Okay Sup Forums, I have a prediction, and I want you to gauge me on how accurate this theory is.
I think trap music is emerging to be a clearly distinct style of music separated from hip-hop, akin to how metal emerged from rock music in the late 70s and early 80s. In the 2020s, there are going to be a lot of trap producers that explicitly try to distance themselves from the hip-hop scene and view it as a less authentic and over-commercialized genre of music, also similar to how metal distances itself from rock.
I don't think it's invalid to say 'trap is the metal of hip-hop' for numerous reasons. It comes off as more hardcore, less commercialized, more masculine and more aggressive. Trap artists like Migos, 6ix9nine, Denzel Curry, and XXXTentacion are already distinguishing themselves fashion-wise by more often having long dyed dreadlocks and more tattoos.
The 2020s will also be a flourishing for more subgenres of trap - there's already a small 'vaportrap' sound, as well as drill, or the horrorcore style of Ghostemane, and I predict there will be many more styles to come based off of varying tempos, vocal aggresion, use of distorted synth and vocals, etc. This will be akin to the divergence of metal subgenres throughout the late 80s and 90s, when black metal, death metal, doom, sludge, stoner, and alt-metal emerged.
Radio will refuse to play most of these subgenres, but the artists will still get a significant following. Hell, it might even convert a lot of former metalheads.
Is my prediction accurate Sup Forums? Or just uninformed and stupid?
It will most likely be a fad that will fade faster than dubstep/brostep. You already said it, it has already been exploited with other meme genres like vaporwave. What else is there to do? Shock value means shit at this point, no matter how many tattoos on your face you get. Also there's nothing masculine or aggressive about rainbow colored dreadlocks, come the fuck on.
Logan Bell
The latter.
Sebastian Peterson
Not to use this as a thread to shamelessly plug my own shit, but as someone who growing up always wanted to front a hardcore punk or metal band but never got the chance to, I've been using the trend of distorted, short length beats as an outlet for my screamed vocals. The end result is very much a crossover amalgam of styles but it beats being a bedroom guitarist trying to make a metal magnum opus with a drum machine. I can already tell this is a growing trend in the underground
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Blake Scott
Yeah i agree to the point where shit getting blown out of proportion like 100 groupies a night blowing 500 thousand on dolphin statues 3 tour buses
so if we take mainstream appeal and financial potential of hip hop now and metal/hard rock in mid to late 80's i'd say the trajectory has been similar thus far
Anthony Torres
Well yeah, vaportrap will be easily forgotten, but that's besides the point.
But the shit like rainbow dreads basically just shows that stylistically there are much less boundaries in the trap scene. Wearing makeup and having long hair was never masculine, but it's still what made metal stylistically unique at its origin, and it did in a way re-appropriate it to make it seem more masculine, as well.
Elijah Howard
Trap is the punk of hiphop
Much lower production value Simpler lyrics. Kind of boiled down
The main difference is if you listen to punk rock thats fine and if you like trap you should gas yourself
Brody Murphy
If have to disagree. Hip hop has never really had any requirement for how intricate the lyrics are, and while there's a lot more wiggle room to throw in more complex lines with traditional hip hop beats, trap allows for a lot more screaming and yelling, like metal.
And I don't think production value has much to do with it either. It's still in its early phase, so it's not like records like Kill 'em All has great production either.
i think trap is less the metal of hip hop then it is like rock itself, with hip hop being the blues it gradually distances itself from. guys like 69 are definitely part of a kind of metalish movement right now though so i kind of agree.
Robert Mitchell
Correction; it's the nu-metal of hip-hop. Watch it die and be an embarrassment for everyone into the genre in less than 7 years.
Coincidentially all the people I know who still listen to rapcore/mallcore are really into trap music
Eli Reyes
True, but we have to distinguish between the trap and this new thing that ghostmane and BONES are doing right now. That acctually sounds like the Punk of Hip-Hop, there is a lot of trap out there where its basically all just about drinking lean and bragging. This new thing should get a name and distance itself from Hip-Hop. Metal is a bit the decline and as a Metalhead myself im happy to have found something simmillar that is still close to what im used to.
Sebastian Phillips
>True, but we have to distinguish between the trap and this new thing that ghostmane and BONES are doing right now. I mean, you aren't too wrong, but I think it's a slippery slope to force this distinction especially at a point where it's still kind of race-divided, with Ghoste and BONES still having mostly a white following. It kind of runs the risk of just appropriating a unique style and marketing it towards a white audience, akin to what Elvis did to blues. Not good.
