Why didn't America just conquer the whole thing, genocide the population and enslave whoever was left...

Why didn't America just conquer the whole thing, genocide the population and enslave whoever was left? It would've been better for everyone involved in the long run, I think.

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Maybe, maybe not. I think one reason is that the birth of thr USA was too close to the modern era to do it without severe repercussions from other nations.

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It's not like anyone could've stopped you.

To many brown people.
Northern states were literally empty, nobody wanted to go north because native fucked shit up. there was no infrastructure, Mexican government didn't give a fuck,etc.
In short, gringos didn't want to be non-white, hilarious when you examine the actual state of the USA.

they should have... at least they could get a true identity, but they rather waited and built on the shit from other countries and ended up with no identity after all

Why didn't they take all of the North? I doubt there was much people there outside of Tamaulipas and maybe Nuevo Leon.

You will be deported within 3 years.

Britain burnt our capital as late as 1812, for attempting to annex Canada

Not sure if they'd bother intervening a Mexican invasion, and Spain definitely wouldn't either.

>if you don't advocate for genocide then your a Mexican xDDD
Consider swallowing an unpinned grenade.

you gonna be okay, little guy?

They got BTFO in all fronts
KYS

You have to go back

I don't understand self haters. You're never gonna stop being Mexican, might as well be proud of your country and heritage.

I sure hate summer, tons of Americans get a chance to shitpost with our flag

>he still thinks the War of 1812 was about annexing Canada

Why didn't Mexico just conquer the whole thing, genocide the population and enslave whoever was left? It would've been better for everyone involved in the long run, I think.

>You're never gonna stop being mentally challenged, might as well be proud of your idiocy and behavior.

>Implying
You know, there are more good citizenships which are easier to obtain other than the american one.

I know further, sir, that we have never dreamt of incorporating into our Union any but the Caucasian race—the free white race. To incorporate Mexico, would be the very first instance of the kind of incorporating an Indian race; for more than half of the Mexicans are Indians, and the other is composed chiefly of mixed tribes. I protest against such a union as that! Ours, sir, is the Government of a white race. The greatest misfortunes of Spanish America are to be traced to the fatal error of placing these colored races on an equality with the white race. That error destroyed the social arrangement which formed the basis of society. The Portuguese and ourselves have escaped—the Portuguese at least to some extent—and we are the only people on this continent which have made revolutions without being followed by anarchy. And yet it is professed and talked about to erect these Mexicans into a Territorial Government, and place them on an equality with the people of the United States. I protest utterly against such a project.

Sir, it is a remarkable fact, that in the whole history of man, as far as my knowledge extends, there is no instance whatever of any civilized colored races being found equal to the establishment of free popular government, although by far the largest portion of the human family is composed of these races. And even in the savage state we scarcely find them anywhere with such government, except it be our noble savages—for noble I will call them. They, for the most part, had free institutions, but they are easily sustained among a savage people. Are we to overlook this fact? Are we to associate with ourselves as equals, companions, and fellow-citizens, the Indians and mixed race of Mexico? Sir, I should consider such a thing as fatal to our institutions.

LOL, all this pretentious shit has gone down the shitter, feels good to know that this man's country is infested with every fucking skin color ever :^)

Damn, straight out of Sup Forums.

You can't change your blood.

>being proud of being the result of Indian cucks offering their daughters and wives to Spanish drunks/bums to rape

Well at least when white people say they have a native ancestor in the future they will actually mean it.

Oh, then I'm a french-spaniard then, ok.

:^) (^:

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theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/01/why-is-the-undocumented-immigrant-population-dropping/426612/

foxnews.com/world/2016/09/08/growth-us-latino-population-slows-study-finds-due-to-falling-immigration-birth.html

soy americano amarillo pero hablo espanol un poco. pero naci aca. entiendenme?

why do you speak spanish? are you from cali or something

And then what are you?

t. Canadian on proxy
Invading Canada was just a result of the War, not the cause

Ok, and you have all the legal latin americans, indians, chinks and your nigger population left. Practically 50% of the US is strictly non-white.

