>TFA is a shitty, bland copy of ANH
>"It was great! It's just like classic Star Wars!"
>R1 has some references to old stuff but also tries to do something new
>"This movie is shit it's all the same old stuff as before blah blah blah"
Are they literally retarded?
What the fuck happened to them? When did they turn into such hack frauds?
>Are they literally retarded?
I don't know, but you clearly are.
they said
"I don't mind them trying something new, I just think they missed the mark"
yes they're retards
yes they've always been hack frauds
yes I wish their brand would die and go away already and I hope mike drinks himself to death, that would be the first funny thing he's done since the plinkett reviews
Fuck off JJ you little rat. Your movie is shit
>yes they've always been hack frauds
But they weren't though. They used to be good.
The positive TFA review was the first sign that they were going downhill.
When Jay said Daisy Ridley was "charismatic as hell" I lost any respect I had left for him.
Are you retarded, OP? I think they were too kind towards TFA and too harsh towards RO but I understand their opinions. They liked TFA because it has likeable characters. They didn't like RO because most of the characters are bland and underdeveloped and there's a ton of "HEY LOOK, HERE'S A THING FROM THE ORIGINAL TRILOGY!" bullshit. There are a bunch of problems with TFA but it didn't have anything as distracting as CGI Tarkin or "YOU'LL BE DEAD!" guy making a pointless cameo.
Yeah I didn't get that at all. Are they telling me that the movie is bad because they use x wings and y wings in a movie set during the time they were in use? Or that they shouldn't use stormtroopers? Yet tfa used xwings 30 years after the battle of endor and should have been replaced with something new by then.
I cringed when i heard him say that
>When Jay said Daisy Ridley was "charismatic as hell" I lost any respect I had left for him.
Well you have to remember how gay and tasteless he is. Don't expect his judgment of female characters to be relevant.
>Are they telling me that the movie is bad because
No, they're saying it's bad because of the boring shit characters and plot they didn't care about
Complaining about Tie Fighters or AT-ST is like complaining about katanas in a samurai movie. Or cars in a Mad Max movie.
And while I liked Rey at the beginning of TFA I completely stopped caring after she effortlessly succeeded at everything she ever tried.
fuck that was hard to understand, can you post that again user so other retards in this thread can see it?
They didn't care about the plot because we already knew rebels would get the plans. Which is complete fucking bullshit.
We know good guys are going to win in every movie. I guess that means every action movie is pointless. We know who won WW2. I guess every WW2 movie is pointless.
So every Japanese movie has katanas and geishas, and every modern movie has battle tanks and assault rifles? You have a rather childish world view, don't you?
Yeah, those complaints were dumb but I fully agree with their complaints about the cameos.
You dense idiot.
First of all TFA has no likeable characters. Finn is a spastic retard, Rey is a textbook Mary Sue, and Kylo is Anakin Mark II but uglier this time. And none of them can act.
Secondly yes R1 had a lot of flaws and too many references. No one is arguing that it didn't. But that's better than TFA which is literally nothing but references. The ENTIRE FUCKING MOVIE is ANH you god damn clown. At least R1 tried to do something fresh and original.
And on a purely visual level, R1 blows TFA out of the water. TFA looks like shit.
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>disney really needs to try to do something new other than the same old action movie with fluff
>OMG IT WAS SOOOO BORING ALL THEY DID WAS TALK
Confirmed 5 year olds. Really surprised it's almost like they are regressing as critics
How about you take JJ Abraham's cock out of your mouth and evaluate the movies objectively you fucking homo
They acknowledge right in the review that the plot would be fine even if they already know the outcome if the movie was actually engaging or stylized in an unusual way or if the characters were interesting.
The first two acts of the movie were boring trite. The movie gets better during its final act but it's way too late because you don't care about the characters and them dying holds no emotional weight.
>implying I gave a shit about Rey or Finn or Kylo or Poe in TFA
Fool.
Don't speak for me faggot. I genuinely liked K2, Chirrut and Baze. Jyn also was a cutie.
It's important to note that a movie still needs to be good once you strip away all the pandering.
They either got paid for Ep 7 review or were scared shitless to condemn it for fear of backlash from their redit fanbase.
>buzzwords
>more buzzwords
>visuals
>"waaaaaaah at least it tried to do something..."
That doesn't mean shit these days You sound just like a prequel apologist.
"Do. Or do not. There is no try."
You're the fool, I never implied you did.
THEY did.
>I have no counter argument
>I know I'll just repeat the word "buzzwords" at him
Good job kike
>You dense idiot.
You're the one who's acting dense.
