>first scene setting the tone for the movie >"This is fine I guess. Not sure why the wife had to act retarded but okay. " >over an hour goes by >very little happens and what does happen isn't very interesting >almost no time given to developing the characters >some weird Jyn character moments and drastic motivational shifts >scenes feel immersive af though >suddenly CGI Tarkin >"They know they don't have to make his body move and jerk around all the time like that, right? Looks unnatural." >HUGE ass space battle >"I like this." >suddenly characters from original SW inserted using 1970s quality archival footage >"Cute but jarring." >cuts back to the beach battle >"Eh." >characters start dying >"Still don't really feel like I knew these people." >le epic Vader scene >"This will be the scene everyone talks about." >CGI Leia >"Seems happy and calm for someone who just saw all that shit go down. Wait, that was Tantive IV? Leia was there for the whole battle??" >END
First half was nice in that it made the SW universe feel huge and lived-in but still seems slow and rushed at the same time if that makes sense.
>access corporate HR mail >find out they have a list of people they're going to fire soon >anonymously give list to union delegates >they tell the company they have the list >company doesn't fire anyone Yeah bros the Rebellion is alive and well >tfw on the right side of history
David Miller
I agree with this. I was bored with the first half of the movie because nothing of note happened. When that pilot got interrogated by that monster thing, I thought he was going to stay crazy but he magically turned sane again.
I'm really disappointed by how fragile they portrayed the AT-AT's. Snow speeders firing directly on them did nothing to them but X-wings can take them out with 1 pass? That doesn't see right to me.
The space battle was cool but the scene with the two cruisers smashing into each other was a bit ridiculous. The Vader scene was nicely done though.
Angel Kelly
1 off rip
Oliver Gonzalez
AT-AT armor has always been dubious. As soon as those speeders brought one down, suddenly shooting them magically works and they explode with only a few hits.
Henry Cooper
Maybe X-wings have more powerful blasters than Snowspeeders?
Michael Foster
I was pretty excited to see Red Leader and Gold Leader again. Plus the Red 5 scene was a nice touch.
I get the slow and rushed. There were a lot of new planets, but not much happened on them, they were mostly used once (like Eadu).
Limit it to Jedha and Scarif, then you'd probably be OK. Maybe with the stop-off at Yavin 4 (but don't keep cutting back).
Grayson Sanders
vader scene was hella cool, it's scary seeing something so unstoppable heading at such a steady pace dispatching every person around until you're what's left, but the movie felt like it was missing something. It doesn't have character development and god damn do the storm troopers only become useful when they want to make it seem like the rebels will loose. But the bantz dude, omfg. Vader telling krennic not to choke on his aspirations, and literally anything k2so said was funny as hell. Rip you little cheeky droid
Charles Gray
I couldn't imagine that it would be that much more powerful than a snowspeeders cannons. We saw an AT-AT take a rocket to the face without any noticeable effect.
Adam Wilson
>TFA is literally Episode 4 with different characters >Rogue One has scenes lifted almost verbatim from the OT I mean they have to fuckign deactivate a shield while surrounding a fortress in the middle of some jungle? The fucking door was exactly the same one from ROTJ
Connor Lopez
Rollin for dubs trips or quads. Gimme dem sweet lil shortstacks
Jonathan Morales
That ruins the empire for me. They went from being this scary fighting force with massive weapons of terror to just an army that does bad shit.
Jackson Murphy
1 off both times rip
Mason Ramirez
>"This is fine I guess. Not sure why the wife had to act retarded but okay. "
Fucking this. What dumbass mother decides to let her daughter try and survive on its own just to run straight into death? She must of known she had no chance to save her husband. Literally just her vs 8 dudes with automatic rifles.
Lucas Murphy
Really would enjoy a Star Wars film all about a squad of Storm Troopers. Would be neat to see the Empire portrayed as a dangerous force instead of these dumbasses in armor.
Kevin Walker
I'm one with the Memes, the Memes are with me. I'm one with the Memes, the Memes are with me. I'm one with the Memes, the Memes are with me. I'm one with the Memes, the Memes are with me. I'm one with the Memes, the Memes are with me.
Dominic Martin
unfortunately the it would be hard to fit into the progressive agenda around post-lucas star wars. (They) have spent to much time making the empire/ first order literally hitler to try and humanize them now. But i agree, it would be the goat.