Why would you learn a monkey language?

>mexico
>good at war
kek

You will never be a real American with that attitude.

si, soy half-chicano
quero aprender espanol para hablar con mis primos
please rate, shit/10 or what

>Why didn't America just conquer the whole thing
The same reason Mexico couldn't hold the southwestern states: geography. Power isn't easy to project across the desert that separates the two at the modern-day borders, so holding the Mexican heartland is neither feasible nor desirable for the United States. Sure, there can be military expeditions by both sides to temporarily disrupt the other, but long-term occupation and administration would be far too costly.

This is incidentally why Aztlan will never be a reality, despite the fevered dreams of chicanos on Sup Forums. It can never meaningfully unify with Mexico or maintain a strong military alliance with them due to natural geographical borders. In addition, the power of the eastern USA is so great that it doesn't even have to be consciously projected to utterly dominate the western half of the country.

callate, chicano vendido

Nigger mentality right there

9/10. don't use yellow to refer to yourself, just use asian like a normal person.

We could've, we just didn't want to. President Hoover (?) said that there were just too many amerindians.

Most CHIs have some idea about Aztlan being a separate state, few of them actually want to be part of Mexico.

It would just take a couple of button presses to turn Mexico into glowing green waste.

Because latina pussy.

the rest of latin america would still exist

muchas gracias user

did you skip the genocide part?

Trying to occupy and hold the Mexican heartland for very long would have been almost impossible, especially due to tropical diseases like malaria. Approximately 80% of American military casualties in the Mexican War were from disease rather than combat action.

So when are Mexicans going to rise up against their corrupt government?

It definitely was

>2017
>revolutions
That's only for sub-humans like Arabs or Slavs

Well how is Mexico ever going to develop with a corrupt and violent government that holds the economy back?

But mexicans are the sons of both brave Aztecs and sophisticated and worldly Spainards. I mean, it would such a disappointment for Mexico to not be good at war.

Aztlan would be even more of a non-starter as a separate nation. Despite controlling California, the naval power of the US would keep it blockaded and effectively make it a landlocked nation. Without access to imported foodstuffs, it would essentially starve as the vast majority of arable land in North America would lie outside of its borders.

Mexico also has no interest in a state like Aztlan emerging. At best, it would be another competitor for American capital and resources that Mexico desperately needs for industrialization, and at worst, it would become another cartel-dominated shithole that could threaten Mexico's national security.

Do all Mexicans hate themselves so much?

Even more than the Spaniards, surprisingly.

And he was right.

Spanishits suck at war and considering the Aztecs were defeated by them of all people they obviously sucked at it, too.

>sophisticated and worldly Spainards
lol

>Forget we only lost to the USA and France once

Well shit, I guess what I was told was wrong.

Is it wrong? They explored damn near everything.

>only once
Is there going to be a round two? I hope not.

Only the depressed neets on Sup Forums desu. I'm in Mexico right now and I haven't felt that sentiment at all.

couldn't aztlan just ship food from mexico? or rent ports here? i doubt you can maintain a blockade all the way from northern california to chiapas

>lose the most relevant wars in our history

Never, I'll rather help you beat some one else
>Forget France tried the second time to make us a client state

Well I hope you like Korean food, looks like that's where we're going next.

Hence the second part of the post. Mexico has no interest in a state like Aztlan existing. It can't meaningfully control the territory and from a geopolitical standpoint, can only see it as a competitor for American investment or a failed state that harbors hostile elements. Supporting Aztlan would also threaten the infrastructure that transports cheap American natural gas into Mexico.

The Mexican choice is really no choice at all - support a rogue state full of CHIs larping as Indios or become a fully-industrialized economic powerhouse?

That makes no sense. Why would America invest in a new country that rebelled against it?

