Why is the Korean War totally ignored in modern movies?

Explain.

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it wasn't exactly a Hollywood friendly war. It went back and forth and then just ended where it began.

M*A*S*H was pretty much the last time the Korean War was in popular media. I'm also surprised it hasn't been touched since then. It has some fantastic opportunity for storytelling but there's a reason it's called the Forgotten War.

no catchy soundtrack

Because Hollywood does not like to piss off North Korea

It's a very interesting war, deserves more exposure to honor those that died.

My grandpa served in the 1st Marine division, landed and Inchon and served in the battle of Chosin Reservoir when they were surrounded on all sides by the Chinese. Told me a lot of stories about how cold it was there, most of his buddies in his platoon did not return from that battle, and those that did suffered frost-bite and amputations. He had frost-bite on his feet, and got shot in his leg there. He had severe PTSD from the war because when they were moving North out of Seoul, he apparently had to shoot at civilians a few times for some reason. Also probably having to do with a lot of his friends from his years in the Marines dying there.

Chosin was hell though, freezing cold temps, surrounded by Chinks on all sides charging at Marine and army positions in human wave attacks. There's a really good documentary on Chosin that I can't remember the name of which is worth watching. Arguably the US army units that were in Chosin had it much worse than the Marines.

The Steel Helmet is the best war movie ever made.

Just like WWI

These days it will never be done due to Chinese involvement in the war. Any studio that tries to cast China as the enemy will never do business in China

Chosin, Pusan Perimeter, the first comventional jet fighter dogfighting, fuck man there's some great material for movies there

So it pretty much ended with the same borders as before? Why are chinks so dumb

Screw North Korea. They threaten us all the time no matter what we do.

Because America lost

We fought North Korea first. Only later did China intervene, and America was warned well in advance the conditions that would provoke them into intervention.

But MacArthur decided to piss off China anyway and they pushed us back in human wave attacks.

China was the enemy but we provoked them into intervening by going too close to their border.

North and South Korea are still at war dumbass. It never ended. Nobody has lost or won yet.

Most of Asia's wars are ignored. There's no films about Dien Ben Phu, Philippine–American War, Cambodian genocide, Chinese Civil War, etc.

Vietnam is different but that's because most Vietnam films aren't actually about the Vietnam war, but about the controversy over it, or about PTSD.

Even M*A*S*H is about a field hospital in a war zone. You probably wouldn't even know what war it was about if you didn't already know going into it.

>Being this stupid

Look at that map. South Korea ended up with slightly more territory than it had in the beginning.

Because literally the most popular show of all time covered it for over a decade.

I've always been fascinated by the French Indochina War.

Has the finale been topped yet in numbers viewing? I don't think so

Battlefield 4 made you fight against china and the chinks got butthurt but EA still does business in China

Chinese are pussys, fuck them. I want games in the Korean war and more movies

Only movie I can think of that shows any of it is the beginning of We Were Soldiers, that Mel Gibson movie about the first battle of the Vietnam War.

Doesn't count. MASH was actually a low-key way to criticize the Vietnam War.

Pretty sure North Korea lost, they just don't want to admit it.

The French tried absolutely every kind of leadership style they could to try and beat the Vietnamese.

Every general tried something new.

>low-key
Jesus dude it couldn't have been more blatantly anti-Vietnam. Still a good show tho

no audience to watch it apart from south koreans

we should have let macarthur nuke the chinese in korea

They tied. Right now Best and Worst Korea are at a mere ceasefire and have been since 1953.

can you imagine

The French are indirectly responsible for the Cambodian Genocide because the Khmer Rouge were trained in France.

If North Korea, China, Russia, USA, South Korea and Japan all agreed on a script so it could be sold to all of them it would make a great movie.

Ended in stalemate.
It wasn't as culturally significant as WW2 or Vietnam. It's often called the Forgotten War, and probably for that reason there isn't huge motivation for creating a blockbuster.

And now that the Jews want that chink money don't hold your breath. The only reason that North Korea exists now is because the Chinese used the old Russian tactic of sending waves after waves of cannon fodder.