Liam Ramirez
This and his friend had no reason to be in this movie. Rogue One did not need the force mentioned at all really. If these two fuckers were gone it would have freed up time to spend developing on the other guys who were far more important than these two.
Tyler Watson
Was it actually the force that protected him? Or was it meme magic?
Jacob Bell
Not unless they were fighting someone the audience would hate more. Actually, after that Vader fight scene at the end of Rogue One I couldn't help but think how cool a movie would be of Vader hunting down the remaining Jedi after Episode 3.
Jacob Parker
Meme Magic. That's all the force really is.
Kevin Smith
Those were cargo carrier at-at's which we've ever seen fight before. And I'm super it's Canon that xwings are more powerful than snow speeders.
David Morales
Objectively objective review. Good job user, this thread probably hates you.
Brody Carter
>(They) have spent to much time making the empire/ first order literally hitler to try and humanize them now
Post-Lucas Star Wars is the only Star Wars that's given us black female Imperials/First Order characters.
You seem to forget Lucas was the one who kept the Empire white males while diversifying the Rebellion.
In Rogue One we saw a lot of Stormtroopers having normal conversations, something Lucas also never did.
Bentley Cooper
>and literally anything k2so said was funny as hell
Anthony Watson
May the Memes be with you.
Nolan Ortiz
>But the bantz dude, omfg. Vader telling krennic not to choke on his aspirations, and literally anything k2so said was funny as hell. Rip you little cheeky droid Plz mootsan, just sell Sup Forums to Shkreli
Wyatt Myers
There were regular AT-AT's involved aswell.
Regardless, what about the gunship machine gunner taking out one of the AT-AT's legs with his gun and making it collapse. If that was even a possibility then why the hell is anyone even scared of those things?
It's those little things that made the empire scary in the first place. AT-AT's being these great hulks that you can shoot unload on but you won't stop it's advance. Now they're being taken out like it's no big deal. Empire gets nerfed more and more in every subsequent movie.
Grayson Morris
I completely disagree.
An organization cannot be top to bottom evil. You can portray the Emperor, Vader, Krennic, etc. as evil as you want while still humanizing the average people who just sign up because they get conscripted or need a paycheck.
Hell, even in this movie there are multiple examples of this.
Not to mention that if they continue borrowing from old cannon you're going to see that Han used to be an imperial pilot.
Christopher Rodriguez
Why didn't the Rebellion send in some A-Wings?
Austin Wood
Are these characters from some series?
Asher Walker
>In Rogue One we saw a lot of Stormtroopers having normal conversations, something Lucas also never did. Wrong. And the empire was never as Nazi as in force awakens.
Wyatt Morales
Donnie Yen is a superstar in China. They cast him so that Rogue One does well in China.
Jaxson Davis
Old version of At-Ats
Jason Johnson
>Wrong
Then you never watched the movie. I still remember a conversation two of them had about fighters being retired but I guess that doesn't fit into your agenda.
Also the First Order had black and female members but I guess that's more Nazi than the Empire that was entirely white men.
Seriously, you're not going to win this one. Drop out now and save yourself the embarrassment because I can already see the posts you'll make that cite zero example and appeal entirely to emotions.
Cameron Hughes
Honestly though, does anyone have good answers for these?
>Why did black robot man seppuku? >What kind of shockwave is so slow moving you actually see rocks falling down in front of it? >Why was pilot man's insanity instantly cured? >Why do none of the storm troopers even act trained? >Why don't the Star Destroyer tier ships have ship scaled weapons? >Why was a small tug ship able to overpower a Star Destroyer's engines? (not the disabled one) >Why couldn't Vader just force pull that last ship back to him? >Why did they use siege weapons (AT-ATs) to defend a static position? >Why were X-wings able to shoot down AT-ATs when they couldn't do so on Hoth?
RIP to the nameless soldier who sprinted for the master switch without a second thought. The true hero of Rogue One.
Logan Wright
X-Wings are a lot stronger. AT-ATs are no match for them. They need cover to sustain that sort of attack!
Joshua Cox
Why was everyone constantly bringing up the force and saying "may the force be with you"?
I don't remember anyone outside of the jedi characters in the original trilogy ever mentioning the force.
John Williams
Rebels were saying it constantly in the OT.
