Sup Forums is under seige

24 hours ago, Sup Forums was raided as part of a coordinated effort. The raids have let up but the trolling hasn't. If Sup Forums is "just another shit image board", then why is it considered a containment board? Either Sup Forums accepts its fate to be invaded by nameless hordes, or, you get your collective shit together and fight. Fight for the rights you claim to believe in. Because if you don't, you might as well not have them.

I get the copy-trolls doing "one post" and shit, but this is easily solved. If you have an actual topic, follow up a minute later, or better yet, split your topic into two postings - while not a surefire way to indicate a quality post, it at least shows you are putting some nuanced effort into it (although you can easily shitpost twice, but hey, I'm suggesting, not demanding).

Ditch the usual troll topics: black cock, oh lookie there's a Negro over there, "derp I'm a liberal here's ", etc. Stick with an argument, provide facts, back it up with something. Because each time you do, the truth shines out a little more.

And they don't want the truth to be known.

Other urls found in this thread:

pastebin.com/yRRazMzB
theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/
pastebin.com/mcAFeX9g
twitter.com/AnonBabble

And to stop the confusion around the "one post shit", here's my follow-up posting. I'm going to stick around for at least 30 minutes and try to respond.

Bumping for relevancy. Remember Sup Forumsharbor!

Bump

Daily reminder we are at war and the mods are fucking sleeping at the moment.

Report all shill/troll threads, hide them, sage them but don't take the bait.

We will never give up and their efforts are in vain.

Thank you user for your bump. As promised, as OP, I am sticking around. If all the real OPs would at least stick around for 5 minutes, it would (by guesstimate) probably cut the shitposts in half.

And then people - not the sockpuppets doing the raids, but the ones that put them up to it - would really get scared. Scared that we might notice hard evidence, and use logic and reason.

The shills are obfuscating with jew hating threads and nigger hating threads.

Please be vigilant and ignore shill threads.

At this point Sup Forums is just trolling itself

I was documenting the non organic posts and the fuck tard mods banned me because they are in cahoots with shitting up pol

Have mods from all around the world.

>>Would make sense

I'm out. Be back in a few days.

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DO YOUR JOBS MODS.

>one post containing an opinion that differs from mine is enough to change my mind.

Considering that you Sup Forumstergeists only ever leave this containment board to flame, shitpost and derail all the other boards and seem to have forgotten the lessons learned after you got trolled silly in retaliation for doctoring Ben Garrison's political cartoons, I would say that this board deserves another series of raids.

Wow, you guys take your internets way too serious.

Boogeymen exist in your closet, not on Sup Forums

While I am all for fighting for our shitpost HQ, how do we fight off an enemy that would compromise our values to fight? By eliminating the shills, are we not ourselves taking the first steps to becoming Reddit-tier cancer?

OP here. If you have real information to share, give links to the archive, so we can at least screen-scrape it. I'm 100% serious. Even if it is a disagreement or opposing view, it is important to hear BOTH sides of a story, so that the reader can make their own mind up. There are people that don't like the idea that you can think and choose for yourself, they would rather you just believe whatever they tell you...

Don't ever think that the Internet is forever. It isn't. In the two decades I've been using it, I've watched shit come and go. It's only "forever" as long as it stays up. But try to find a 15+ year old news article on a website, you usually don't. Shit gets "old", and deleted. The problem is, some of that shit is real history, it tells a story that someone might not want you to read. And that story might change your perception of reality - because you suddenly realize just how much you were lied to, or how much was "omitted" so that you never knew.

We don't need to live in the past, but to forget it is to forget our identity of who we are and where we came from.

10 cents has been deposited into your paypal account, thanks for correcting the record!

We have had a general up about this for three days now. I recommend every one go there and read the OP. It has instructions on how to fight this.

REDPILL THE NORMIES
MEME WAR NOW

It probably came across that way, but that wasn't the intent. I'm trying to raise Sup Forums a notch. Something that other boards have long since given up on, and they're now overrun with PC bullshit speak.

>Zyklon Ben not one of us after he got redpilled on leftist cucks

Your memes are out of date, faggot.

OP, you need to know that they are now replying once or twice before they leave the thread. It is always in the first couple of posts.

And last night when they caught on to us, they started using non-American proxies to spam >1 post
and call us crazy in the second general.

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I've always been fascinated by the weird defense mechanisms that imageboards have against attack. If an invasion thread is funny, we just turn it into a meme of our own. If it's not funny, we should just ignore it. This means that even if tons of shill threads are posted, the biggest effect they can have is to reduce visibility and push things off the board.