You mean the UN and N.Korea-China agreed to signed a ceasefire for a war North Korea started, but couldn't win without Soviet funding and Chink manpower.

Point is, the show was really about Vietnam and not Korea.

I imagine that's pretty depressing for Korean War vets.

MASH was basically the Vietnam war, all they did was replace Korean names with Vietnamese ones.
Their fashion and outlook on life was more that of people serving in the Korean war. They didn't even try to make it period.

I remember years back Spielberg teased a mini series about it, but nothing ever came of it.

>Dien Ben Phu
There's a 1992 French film by the same name dumbass

>Philippine-American War
Heneral Luna

>Chinese Civil War
Not allowed by China

Because it would be the gooks running and hiding as the west saves their slant eyed asses.

The South Korean military got better as the war progressed.

>he hasn't seen the brotherhood of war

Plebian

You should check out North Korean kino.

All their movies are about the Korean war.

Please. If it wasn't for the Americans, Canadians, and Aussies holding Kapyong after the South Koreans literally shit themselves, ran, and left ALL THEIR FUCKING SHIT BEHIND South Korea wouldn't exist.

The South Korean army was a god damn embarrassment.

Imagine being MacArthur in that war and having to be all like "damn, North Korea, you fuckin' fine, all weak with your retreating army and horrific sickly glorious leader. I would totally have nuked you, both my army and on my own." when all he really wants to do is bomb another asian country from his war room. Like seriously imagine having to be MacArthur and not only sit in that chair while North Korea flaunts its massive conscripted army in front of you, the favorable weather barely concealing its underfed and short soldiers, and just sit there, drink after drink, hour after hour, while it perfected that invasion. Not only having to tolerate its monstrous fucking ego but its haughty attitude as everyone on the Communist government cabinet tells Kim Il-Sung he's STILL GOT IT and DAMN, GLORIOUS LEADER LOOKS LIKE *THAT*?? because they're not the ones who have to sit there and watch his manlet fucking gremlin face contort into types of grimaces you didn't even know existed before that day. You've been bombing nothing but a healthy diet of Nips and Flips and later alleged war crime victims for your ENTIRE CAREER coming straight out of the boonies in America. You've never even seen anything this fucking disgusting before, and now you swear you can taste the sweat that's breaking out on his wrinkled forehead as he raises it to writhe suggestively at the people's Republic, smugly assured that they are enjoying the opportunity to get paid to sit there and revel in his "statuesque (for that is what he calls himself)" power, the pwer he worked so hard for with personal generals in the previous months. And then the President calls for another halt, and you know you could nuke every single gook in this continent before the Chinese could put you down, but you sit there and endure, because you're fucking MacArthur. You're not going to lose your future political career over this. Just bear it. Hide your face and bear it.

>Because Hollywood does not like to piss off North Korea
kek,

S. Korea got the worthless mountain lands on the east.

N. Korea got more land on the populated western side including the city of Kaesong, which was one of top 5 most populous cities in Korea.

actually, a very good case can be made that the US, UK, Australia, and probably some countries that I left out accomplished their goal in the Korean War, meaning they won.

>Imagine being an ambassador at the UN and having to be all like "damn, Kim Jung Il, you're so fat! Fatty, fAT FaT Fat FAt!

>300lbs
>5'2"
Holy shit

its a war that is still going on, a cease fire is just in place

Doesn't fit the happy narrative.

It was a shitty war that ended up a war between China and the US. While boring in general that wouldn't fly in China itself which is a huge portion of Hollywood revenue. All spent on a film that wouldn't be shown there.

Either way nobody cares. It's an old war in the beginning of Communist finger pointing but early enough that people were still propaganda brainwashed enough to fully support whatever the fuck was going on.

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>It was a shitty war that ended up a war between China and the US. While boring in general that wouldn't fly in China itself which is a huge portion of Hollywood revenue. All spent on a film that wouldn't be shown there.

This, more than anything else really.

ChiCom censors would get asshurt that it didn't portray grrorious Mao and China in a positive light and would prevent it's release, and dumb Americans wouldn't watch it because "How could there be a Korean War if North Korea still exists?"

