The Man in the High Castle Thread:
Is Reichsminister Martin Heusmann our guy?
>Plans a dam that will irrigate all of Africa
>Wants a Better reich
>Wants to destroyed the shitting Jap Empire
>Has the balls to nuke 32 million people
>Aesthetically pleasing human to look at
Or is John Smith still our guy
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>Has the balls to nuke 32 million people
>Wants to destroyed the shitting Jap Empire
Good
>Plans a dam that will irrigate all of Africa
Bad
John Smith is still /ourguy/ but he needs to come up to bat, or get the fuck out of the way
Ubergroupon fuhrer was one of the only interesting characters in season one
In the book and the show they already said that Africa had been nuked and cleansed of all niggers
They're building the dam so whites can colonize and farm the land
git gud
No. Frank is our guy. I used to hate him for being such a beta bitch, but he showed some real heart in sticking it to the japs
Also, fuck Juliana, literally the worst character in any show ever
The Chief Inspector is our guy
>implying they'll add that part in the show
They'll probably have the Nazi's collapse and the Africans will flood Europe
She got better in s2 i thought. Bringing her into the Reich really breathed some new life into her character. Frank was literally the only one I couldn't give two shits about.
I think they already exterminated everyone, they had Heydrich talk about his campaign in Africa exterminating sub-humans
>She got better in s2 i thought.
Are you serious? Have you not watched the finale? She's fucking terrible
Acting like a complete retarded child, her wounded bird shit that based Smith called out and killing Dixon to save a nazi
Ever since she let Blake go, I wanted her dead.
>tfw no Nazi father to look out for me
John Smith is a saint brehs
John Smith is a comfy American dad
>conquer the world
>build the greatest civilization the planet has ever seen
>still can't escape dying of old age
Hitler made me feel feels.
Bruh that was the best part with her and Dixon. And what she did to protect Thomas was right in line with her character
>implying Smith isn't /ournazi/
>And what she did to protect Thomas was right in line with her character
Yeah, of being a dumb bitch that can't see the bigger picture. She's stuck in her feelings and killed her half-sister's father to save a nazi
Yeah, but that nazi stopped a third world war and another genocide, so she killed one guy to save millions
Yeah, but she didn't know that at all. She just acted exactly like she did with Blake; like a pre-teen girl with a crush.
She knew that if that guy ended up dead on that alley, then SanFran wouldn't be nuked, sure she didn't knew it was because that would stop the war from starting, but she knew it would save her family and the people she loved.
No she didn't, she didn't do it because of that, she did it because he had the tape of her and thomas talking. Juliana is a fucking cunt and I wish the resistance would just kill her
Her slamming that guy into a table that was trying to choker her with a wire, him instantly being knocked out, the resistance lady fumbling with her gun then getting choked out by Juliana was fucking retarded and I was hoping they would kill her
She did actually, it even shows the fucking footage before she shoots him so we can see what is going through her mind.
Thats not going through her head dumb fuck, its just to remind the audience. She literally tells him to give her the recording or she'll shoot. you think if he handed it over she'd still shoot?
After his Smith's son sudokus, they'll probably investigate and (try) to kill him and his whole family for carrying a defect. Smith will then to betray the Reich
If there was no subhumans left, why did some of the younger nazis think the dam was still a bad idea?
IIRC they thought that draining the Mediterranean would be bad for the environment.
>implying he isn't our guy
a very underrated character
Nah, I think that the next season will be about Americans rising up against the Japs/Germans, already hinted at with the executions of civilians in San Francisco - could also be aggravated if the films were made public showing an alternative America (e.g. the one that the Trade Minister was in)
Is it just me or does this show put the Nazi's in a halfway decent light?
>Most want peace
>Most of them are good people despite ridiculous purity laws and absence of Christianity
>Stylish and good looking
>Humanizes even freaking Himmler
I'm not an outwardly racist person, though I am Volkisch and want white people to be proud of their heritage.
When I get a gf, I plan on showing this to her to make her volkisch as well
I'm full Sup Forums here and even I think that the Nazis are the good guys. The Reich society is literally 1950's American golden age. Also love how Hitler and Himmler are the good guys. Just like IRL
Way better than 50's American golden age.
2nd best character on the show. Had more cool stuff to do in S1 though. He seemed underutilized in S2. Also RIP his sergeant.
Omg what! He's an evil nazis they were bad guys nazi bad hitter bad holocaust six million
the show frames them as the good guys yes
John Smith is obviously our guy since he's being redpilled to the evil and absurd nature of National Socialism.
He's being written as the insider that destroys the Nazis.
at least you can live a normal life in the Pacific States
If the resistance were to somehow actually push back and reclaim America, John Smith would be the first to die. Traitorous scum. Switched sides to the Nazis the moment his home country surrendered.
Is it actually explained how the Nazis/Japs won the war, besides nazi nukes?
I mean the odds were pretty heavily against them.
>implying Robert the weeb isn't /ourguy/
>implying NatSoc America isn't way better than democratic America in about every aspect
You can't prove me wrong.
Some time travel bullshit I think.
>Is it actually explained how the Nazis/Japs won the war
Yeah.