I find it odd how when Ghoste and BONES rap about being suicidal and depressed, it sounds cool to white people, but when black rappers do the same thing except with the context of cops, ODing on drugs, or whatever, white people think it's just silly thug shit.
Like it's disappointing how when I hear a lot of new trap music, I can't really tell what race they are based on their voice, but when I look up their live footage, it still seems so race divided.
Aaron Price
oh man that Jigsaw tattoo hahaha
Robert Reyes
it's already an embarrassment.
literally talk to anyone outside US. In my own humble opinion, I think this emo-trap phase is this popular because of mass mental illness occuring in America
Hunter Phillips
Hip Hop died with Eminem and Jay-Z , turned into Rap. Trap to me personally is Gucci and Thug et al. The music xxx and lil peep are making seems something else again. It seems like a good chance of mutating into a new rock genre. Remember please Emo was a 2002 initiative and as such a poor moniker for what is going down. Whether UK grime follows the US evolution we are listening to is a edge of seat topic in this household. Shits fire y'all.
Ethan Kelly
congratulations on making the stupidest post of all time.
Christopher Stewart
You know I'm right.
Noah James
wrong its the punk rock of hip hop. nice autistic essay tho.
Grayson Cooper
it's the eurodance of hiphop
Jayden Hill
Good metal is transcendental... trap is about as base as music can be
Michael Hernandez
TEKASHI wants you to know that a bully only picks on you because he’s threatened by you.. insecure for his own reasons. You are the king/queen always stay humble with your head up & your grass cut
Henry Edwards
>Not to use this as a thread to shamelessly plug my own shit >shamelessly plugs own shit
Jose Russell
i think trap has been around for much longer than y'all think it has
Ryder Myers
It's in its early phases. Don't tell me Sabbath was ever transcendental.
Landon Martinez
DOES NON-TRAP INFLUENCED HIP HOP EVEN EXIST ANYMORE?
Oliver Wood
>transcendental
Grayson Rivera
>see 6IX9INE >dismiss him completely >what a fuckin joke this kid is >how the fuck hasn't he been killed yet for looking like such a fucking retard? >*fast forward three months* >finally listen to GUMMO >mfw it's actually really fucking good >mfw he's actually my new favourite up and coming rapper
Austin Torres
>HIP HOP aside from legacy acts. I gave up at this point
Levi Hill
Shit taste
John Allen
can you imagine someone making this awful thread about like fety wap a few years ago. Oh hey, remembr him.
Man i fucking hate rap faggot
Joseph Sullivan
i just don't like your voice bro
Benjamin Adams
I think nearly everything labelled hip hop/rap after about 2005 is literally just pop music by black men.
Its just labelled hip hop/rap because they are young and black.
Christopher Williams
I'm for the most part a former 'metalhead' and I love Bones, Lil Peep, Ghostemane, and other associated rappers. That being said I think they are more along the lines of underground hip-hop and not necessarily trap but for the most part take a lot of influence from trap instrumentation.
Tyler Murphy
there's some transcendental trap man fr and some shitty ass plebeian fucking metal what is your point
Josiah Phillips
dont talk trash on HHH
Grayson Sullivan
>First song is an account of an acid trip so intense their drummer saw satan himself in broad fuggin daylight >serves as a sort of coda for the rest of the bands subject matter
No trancendentalism here
Levi Rodriguez
what does this have to do with anything
Austin Cruz
it literally is glam rock of hip-hop. how can none of you stupid people see that
Owen Kelly
this stupid faggot will be gone a few years from now replaced by some other stupid lil faggot
Grayson Price
>find out about this new rapper named trippie redd >start to check out his shit >listen to poles1469 >decide to check out the rainbow headed nigga >listen to hellsing station >fuckthisisgood.jpg >1 month later >trippie redd comes out with pedo allegations >"aight this nigga's just a one-hit wonder and he gonna fade into obscurity while trippie takes over the rap game" >fast forward like two months >gummo drops >shit barely hits 1M views >"ha knew this nigga wasn't shit" >two or three weeks later >shit starts to blow up for no reason >all of my normie friends are listening to it >they completely ignore the pedo allegations >"yo this shit slaps bruh" >one month later he pleads guilty to the pedo allegations >gummo is still getting more popular and my normie friends are still listening to it >whatthefuck.png >two weeks later >kooda drops >holy shit this is actually good >however my personal philosophy of not supporting coons interferes with my enjoyment >1 month later >keke drops >not as good as kooda, but it's still good >listen to both songs constantly >tfw i'm supporting an admitted pedophile and a coon
Andrew Ross
Gummo's a better meme than other trap but that's about it
Nicholas Price
No, disco and house are the blues of hip hop
Cameron Taylor
Trap has been around for years white boy. Just because your favorite faggot "cultured" hipster soy latte blog started selling it to you as a "new" thing last year to make themselves seem cool and down with the working class folk, doesn't make it new.
