real site
Its reddit

One of the most eye-opening things for me regarding this subject were some "gentle femdom" threads that were really fucking popular in /r9k/ for a good while last year until they finally moved to one of the porn boards.

The men in these threads were completely passive and uninterested in sex despite the name of the threads, they were just hoping to find a woman who wore the pants for them in the relationship and who would find their weaknesses endearing or something like that. For a some of them their ultimate fantasy was to become a house husband married to a working woman. Unsurprisingly all of them turned out to be gamers and they justified/exemplified their fantasies using fictional "strong women" who are omnipresent in videogames and nerdy media in general.

This made me realize one of the biggest reasons most gamers (and nerds in general) on the internet are so supportive of fags and so many other forms of degeneracy is because their own sexuality is completely atrophied, even if it looks normal at a first glance.

probably. besides being, at this point, full of sjw games, they also addict autistics with no social skill making them even more retarded

Next step is to learn that Sup Forums is worthless, and consider cutting your home internet service entirely.

I can't even play games anymore because Sup Forums has made it too hard to do anything slower than refreshing Sup Forums.

I play gta v, besieged and fallout 4 (to make the most of wasted money).

I do this instead of watching tv.

I do this on top of going out, and exercising.

Not very degenerate desu.

You'd have to be pretty fucking retarded to think that I was jealous of league of legends players. That doesn't even approach the threshold of making sense.

Yet you're here trying to downplay them with no motive.

movies and games have always been trash for the masses. one of the biggest regrets i have in life is wasting so much time on that shit.

This is how its done, its not degenerate at all

This fits me somewhat except that I love my work and would never settle to be a house husband. And I was diagnosed autistic before I ever touched a video game or the Internet.

but now I'm growing to hate technology and fear that I'm completely worthless, that even my skills in engineering and programing are inherently degenerate and no better than playing games.

If you go further you will find an occult connection between computers and goddess-worship. Cybele (cyber) space. The Internet is feminizing mankind. Even before video games were a thing, you had effeminate computer scientists and programmers. Turing himself was a fag. I'm beginning to realize computers and technology are a form of witchcraft.

This shit goes MUCH deeper than just what you describe.

If you have your shit together, are in a happy relationship and are greatly succeeding in all facets of your life, playing video games for a small amount of time doesn't hurt. The problem is that most people who play a lot of video games are betavirgin neckbeard c.ucks that are going nowhere in life and will literally be forever alone.

Plus it is either games or the Jeremy Kyle Show now the fucking football's on.

Don't have to tell you which one's more degenerate.

learn to not be retarded.

Was playing Hotdogs, Horseshoes, and Hand Grenades on my Vive and learned I don't know how to load and fire most of the guns.

VR Badass I am not

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Are you not man enough to bond with other manly man over a soccer match?

also

>israeli tier
finance and trading, wall / settlement development, media manipulation, removing goyim

I enjoy browsing the Internet at night. I usually have a YouTube tab open, a news tab, and a tab to browse here. I never understood the "you shouldn't use Sup Forums meme". I stay away from the trash boards. But then why am I here on Sup Forums you ask? Because of threads like this. Also. I'm fascinated with the whole Trump vs Hillary thing. I probably wiuldnt be here otherwise.

Program them if you want to learn.

i mean sparring is a better way to bond with people

Just another drug addict scum.

sometimes watch a bit of jezz just to laugh at the subhumans that go on there

Return to the primitive life, western man.

I disagree.

I think computer programming is damaging to the brain if you do it too much. It starts to program you to think like a computer and not like a human.

There was a good thread about modern math and science being materialist degenerate traps, it got a lot of replies and triggered a lot of people.

I think there's something very true to it.

off course is a degenerate hobby.
kids (manchildrens also) should study instead play with toys

You don't gain or learn anything from TV. My reaction times and eye hand coordination have improved immensely.

Strategy games like Civ or logic games like Talos principle can hardly be bad, the contrary. Beside a lof people drain knowledge and language skills out of them

Since you admitted, I'll admit it is a guilty pleasure. Such an ego boost.

Tbh, day time tv is more degenerate than any game.

Watching bargain hunt and flog it before you're 50 should be considered a sign of mental defect.

With that logic you are better off being Amish.

I agree with you.

I think the Amish are totally right. I'm just stuck in my tech job and know I'm far too late to suddenly revert to that kind of life.

(((Mold the worst kind of people)))
Youre talking about millenials right now. There are generations to come with experiences to gain from video games, and its very unlikely that they are gonna mold a generation of killers

DESU, i learned a lot of English from it.
Not only from the game itself, but also game-related.