The Quiet American is about that war. A great film but not really a war movie.

S. Korea got the Gangwon-do area. Spoiler alert, it's the poorest area in Korea.

You know how many Americans died in Korean War combat?

33,686.

The war was only slightly 3 years long!

For comparison, we lost 58,315 combat casualties in Vietnam and the US ground war began in 1965 (Saigon fell in 1975).

Think about that.

Yet North Korea is poor and famine-plagued, lol. I'm so impressed.

If North Korea got the best lands, it's a testament to the regime's sheer incompetence they didn't prosper.

a lot of its veterans are still alive.

I think they will have to some day. Hollywood has to be running out of WW2 stories to tell.

>Korean War
>boring
You know nothing

Even before the war North Korea was better off than South Korea, since that was where almost all the industry built up by the Japanese occupation was located.

>regime's sheer incompetence

Yeah, I'm sure it has nothing to do with their political ideology. You know, the same one that venezuela has.

>If North Korea got the best lands, it's a testament to the regime's sheer incompetence they didn't prosper.
That's nationalistic socialism for you

The U.S. wiped out 20% of North Korea's entire population while supporting a regime that massacred up to 200,000 people without trial and still lost.

It's hard to show the U.S. destroying practically every major North Korean city and start bombing dams after running out of targets (a war crime) and then do he typical boo hooing about how the American soldier is the true hero/victim.

North Korea/East Germany and their better neighbors are living proof that populist communism breeds incompetence and misery.

Boring in the sense of national pride and culture.

It's a wasted war. More wasted than Vietnam but still.

Technically speaking we waged an all out offensive on China. At a time when that was kind of weird and not thought of. It's an amazing war but not one we could put to screen and expect something out of it monetary wise.

Nobody cares about the Korean War because nobody got PTSD from it, it was televised, and it isn't even over yet.

MASH is literally the GOAT. Eat shit siegnfeld and friends.

How do you know about the Korean War in actuality, Mr. Korea was boring?

71: Into the Fire is korean war kino

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>while supporting a regime that massacred up to 200,000 people without trial and still lost.

North Korean agents had been infiltrating South Korea long before the war, and Communist sympathisers tend to be a fifth column when any nation, y'know, gets invaded by a Communist power.

Though nothing beats the hilarity of commies talking a tough game on "putting porky up against a wall when the revolution comes!" and bitching and whining that some swaggering caudillo is throwing them from helicopters

tae guk gi brotherhood of war is pretty fantastic

I see what you mean now. Yes I agree.

The Korean War was forgotten because it was right after WWII, didn't last long, and was right before Vietnam. But it was an incredibly intense conventional war utilizing new technologies like jet engined fighters and regular semiautomatic weapons. Not to mention the Chinese jumped in and completely turned the tide.

>i'm 12 and don't know shit about anything the post

MASH is shit.

>Whoa guys what if war is bad lol

I miss having a TV, MASH was the best background show

>ChiCom censors would get asshurt that it didn't portray grrorious Mao and China in a positive light

Well technically the Chinese were the underdogs in the war. But portraying it that way would alienate the American audience. There's really no way to spin it to appeal to both. The Koreans have some decent depictions of the war tho.

>East Germany

t. someone that knows literally nothing about the post war economy in East Germany

It was a great comedy. Kys

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>post war economy in East Germany
Looking at the East German cities and West German cities TODAY is proof enough that communism was and is shit

When you put up a wall to prevent the citizens of your country from leaving it, you know that you are a failed shithole.

Wat

The Korean War was far more cemented in the long run than Vietnam.

It was the first big confrontation to the new powers to be. It was the first time the US kind of had to tuck tail a bit and realize "holy shit the world's not conquerable we have to do treaties and deal a bit." Put the US in it's place a bit.

It's why we got paranoid afterward with 'muh Red Scare and how Vietnam came about and eventually Afghanistan shenanigans.

East German cities actually look far nice than their Western counterparts because the West has been pouring money into them ever since the wall went down.