Derailing good threads is another issue but a little discipline in not feeding the trolls will go a long way there.

I'd suggest also to not browse on the front page, but on a page further back as you'll be more helpful keeping real threads from dying.

>This means that even if tons of shill threads are posted, the biggest effect they can have is to reduce visibility and push things off the board

That is the goal.

A self perpetuating troll that can never be disproven because anything to the contrary is part of the conspiracy. We have entered a new era of meta-trolling.

Pic very related.

Yea I was there when a Bosnian bro was being spammed and accused of trying up schizophrenic hysteria by these fucks.


But stuff like the US draft BTFOing feminists, the pro-gay pro-gun (pro-trump?) #shootback movement, and the shameless EU distracted by Brexit not falling back by the killing is pushing back the crooked narratives here and has given us some breathing room.

We can do this if we stay organized and do our part to filter the shills.

Hold true to values - specifically, hold true to rational thought. It is the loss of rational thought that makes the shill stand out, it is the repetition of "the big lie" that makes it possible to drown Sup Forums's real threads.

Eliminating the shills comes not by tossing them out (i.e. stooping to their level) but by noticing the cancer to begin with, and voiding it by non-response. It's one thing to see a shill single post in a thread but it's another to do 100+ postings to what is obvious crap.

I've seen enough cointelpro crap to sniff out the low quality stuff, but some short-timers haven't had the "pleasure" of shifting through the half-truths and mounds of steaming shit. It's time to not only have logical fallacies listed for us, but to also see and know overt manipulation, or at least try to detect it.

I realize that my own postings are subject to this same criteria. But I also point out that I am asking you to think for yourself, and to question me. I am not a God, I am a mortal man, and I can make mistakes. Question me, question everything. That is the difference - these people do not want you to question, they want you to be PLIANT and GET IN LINE.

This. This right here. This is but one of the means of attack. By "sliding" you have the same effect as suppressing the information to be seen, because unless you know to look for it, how would you know it is there? The only way would be to constantly monitor the archives and sift through them all. They win two ways, either by removing the information from sight, or by forcing you to increase your effort in return - which diminishes your chances of truly finding something important (to you).

JUSTICE WILL FIND THE LIGHT
BUMP

You were what?

this thread has me thinking quite a bit

Mate there is no way to fight it. Back when the board was created it was easy to tell when people were shilling. And of course during election periods there will be more shills, but this goes beyond that. If I were to be new here today I probably wouldn't know just how many shills there are. The lingo of this board has been usurped by shills and the culture has drastically changed. the only thing we can really do is tell people in obvious bait/shill threads that that is what they are. In fact it's easier to count the real threads. Redpill threads, holohoax threads, men discrimination threads, pedowood threads, anti Semitic threads, space elevator threAds and now zero hour threads. Also only a quarter of happening threads are real now, to devalue them with quantity most likely.

Many redditor groups, tumblr groups, college students, Jidf and even infinitychan Sup Forums shitlord signpost on here. Now we have political campaigns on our board as well. Just screencap this and post it when newfriends come to dine here.

Also another thing I've noticed is there are a plenthora of bots that reply to shill threads. At this point it is only obvious to us oldies or seasoned lurkers, most of the user base here will not pick up on all this.

You really want to believe that Sup Forums is that important, don't you.

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>the lingo of this board has been usurped by Reddit
Ftfy

I'm not even sure this is a raid as much as it is what happens to every board when it gets too big.

I've seen it happen before to a few boards. The first being Sup Forums of course.

Basically the board gets some recognition or becomes notorious in the news, then you get a new influx of people from various other places. These people are often somewhat aware of "trolling" culture but not so much aware of the board culture. So when they arrive they just assume the first thing they see is how the board is and how it always has been so they just copy that shit forever. Another thing they do is they bring in shitty memes from elsewhere and they attack the boards actual population as being new for not knowing them to pretend that they are the ones in the know.

I believe that because Sup Forums recently got some talk in the news and so forth we are getting people from reddit, Sup Forums and twitter flocking here and they are the ones fucking shit up.

You sound like a faggot. One post is just a meme to counterattack shills and trolling.

bump

What is important? That people be informed, awake, make their decisions? Or that they accept apathy? If Sup Forums isn't important, and quite frankly it's one of the few, last places where people can discuss topics without revealing their identity, then what does that say about us? About our societies? What does it say when we can't speak up about wrongdoing when we fear retaliation for pointing it out? What does it mean that we have to have a section of an image board that allows us to post these topics because there isn't a safe place to discuss this with rational thought?