Maybe 12-13 years ago
I was young and barely spoke English, borrowed a game disc from the library.
RCT 1, game didnt work. It gave me errors. Tried to google it in Dutch, no or barely any usefull results.

Tried googling the exact english error message, came up with search hits. Barely spoke it, still fixed the game because the sites had pictures on how to fix the error. Piece by piece i learned more English because of things like this.

Not killers

human robots who have no soul or ability to form opinions of their own.

But this isn't simply games, it's computers and the Internet as a whole.

Humans are pretty overrated desu. Computers are the better people

>You gain and learn nothing from them.

someone doesnt know about neural rewiring. They often get kids who have strokes to play videogames to reqire the brain cause part of it is either destroyed or badly damaged. I had this. I have an area in my brain that SHOULD be my brocas area but is gone due to a stroke. Its been rewired 2 inches away

So if it helps kids with strokes it must help to shape brains of kids


But you go ahead and be a dumb ass burger

>Is having fun degenerate?

>be me during winter
>dont usually work much
>get extra lazy this winter
>doing nothing but vidya
>after days of making homes in Fallout 4 and then fixing them up
>finally snaps in me that if i can waste all day doing this then i should really do it
>clean the fuck out my place
>paint, new lights, shelves
>start getting plants
>start garden in spring

now my home has never looked better and I have a new hobby. thanks vidya

Sup Forums is conditioning you to be a meme-spouting copypasta machine who can no longer think in proper english. You use short-circuiting words like "fap" to make light of things that are serious.

Internet cynicism is corroding the sanity of a whole generation.

gotta agree there

You can learn a lot from games, actually.
When I was a child, I learned every move in Pokemon, it really helped with my vocabulary and I was a step above the other kids.
Playing RTS games as an adolescent got me into medieval society and I've learned a lot of history and European culture thanks to those games.
They also make you think fast and improve your reflexes.

The only way it becomes "degenerate" is when you seclude yourself and get addicted, like most things in life it's fine in moderation.

I don't have much time to play them anymore though since I have a gf and a job. But yeah they are not degenerate. When I have a child I'm not going to let him play until he's maybe 7 or 8 because when I was young, I was very active but as soon as my parents bought me video games I got addicted and they had to shut the games off and shout to get me go outside.

>conservapedia

though in response to OP, you could say that about a very large chunk of hobbies.

i assume you watch TV OP, that's arguably even worse than vidya since you're just a passive watcher

>You gain and learn nothing from them.
This isn't necessarily true, you could learn just as much from a video game as you could a book, sometimes more.

Of course this isn't the case with most video games today, but there are a few modern exceptions.

>mfw OP was the kid that never won a single game with his friends


get shit on scrub

People solely playing FPS/shooter and action games are usually degenerate though

>but now I'm growing to hate technology and fear that I'm completely worthless, that even my skills in engineering and programing are inherently degenerate and no better than playing games.
You also sound a bit like me. There's just something about computers and programming and that fucks up how your brains interacts with the world. I suspect it has something to do with how "instantaneous" this world is compared to other sciences. Everything is just at the reach of your fingertips, just typing some lines of code to make something or other work, to run some experiment, boom, instant gratification. That's just not how the real world works, compare to the type of work a physicist (for example) would do.

I reassure myself thinking that now I am aware of the dangers and pitfalls of my profession. You can't just make technology suddenly go away, but at least you can steer its course, educate others about its dangers, etc.

I think you've hit on why vidya is only 95 % degenerate instead of 100 %: It's not fully mainstream. In a few years it will be a full shabbos goy hobby

>you could learn just as much from a video game as you could a book
only harry potter tier book. vidyas might have a ideology but they are no way as informative as books

Of course, those are plebeian genres with few redeeming titles. Real patricians play RTS or (S)RPG.

Sold my PS4 yesterday. Best decision I have done in a long time. 19 y/o and life can finally start.

>only harry potter tier book.
Then at the very least kids could benefit more from a video game than most the drivel given to them by federal schools in the US.

I learned lots of interesting cultural references from video games. I only play non pleb tier games. The closest to pleb tier I'll go is the new deus ex's and skyrim.

i'm sorry i can't be productive all the time, loitering,vidyas and books are good ways for clarify my mind

>tfw few RTS games are ever made anymore because moba took a fat shit all over it

I see nothing wrong with "loitering" in and of itself. I like walking around abandoned places alone. It's only a problem if accompanied with drug consumption