Why don't you stop spewing bullshit and maybe find some other subject you know a thing or two about

>nicer
Fucking kek, I was just there last year on business. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining you bureaucrat's shit.

doesnt involve westerners

so naturally westerners wouldnt care about a war like that as much as one about d-day or vietnam

this is perfectly natural

>Well technically the Chinese were the underdogs in the war.

Without Mao's support (and Stalin's tacit consent) North Korea wouldn't have bothered invading South Korea. Mao (and Stalin) thought it would be a cakewalk, and that the US would abandon South Korea soon after their forces in the peninsula collapsed

>if I go ahead and lie it will make my bullshit seem more believable

kill yourself my man

just end it

Do you look in the mirror every morning and see a retard? I think you do. Go play in traffic and let the adults talk, kid.

>American "education"

Well it was a cakewalk until the US showed up.

Besides, I meant it on more of a soldier to soldier level, rather than a geopolitical one. The Chinese were equipped with salvaged WW2 weapons and a bundle of rags and trash for supplies. The US had all sorts of new toys and enjoyed what should have been an insurmountable tech/logistics advantage. The fact that the Chinese managed to fight to a standstill is pretty impressive.

Sheer numbers made the human wave attacks difficult to stop.

In addition, the UN forces were pushed back so hard initially just due to the sheer shock of the Chinese intervention, and that they were totally unprepared for it in how they were organized, the whole army was basically one giant line stretching all the way across the peninsula. which resulted in a lot of units being surrounded before they even realized what was happening. By 1951, the UN forces figured out an effective counter to the human wave: superior firepower and defense in-depth. The UN forces would set up over half a dozen fall back lines and have multiple fire-bases and CAS at the ready and would basically slaughter any incoming Chinese advance, then they'd counter-attack an retake lost ground and make minor advances. Rinse and repeat until 1953 and a ceasefire is called.

Are you retarded? WWI literally completely and fundamentally altered the political landscape of Europe forever. It absolutely fucking did not end "right back where it started"

My original point was that the Chinese would be the underdogs. Being so under-equipped and outgunned that you have to rely on "human wave attacks" to fight an enemy seems to fit that.

And the term "human wave attack" isn't even an accurate name for what the Chinese actually did.
>U.S. Army historian Roy Edgar Appleman observed that the term "human wave" was later used by journalists and military officials to convey the image that the American soldiers were assaulted by overwhelming numbers of Chinese on a broad front, which is inaccurate when compared with the normal Chinese practice of sending successive series of five men teams against a narrow portion of the line.[1] S.L.A. Marshall also commented that the word "mass" was indiscriminately used by the media to describe Chinese infantry tactics, and it is rare for the Chinese to actually use densely concentrated infantry formations to absorb enemy firepower.
When all you have is starving light infantry and you have to attack a heavily mechanized enemy with a dominant air force, artillery, and navy, your options are pretty limited to begin with.

I'll take a stab at a few reasons studios might be hesitant:

>Dumb audiences won't be able to distinguish it from World War II: "Why aren't they all using Shermans??"

>Many others literally don't know Korea happened. For them, World War II was followed by Vietnam then the Gulf War.

>Koreans are hard to tell apart: not racist, but you can have a handful of scheming Nazis and heroically collaborating Frenchies and Western audiences won't confuse their characters all together. You therefore can't use a script with more than "Korean Man" and "Korean Woman" roles. Vietnam movies run into the same trouble.

>The background factions aren't cut and dry. So communist Koreans get in a civil war with normal Koreans, then the UN gets involved? But the US is the UN? Then we win too much and the Chinese get involved? It's not quite America & pals vs. Evil Nazis.

Oddly enough, I think you could have a series of Korea movies where the later ones enjoy much broader success than the initial ones, because more of the audience would have the background necessary.

Probably will never be. With the internet and cable too many different viewing options and many people would (illegally) download it at a later time. Eventually something may pass it in total number of viewers merely due to population growth but never in terms of percent of population.

Fuckin A, man

Pure Shame. First time America got fucked, by farmers btw.

>mountain lands.
>insignificant.

has no idea how much elevation is important during a war.