Cameron Brown
>X-Wings are a lot stronger. AT-ATs are no match for them. So why did they scramble snowspeeders against them on Hoth? They had X-Wings.
Asher Perez
>thinking anyone is actually that retarded
Landon Price
I'M GOIN IN!!!!
Jaxson Wright
They probably couldn't handle the cold environment and weren't made to fly in that sort of weather.
Gavin Nguyen
I win. Now let's get back on topic.
Liam Sanders
>Why did black robot man seppuku you saw how hard of a time he was having walking, before the attack, there is no way he's going to hustle fast enough to get on the ship before he shockwave from the deathstar blast reaches the temple
Kayden Rodriguez
kek
I like this actor but what a stupid character.
Noah Hill
>Then you never watched the movie. I still remember a conversation two of them had about fighters being retired but I guess that doesn't fit into your agenda. In the original star wars storm troopers are shown having conversations. George did it, you were wrong.
Damn dude, quality projection. Remember when George made nearly the entire antagonising force in the prequels be aliens? And when the emperor was an alien before budgetary restrictions.
And when in 1980s England all of the minor actors were white British people?
But go on, keep with your emotions.
Nathaniel Walker
Then why were X-wings doing cable bullshit instead of just shooting them?
Maybe, but I don't think that's what he said and even then, who gives up just because they're tired?
Liam Foster
After Luke proved the force was viable. Or maybe before the Death Star, but that makes substantially more sense than blow much it's used in rogue One.
He fulfilled his duty, he saw a chance at defeating the empire and "reunited" father and daughter.
Adrian Kelly
Wasn't that the idea of that scene in Clerks? Arguing about all the people who were killed when the Death Star blew up?
Cameron Lee
So Fucking Epic
Jackson Price
>why was pilot man insta cured? Im guessing space bean asking him about who he was got his memory working again, plus continued contact with people probably helped the recovery. not to mention when robonig says "few ever recover" how many of those people who got face raped by that hentai babe ever left their jail cell after. also i lol'd when that master switch guy got shot, he triiiiiied so haaaaaard.
Jordan Diaz
>Why did black robot man seppuku? Because there was no other way out alive and he knew that, he bought them time.
>What kind of shockwave is so slow moving you actually see rocks falling down in front of it? Dramatic effect. Also, it was less of a nuclear type blast and more of a ripping the ground up from under it and exploding it. In the end, dramatic effect.
>Why was pilot man's insanity instantly cured? Not instant, and clearly lingered throughout the film. He never seemed quite right after that.
>Why do none of the storm troopers even act trained? It's a podunk data storage facility in bumfuck nowhere, surrounded by a planet wide forcefield. It's probably where they send all the rejects.
>Why don't the Star Destroyer tier ships have ship scaled weapons? No excuses, I've always wondered this. Everything is scaled for single manned crafts and turbo lasers seem to be bullshit towards large vessels.
>Why was a small tug ship able to overpower a Star Destroyer's engines? (not the disabled one) Wasn't the disabled one the one they pushed?
>Why couldn't Vader just force pull that last ship back to him? This isn't The Force Unleashed.
>Why did they use siege weapons (AT-ATs) to defend a static position? Those were AT-ACT's they're not meant for warfare, but construction projects. But you use what you have available in war.
>Why were X-wings able to shoot down AT-ATs when they couldn't do so on Hoth? The X-wings are superior and were used as escorts for the escape shuttles. The speeders were just used to buy time and slow the progress of the walkers. It was all about limited resources, they only shipped out two x-wings per escape ship if I'm remembering correct, they didn't have many to spare.
Ryan Reyes
sounds like you just want your point to be right after someone showed you it was wrong.
Luke Davis
he realized if he made them wait for him, they would all die
Julian Murphy
Good answers I suppose. Still a bad taste in my mouth.
But there were troopers in desert town
Aiden Cooper
>Actually, after that Vader fight scene at the end of Rogue One I couldn't help but think how cool a movie would be of Vader hunting down the remaining Jedi after Episode 3.
This would be cool, but I don't think it would be a great movie. Vader, no longer a tortured, conflicted soul as Anakin, but just a relentless killing machine that we know is going to win and kill a bunch of people that we don't care about? It's hard to become invested in any character, including a Jedi, that we know is going to die by the end of the movie as a sacrifice for more Vader backstory.