FDR was assassinated in his first term and Charles Lindbergh won the '36 election. The US never embargoed Japan and thus Pearl Harbor was avoided so the US never entered the war. Germany also didn't invade Russia in 1941 but delayed till after conquering Britain. Germany beats Russia with help from Japan and then they both invade the US in '46 and the Nazis nuke DC killing all of the people in line to become president (people didn't know what an a-bomb was before this.) American gov't collapses and the leaderless soldiers desert/are massacred/become ineffectual guerrillas.
Not actually explained, but a good theory I read was that Hitler was becoming aware of future technology and strategies through the tapes.
Hitler/Germany looking at the future tapes could also explain why Germany is so advanced in technology. They already got rockets for travel and nice trains in Berlin. But another explanation for that just could be the sheer potential of German engineering and efficiency. Imagine being able to make technological innovations without worrying about human rights. You could use as much slave labor and inhumane shit because the Nazis like to get shit done.
i thought season one was only OK and almost didn't watch season two. i just finished it tonight and goddamn, this shit is pure kino
>the two garbage male leads get fucked by the end
>the garbage female lead actually has an interesting storyline this time
>the shit with the films is actually explained to a degree
>based obergruppenfuhrer and kido get lots of screentime and are the literal heros this season
>resistance is made to look bad basically the entire season and basically get fucked by the end
the writers are pretty fucking based, but i don't think this will be winning any awards for making the jap and nazi characters unquestionably more likable than the resistance guys.
why shouldn't she have killed Dixon? that guy was a fucking asshole and basically only went through the motions of trying to protect her despite being practically family. she definitely did the right thing, though its kind of undercut by the fact that the kid is going to die anyway
Anyone else glad that Jap rebel is dead?
Im more shocked Frank is dead
>Lebensborn
>brown hair
>brown eyes
????????
If there's one guy that'll live as long as humanity, it'll be Hitler.
Frank was such a disappointment. I thought he was going to shed his cuck ways when he fucked the jap girl, but then he basically stone walled her afterwards even though she still seemed into him. And it seemed to be implied Ed has a thing for Jules, so I'm sure in the end either he or Joe will end up with her. And then he fucking failed to kill Kido despite shooting at him at point blank range and detonating a bomb below him. Truly a cuck to the end, I'm very glad we wont be seeing him next season. Hopefully Joe dies in prison so we can be rid of him too.
Ed is just gonna be in a hetero relationship with Gildan. They will live together in the neutral zone, swindling people. One day it'll be really cold and Ed will ask if it's ok if he spends the night in Gildan's bed...
the actor's english he can't help it
Ed is gay
That's why Frank told him "They gas people like you too there"
Are all episodes out
no, its because he's defective due to his lung issues. juliana even asked that guy at the funeral what would happen to him if he was in the reich
There is only one the Japs fear.
In their tongue, he is "Onii-chan", the LEBESBORN
>kido, smith, and tagomi basically heros of the season
>even himmler kind of came off as feeling like a good guy since he sided with smith
>meanwhile, gary, dixon, and the woman in NY are painted as fucking assholes
>even lem is extremely unlikable in almost every scene he's in
>the one nice resistance girl dies in the first episode of the season
yeah, this show is pretty pro-Axis it seems. even the japanese general is pretty likable in some of his scenes with kido
I bet in one of the alternate realities, all those heros of the axis were key players in the allies winning ww2
wonder if we will see that in season 3
Ja wohl, kameraden.
I thought it was pretty cool that the younger generation in Germany is a bunch of hippies who have drug orgies and care about the environment and shit. It makes it seem a bit more real to see the younger generation rebelling and trying to be different from their parents.
Fuck Frank I'm glad he's dead.
>caring about the environment
>rebelling against the Nazis
Wew
The scary part aren't the nazis but how humanity can be driven to infinite alternative futures based on ideas.
Dude, protectionism (as in, caring about the environment) was invented by nordicists.
And? The Nazi's in the show are not protectionists. They're planning on radically re-designing the earth. That's what the environmentalist kids are against. Did you watch the show?
>tfw the actor is a pinoy.
Disgrace and dishonor to the real master race.
I can definitely see him changing allegiance midway season 3. If you add his son's death, it wouldn't be crazy.
Oh I didn't know that. I thought he may have been like Japanese but raised in Brazil since his name is Joel De La Fuente but now that I think about it, that name is as Pinoy as it gets.
Also he went to UCLA so he is a smart guy~
How would he change allegiance if he is the new leader of all of the nazis? I could see him changing a lot of nazi laws.
Is Frank ded? Did they show his body?
>How would he change allegiance if he is the new leader of all of the nazis?
He is not...
hes not the new leader he just got acknowledged
himmler is probably the new leader
also did hitler really get poisoned i get the impression both sides are using fake poisoning to consolidate their position
If I am in to history, will I like this show?
Or is it "turn your brain off" shit like The Americans?
I figured saying he died a natural death would imply that the great Fuhrer was a mere mortal that was weak in health. Saying he got poisoned shows that it takes poison to kill him, and had he not been poisoned, he would still be alive and kicking.
You may appreciate a lot of the names and videos. I know next to nothing about the Nazi chain of command, but my dad watched the show and told me all the names were true and how when he was growing up, they learned all about the Nazis. He also told me how much better the world would have been if the Nazis won.
>not caring about the environment
>still expecting a thousand year empire
Well then
>Those final 15 seconds of the season 2 trailer where the characters mirror up against themselves.