>First of all TFA has no likeable characters. Finn is a spastic retard, Rey is a textbook Mary Sue, and Kylo is Anakin Mark II but uglier this time. And none of them can act.
You're having a fit over RLM's opinions. Your autistic rage isn't going to change their minds.
>But that's better than TFA which is literally nothing but references. The ENTIRE FUCKING MOVIE is ANH you god damn clown.
RLM admitted that TFA is a ANH clone. However, they didn't mind that because they thought the characters were likeable.
>At least R1 tried to do something fresh and original.
I agree with you on this but I also agree with RLM's criticism that most of the characters are too underdeveloped. It isn't a bad movie but it isn't a great one either because you don't care about most of the characters and some of the fanservice stuff takes you out of the movie.
>And on a purely visual level, R1 blows TFA out of the water.
Yeah, Jay said R1 looks better than TFA. Did you watch the review?
I cared so little during the movie I honestly have no idea which characters those names belong to.
But that's not true. You did´t care.
Yeah there wasn't enough quips or witty oneliners for your small brain to understand.
I totally agreed with their r1 review, I don't get how they liked TFA though. As stated it's the same shit.
I let the review go, the plinket review gave TFA a glowing outing too though. To be completely honest I think J"someone"J contacted them directly.
the funny robot made plenty of funny oneliners
even darth vader (omg darth vader!!!) cracked a joke
Are we really pretending R1 is somehow a deep movie now, it's just a failed attempt at your typical action/adventure story, except everyone dies at the end.
>tfw we'll never get to see the original cut of the movie
I doubt it's a masterpiece but I would guess it has more character development, less cameos and less out of place humor.
The point is RLM's blatant double standard and Abrams shilling.
TFA is a 0/10 steaming pile of shit. R1 on the other hand is a solid 6/10 movie.
>even darth vader (omg darth vader!!!) cracked a joke
"Don't CHOKE on your aspirations..." Facepalm.
You didn't listen to what they said at all?
They care more about keeping their subscriber base than giving an honest review.
They can get away with criticizing rogue one because it separates itself from the main series, but saying TFA is bad is still "sacrilege" as far as mainstream culture is concerned.
It's only a matter of time until more and more reviewers star saying "lol star wars in general was never as good as you remember it" in order to justify the good reviews of the newer movies.
What double standards? They liked these characters in this one movie but then didn't like these other characters in this other movie. What are opinions? Get the fuck over yourself.
they are both shit
But honestly, Rogue One has some of the most boring characters I have ever seen in a movie
>RLM's blatant double standard
Everyone has double standards when it comes to movies. Why can't you autists understand this?
Maybe they got tired of all the call backs.
I feel like people are missing the context of that.
He's saying that she was a weak character but that she played it so that you didn't notice how underwritten she was while watching, while the cracks in the Felicity Jones character are distracting through the movie.
I kind of agree with him. I didn't like Rey at all, but my straight-up annoyance with her didn't bother me during the movie but after
>Sup Forumseddit hates RO
>RLM review comes out
>Sup Forumseddit suddenly loves RO
Contrarian loser fags lmao
They're not complaining about X Wings being in there but that the movie feels designed to showcase the. It's a nostalgia jerkoff fest rather than a movie where these elements exist naturally
>Sup Forums is one guy
nice try dumb frog poster
100% of this thread is fags being butthurt at RLM
Sup Forumseddit must ALWAYS do the opposite of RLM
>They care more about keeping their subscriber base than giving an honest review
They review was pretty spot on. Or didn´t you see the comment section? It's full of assmads fanboys like (You).
They waited 5 days to make the video so they could see what the consensus would be. Then they went full contrarian to get maximum jewtube clicks. Its OK because as it's not the main series Mike can still claim he likes Star Wars by maintaining his love for the ANH remake and inevitably giving E8 a glowing review.
They are frauds
>Who would expect weapons and war machines in a STAR WARS movie, amrite?
>They waited 5 days to make the video so they could see what the consensus would be. Then they went full contrarian to get maximum jewtube clicks. Its OK because as it's not the main series Mike can still claim he likes Star Wars by maintaining his love for the ANH remake and inevitably giving E8 a glowing review
>RLM give a critically acclaimed movie a positive review
>"SHILLS! I BET YOU GOT PAID!"
>RLM give a critically acclaimed movie a negative review
>"CONTRARIANS! YOU JUST WANT YOUTUBE MONEY!"
No matter what RLM do autists like you will accuse them of being sellouts who only care about money.