If Sup Forums means nothing, then by all means, don't bother reading. This is the net effect of what you are suggesting. If Sup Forums has any meaning, then it is that not everyone ignores reality, and we can agree to disagree without having weapons pointed at us.

Reddit has influenced it but those fags are nothing compared to Jidf who have been using hasbara bots every hour every day for the last three years. Redditors only took a keen stance on Sup Forums for the duration of whatever their liberal focus is, that being of the current possible presidencies. Jidf have always had one goal, however. Slide it and shut it down. They fear people knowing the truth, and that's a fact.

>spherecuck detected

Why isn't this a sticky? If a board is constantly raided, the least the mods can do is give some advice to the summerfags.

>the only thing we can really do is tell people in obvious bait/shill threads that that is what they are.

That doesn't work though. As soon as you do that, the retards catch on that being labeled as bait or a shill is a bad thing they will begin to label everything and everything they disagree with as bait or shill.

For a long time people from reddit have been coming here and when you call them out they will then accuse you of being from reddit or new it's an old tactic they use to deflect away from themselves.

It's a common go to tactic for new trolls to accuse others of being new or from elsewhere then the new but honest users will assume that that new troll is the old user and follow and agree with him because they also don't want to be called out as new.

The for fucks sake, CHANGE THE STICKY. Get the mod to actually do something. Don't just include logical fallacies, but also include information on PR, cointelpro, limited hangouts, forum sliding, basic etiquette rules on debating topics, etc. Make the sticky have truly useful information, instead of the equivalent of a daycare poster that reads "be nice to each other, mommy is stepping out for a few". Because just leaving that up and expecting people to not notice the bullshit going on is of course going to ask for the trouble we have RIGHT NOW.

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Arguing with and fighting the raiders, shills and trolls is half the fun of this place though?

Get out, fucker. Just get the fuck out. Go find another shill joo thread to shit up. This is strictly a Sup Forums meta thread and not some bullshit. I am making an effort to have rational discussion.

Non Jewish leftists are mentally vulnerable to (((Money Printer))) exposure.

Hammer the unjust nature of the money printing scheme that runs nearly all Fiat Currency in the USA and the rest of the world.

Say things like, wow there are sure a lot of Jews involved. I though you said Jews were the best people on earth. You sure were mad about it when you thought it was white Christians.

Important in the sense of having any sort of impact in the political arena. People think of this place as if it's some sort of strategic point in the context of Trump's campaign, all this paranoia about people are trying to shut us off through raids. It's laughable. We aren't having any fucking impact, we shitpost 24/7 and make shitty memes.

>is half the fun of this place though
Elsewhere. Otherwise, why bother calling it "containment"? You're saying it's a joke of a joke because of an outside joke, if that's true. In which case, no-one cares that the greenback is dying, that the Brexit is being manipulated big time by the very government that is supposed to respond to its own people, etc. etc.

Save stupid shit for Sup Forums.

C>
o3
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Mind posting any content that could help with recognizing overt manipulation? Also, do you think we need a new hardliner-style mod to clean up the blatant off-topic shill threads, or would we be better off ignoring those all together as well?

"Joo" fucking shill right here

The sad part is I'm finding better quality posting in /t/orrents, and it's overrun by really shitty porn. Buried in there are bits and pieces of real information, real art, etc. and not just a bunch of weeboo tits and ass.

So this is how anonymous ends. With not just a whimper, but an actual roll-over and lube up. And to think, this board at one time made a fucking DENT in Scitard income through active protests. Something that GOVERNMENTS couldn't do, nor private citizens.

This is the true power of Sup Forums in that it has the last shreds of what was a great site. Now it is filled with whores, people selling their bodies for money by shitposting political memes that are meant to disrupt any discussion...or discovery.

When you bring up this with a jew they always brush it off and say "well, that's because we are smarter". But if you say the same thing about blacks not succeeding in business or test scores they go "oy vey that is very dangerous talk, you are sounding like a white supremacist."

I'm never seen a jew that didn't have a superiority complex.

I've also noticed that the only goo blacks are one's that don't have an inferiority complex.

pastebin.com/yRRazMzB
that's the pastbin on possible Shill factory we found linked to the Hillary campaign last night

(facepalm) really? I've been posting to my own fucking thread for nearly an hour. So I sit here saying "sit down, think it through, try to raise standards, realize when you are being psyop'd" but I'm the shill?