Lincoln Lopez
>using faggot as an insult >2018
What fucking age are you,13?
Nathaniel White
jesus crhist what happned to Sup Forums are you a bunch of faggot loving homo's all the sudden?
Jaxon Allen
its Sup Forums you literally cannot guess how gay someone is for posting here other than the baseline for using Sup Forums
Andrew Lewis
I wouldn't say it's more masculine, and that's probably what I enjoy about it.
Julian Long
Ideally so, yeah. Catch up with the times, gay is the future.
I think adjust your prediction with this in mind and it sounds spot on.
Austin Allen
but you called him a new friend too.
infinite loop of new friends calling each other new friends because they called each other new friends.
good thread for such posts, gentlemen. keep up the stereotype of the followers of this scene.
Charles Scott
this
Logan Hall
Trap music is actually really huge in South America and Spain for some reason.
Oliver Perry
Maybe you are on to something but it sucks bc trap appeals to niggers, gays, and sluts
Owen Collins
He likes the BBC.
Cameron Fisher
It's still retarded objectively bad nigger trash music.
Jose Parker
Lmao no
Jaxon King
nah dude lil peep was/is HUGE in russia as are pretty much all the sad xanax rappers, this also applies to most eastern bloc countries here in the UK it's on the radio all the time and you can't go a day without hearing XO tour lif3, also grime is becoming more and more trap influenced i live most of the year in the netherlands and trap has overtaken all the hiphop stations and non-free parties even korea, china and japan are making trap hell, a fucking swede kickstarted half of this shit it's not just an american thing i think he makes more sense than the op, soundcloud trap is diy as fuck, they forego complex rhymes in favor of rhyming nigga with nigga, they just throw shit on soundcloud without mastering it and there's no labels or anything involved also they're mostly despicable child rapists and abusers, like most punks the only thing he's wrong about is that people who listen to punk should also fucking gas their shitty selves
Cameron Peterson
>metal and hip hop, hip hop becoming more ambiguous and obscure
>doesn't mention spaceghostpurpp, xavier wulf, bones, lil ugly mane, actual artists that bridged the gap for these genres
Logan Foster
forgot lil peep as well, rip
Leo Wood
Trap is like the crunk of 2017/18 and look how well crunk went
Kayden Sullivan
the guy talking to doesn't understand that yung lean, sgp and basedgod are the originators of all this shit and yung lean is 100% swedish
Cameron Cox
It's a fad that will die when all the white frat boys and thots grow up and have kids and shit. Much like 80's glam we'll look back upon it as a stylistic nightmare filled with sub-par music.
David Green
niggas be peering into they crystal balls itt
Bentley Williams
Jay Z = Led Zeppelin Gucci Mane = The Ramones
Dispute this
Jonathan Hill
gucci has more talent in his ice cream tat than all of the ramones combined fucking boyband
Matthew Moore
ghostemane is just a three 6 mafia rip off
Josiah Diaz
um,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
no lmfao i don't even like him much but just no
if anything suicideboys are 36 rip offs
John Ramirez
fuck your scene
David Cooper
Memphis hip hop is the black metal of hip hop.
Thomas Baker
/thread
Connor Cooper
best genre of hip hop too
coincidence? I think not
David Butler
It's certainly one of the most creative ones
Mason Morales
Nothing is the "x" or anything, music genres don't go in generational patterns, every decade has been different. Trap appropriates some aesthetics from metal and is otherwise nothing like it
Adrian Scott
Would Vapor-trap be considered people like Soudiere, Dj Smokey, and NxxxxxS?
I dont really mind it but ive just started listening to them