Can't wait for the dust to settle and the general consensus become about the same as TFA (as in it's a turd) and you people to realize what a bunch of morons you were trying to defend this piece of shit movie.
>first sign
There were many more. Hobbit, Jurassic World..
I legitimately liked it and this is coming from someone who was meh about TFA
The first half was a little sloppy but the second half of the movie more than made up for it
But they hated Hobbit didn't they? Especially the last one.
They thought Prometheus was great, just a general reminder.
Their prequel videos were the only good thing they ever did
In the original cut nobody dies. Disney actually made it darker.
Personally, I enjoyed R1 more than TFA because does not shit on the original.
I do not think is a good movie, but i think too that modern productions work in a way that something genuinely good in a near-miracle.
Me, and I think many other people, are just mad at RLM hypocrisy and incoherence. If they panned TFA too, way less butthurt would have ensued, IMHO.
Prometheus was very flawed but not bad overall. Just like Rogue One.
TFA is a pathetic turd of a movie with no redeeming qualities.
>Hobbit
But they never gave a Hobbit movie a glowing review. They have very mixed feelings towards those movies.
>Jurassic World
Mike loved it but Jay thought it sucked.
>Me, and I think many other people, are just mad at RLM hypocrisy and incoherence.
And you people are insane. Get out more.
All Plinket videos bar the TFA and 2009 Trek ones are great
Bot5A is Phantom Menace level. You could dissect the movie using almost the same words of a plinkett review. They did not say nearly as much as the 10% they could have said about that movie. But they went full anal on R1 because is SW.
From critics I expect and demand more. Hacks.
Is like they were killed off some time
>great
You mean they thought it was a good but heavily flawed movie. Not everything is black and white, you retard.
>Mike loved it but Jay thought it sucked.
Was that the only movie where they disagreed?
>if Star Wars isn't about stormtroopers and tie fighters it's SHIT
Average SW fan everyone
So, did Justin Roiland liked their failed review?
Every samurai movie has katanas. Every ww2 movie has ww2 weapons.
How is this hard to understand?
In a movie-focused board we discuss movies and the industry, asshole. And we talk about critics when is needed.
If THIS disturbs YOU, you have to go back, ok?
Now avoid writing anything more you flatworm. Go back in your hole.
Do you not watch Re:View or Half in the Bag? Jay loves Escape from New York, Mike thinks it's boring. Jay loves The Blair Witch Project, Mike thinks it's just okay. Mike loves Independence Day: Resurgence, Jay thinks it sucks.
war/comabt movies do. Star WARS.
You are one of the dumbest motherfuckers I had the unluck to read here.
Mike has shit taste but at least he's kind of funny sometimes.
Jay has slightly better taste but none of the humor and he acts like a woman.
You do realize fans waited decades to see a good SW space battle right?
By your logic every American WWII movie is a Garand rifle jerkoff.
Compare to the review of R1. absolutely not the same standards used.
You're saying they're hypocrites for liking one movie over another. You're insane. Get out more.
What?
Sure thing.
Reminder that ESB was hated when it first came out.
Reminder that BvS was hated when it first came out and it is still hated today.
Your memearguments don't work.
He's right.
You are wrong, but I respect autists opinions.
I don't understand what he's talking about.
You are either autistic or retarded.
People are mad because of the double standard and the willing ignoring of the same very point they raised in a review about a movie of the same franchise.
Is not about the liking but about the analysis. I can discuss about "did you like it" with my cousin, from critics I expect more you pleb.
>failed review
It was pretty spot on, user. Stop crying.
>Reminder that ESB was hated when it first came out.
Except it wasn't. The general public always loved it, it got mixed reactions from critics but that's just because some of them didn't like that the movie ends on a big cliffhanger.
BvS is a complete turd.
RO is at 90%. Don't pretend it's the same shit.
this, minus the insults
Also, it was darker.
It really makes you think.
what tipped me off on the fact that the RLM fags are (entertaining) plebs is Jay's hatred for Roland Emmerich.
Sorry, meant this
sure buddy
>implying Roland Emmerich is patrician
He's one of the plebbiest filmmakers of all time. Most of his movies are mindless destruction porn.
Don´t forget interesting characters and better story.
Just like TFA.
>The general public always loved it, it got mixed reactions from critics
You mean exactly like RO?
Holy fuck it's below 90% what a turd!
>people are retarded if they like something i don't
i agree with you that R1 is better OP, but come on
>We are mad because they could look past the fanservice in TFA because of other positive aspects they liked but couldn't in R1 when the story and characters weren't engaging enough
Autism.
Because the makers of Space Cop get a say in who is the plebbiest filmakers of all time...