>become a fully-industrialized economic powerhouse?
cause that's totally going to happen

>genocide the population

Germany tryed that with the jews and look how it turned out

Not with that sad attitude, mi amigo. You just need war or five to really get your people going and become like the United States.

pretty well, i'd say
invade us and make us like you

You underestimate Mexico's potential. It has a young, dynamic demography with a growing demand for consumer goods (in a world where all the other big players are rapidly aging into ruin), and it's adjacent to a nation that has the largest accumulation of capital in human history. The Mexican government knows this, which is why it's become significantly more friendly to foreign investment in the last decade.

With sufficient investment, Mexico will easily be one of the top ten economies in a few decades.

Okay, you really seem like I nice person, I like that, and I wish you were right, but here the thing: Our government is corrupt as fuck. Like, not just "corrupt", but CORRUPT, and most of the population thinks they can overcome bad government by "putting effort into their own thing", and anyone who dares to say otherwise is automatically labeled as a lazy commie.

Tribalism
That's our problem
The root of corruption and laziness is there

>corrupt
we literally have trump

Imagine how corrupt our government is, for me to say that I would prefer Trump's corruption anyday over our government's

Seriously.

Trump hides information and favors his businesses, our government literally steals tremendous amounts of money. Hell, one governor gave placebos to KIDS WITH CANCER to keep the money of the actual treatment.

Mexico pls invade

I'd rather have mexicans running this country than hondurans

>placebos to KIDS WITH CANCER
no fucking way.. this is fucking depressing to read. i hope that's just one isolated case of a massive faggot who should burn in hell.

no

I really want to see Duarte executed
And the thing that make me so fucking mad is the fact that his fucking wife will be able to keep the money and escape because fucking LOOP HOLES
It's a case of PRI

elfinanciero.com.mx/nacional/duarte-dio-agua-en-vez-de-quimioterapia-a-ninos-con-cancer-yunes.html

>El gobernador de Veracruz, Miguel Ángel Yunes, dijo que se está investigando a algunos exfuncionarios por haber presuntamente desviado recursos financieros del programa de Seguro Popular.

"Veracruz's governor said ex-politicians are being investigated for possible theft of financial resources from the public healthcare system"

Sadly, corruption within our politicians is not an isolated case. Violence, drugs and laziness ARE arguably isolated, but corruption is the actual problem we have always had. Thanks for the empathy with our children btw.

Kill yourself

What we need is a damn good war to get the smart juices flowing onto industry, instead of trickling into the USA by cherry-pickers.

>Imagine how corrupt our government is, for me to say that I would prefer Trump's corruption anyday over our government's

Just wait for when Obrador wins next year

Invade the Central America states (besides Panama) for a start.

triggered?

To be quite honest, we like to bant each other a lot, but nowadays latin americans don't hate each other unless provoked. There's some kind of brotherhood in the sense that we all feel deceived by our governments, and we all feel the same economic unsteadiness while trying to make ends meet every single month. We see no point in adding more shit to the fan.

Well, I'm rooting for Obrador. His whole campaign has been about dealing against corruption, yet he's only labeled as literally the devil because muh Venezuela. Capitalism or socialism, neither would work if we still have corruption. If the first president who manages to erradicate corruption is a full blown commie or literally hitler, I wouldn't care, but the step is needed regardless of who takes it.

I would have told you to fuck off last year
But after all of this shit. I'm willing to try the poison to cure the desease

Random question.
What do you guys think of this guy? Was he any good?

DO IT YOU CUNT. I'M ASKING YOU TO RAPE ME!! DO IT!!!!

This thread is a ridiculous self-hating crap, you can go a fucking african country, and be a slave with your chimp friends if that is you want

Speak for yourself, faggot, I don't like anyone south of the border. Ban Latin America immigration, I don't want a single one of them in this country.

Why are Mexicans so racist towards Blacks?

You make this thread every single day

they will outsource this task to el salvador

talk shit about someone else to take the attention off of you and make yourself look better

Literally useless. Not as in bad or good, but useless. Of course, in real life politics being a useless president yields bad results on the long run. Lotsa memes came from him though. People liked him as a person, but as a president he is known for doing nothing. Nostalgia effect is always present though, people like to praise any president after two terms have passed.

show me the lat one, then