Mason Wright
>>Why was a small tug ship able to overpower a Star Destroyer's engines? (not the disabled one) y-wings ion bombs disabled the engines, like the ion cannon did in empire.
Jonathan Ramirez
The rebels probably only had a few xwangs and needed them to guard the important transport ships, the battle at hoth was just a delaying action, no reason to lose your best equipment when you can just sacrifice some ground-pounders
Leo Clark
It pushed an undamaged one as well though
Parker Cox
>>What kind of shockwave is so slow moving you actually see rocks falling down in front of it? it was more of a volcanic eruption beginning.
Jace Thomas
Yeah but physics
Carson Roberts
My nostalgia meter overloaded when this thing showed up.
Nathaniel Hall
>It's hard to become invested in any character, including a Jedi, that we know is going to die by the end of the movie If only Disney thought of that
Jose Sullivan
I would say after Luke proved the force was viable.
Because during the Battle of Yavin, everyone in the Rebel Alliance seemed to express that they thought he was a fucking idiot and their fate was sealed when Luke announced that he shut off his targeting computer.
Chase Allen
But he didn't show me it was wrong, I was conceding points in an attempt to reach an understanding. Sounds like they're just too lazy though.
Gabriel Martin
Someone suggested making a vader movie where it's essentially a slasher movie but with Vader as the antagonist as a group of Jedi and rebels try to survive as he mercilessly slaughters everyone.
Wyatt Bell
what?
Levi Peterson
luke never proved the force was viable before they said it. Do you think they wanted to get obi wan kenobi's help just because he had a sweet beard?
>I don't remember anyone outside of the jedi characters in the original trilogy ever mentioning the force.
your memory is shit. They literally end a mission briefing with "may the force be with you" without even knowing who luke was or what he was capable of.
>The fucking door was exactly the same one from ROTJ
Its almost like those two doors were built by the same entity
Logan Martin
I'm dying
Nathan Parker
Plotanalconveniece
Matthew Anderson
Yeah the deleted scene in ROTJ testifies to the fact that the Empire wasn't meant to be portrayed as all evil.
Hudson Williams
That's an interesting idea, but I can't see that working any better given how much we know about Darth Vader from both before and after this hypothetical movie. We know more about him than any other character in Star Wars. Like I said, we wouldn't care at all about the characters that exist essentially as shark bait to be devoured by Vader, so the focus of the movie would have to be Vader's psychology and what he's doing for the Empire between III and IV; finding the remaining Jedi and the rebels, trying to hunt Obi-Wan and Yoda, interacting with the Emperor, wondering what happened to Luke, etc. Slasher films wouldn't be that involved in the slasher character himself, aside from some third-party backstpry exposition a la Donald Pleasance in Halloween. I think audiences would spend the whole time thinking, "fuck these literally who Rebels, what is Vader doing and thinking?"
Thats funny, because thats what people thought Rogue One would be
Alexander Harris
well, that sure backfired.
Parker Hall
Its literally that X wings have way more powerful blasters than snowspeerders dude
Luis Morgan
Half your explanations are fine, and half are you just apologizing away bad writing.
Brayden Turner
>>I don't remember anyone outside of the jedi characters in the original trilogy ever mentioning the force. Lol what the fuck dude. I never said anything near that. What I did say is that saying. before the death star makes more sense than what is presented in rogue One. >a commander saying "may god watch over all of us" before a suicide mission Vs >one soldier saying "god watches over you" to a random soldier
Jeremiah Foster
>yeah but physics user, do you know what movie series this is?
Wyatt Rogers
Wow.
PlotanalC/onvenience
Benjamin Thomas
Suspension of disbelief, user. People get upset by force jumps and Yoda fighting, or a race that talks funny; but those people can go on to say "it's space wizards it doesn't matter that they went to light speed while in atmosphere"
Jaxon Miller
They way vader walked in had a really gay vibe. I'm p sure the actor in that costume was a fag.
Luis Thompson
It's a fun action pop-sci movie where the good guys are always going to win, they're writing from the point of apologists to begin with to ensure they end up where they want.
It's just what it is.
Aiden Bennett
>>over an hour goes by >>very little happens
oh hi, autist MCU is now in the Blu Ray aisle
Sebastian Thompson
Anyone else find it very jarring how they clearly CGd Tarkin and young Leia's faces in the movie for the characters? Why didn't they just cast different actors?