>(face palm)
HOLY SHIT. Fuck off Reddit shill.

Holy shit bless you. ill post updated pastebin shortly so it won't be slid and I can finally fucking sleep

This happens all the time. This isn't the first time a board died. The scene is always reborn elsewhere and the newfags who ruined it are left to rot.

I mean just think, Sup Forums was once the hotbed that Sup Forums became. It declined in just the same way. Go visit Sup Forums now. There is nothing fresh there now. It hasn't changed for years. It's like it's frozen in stasis since the faggots killed it.

whatever. If I was reddit, or better yet not an oldfag who remembers Sup Forums from 4 years ago (and the use of facepalm on Sup Forums was high then), then you'd know this...but you don't.

Do you see me parading around political opinion? How to vote? Tell you how you can have sex? Make you change your speech?

The only shill here seems to be you.

>It's a common go to tactic for new trolls to accuse others of being new or from elsewhere then the new but honest users will assume that that new troll is the old user and follow and agree with him because they also don't want to be called out as new.

You are too new to realize you are using Jidf memes then faggot. Only Jidf would ever say "joos"and now people unironically steal it as if it is normal. like said get the Fuckkk off the board

jesus man I just went to b, what a shithole, nothing of value

Really bad right now. Wait it out, they'll get bored and leave after a few days. Ignore it and wait it out.

These faggots will go away, we might have to fight them until the election but they will not stick around. They are fake, we are real, that's the difference

>14 posts by this ID
Wow, what a fucking autist. I'm glad my taxes aren't subsidizing your welfare desu

So how exactly can you tell the difference between a shill thread and an honest argument?

if op doesnt post within first 15 responses i let it slide.
sad u have to sub vet ,kills the fun of fucking with idiots.

I have 15 fucking shill/troll threads hidden on the catalog right now, where are the fucking mods? Earlier they were deleting them pretty fast. Wake up mods!!!

14 posts, a call to action, asking for discussion, trying to bring rational thought to the thread, and YOU accuse me of some kind of bullshit.

I know what JIDF stands for, I know j00 triggers you badly (like the SJW you really are). I know that you are actually doing the very thing I am fighting against - trying to slide and derail discussion.

I'll fuck off after you gently tongue my ass you whimpering little faggot. Get down there and be sure to clean it up.

Nice try, and a very shitty attempt.

Here's some light reading. Something that I wouldn't offer if I was real JIDF, because I would be directing you away as fast as possible, instead of trying to expose the tactic.

theintercept.com/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipulation/

What do you have to offer, other than exposing yourself for who you really are?

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>Inb4 this is just nothing
This is all we found with just 3 people digging, there is so much sheer tax paperwork to go through on Hillary it's exhausting. These companies might be nothing, but they use some extremely weird fucking word choices

Also I live in Boulder so I asked around with the hippies, finally met a dude who said MRSS was his vendor and he worked with them on a project a few years ago. I tried asking him what they do because their description is vague. All he would tell me was he wasn't very high up and that their bio is intentionally like that.

pastebin.com/mcAFeX9g

I'm employed you little leech. You live off of my tax dollars. Pot, meet kettle.

funny, but at least I have the balls (yes, actual balls) to point out you should question me, and not just take my word on blind faith. I have spelt this out clearly in I am not perfect. I invite questions, not just to me, but to all of Sup Forums. Including the ones that SJW are afraid to talk about because it might wake them up from their comfortable sleepwalk.

Install Sup Forums X and filter every subject/comment that follows the formula (drumpf btfo, how can white men compete) etc

It really makes this place much better and you won't get sucked into participating in shill threads

So you're not jidf, you're still a miserable newfag with no life though. enjoy your fedora tier call to action. Read my previous posts you nigger Sup Forumstard

The stuff we're seeing now is very low-quality. Worse than even the shitposts our board normally produces. It's easier for them to produce a lot of threads this way than to painstakingly produce and maintain troll threads that are engaging (and requires much lower intelligence from the people posting the threads), and also if they were to try harder and discuss any real topic in detail, they risk it becoming a normal Sup Forums discussion which is always part-troll to begin with.

If they keep doing the current tactics, all we need to do is stress awareness and to not engage bad threads and make sure to bump good threads.

Noted, will investigate.
What does it matter? Are you butthurt because I pointed out something? Cry some more for me bitch.

Can you name one place on the internet with this amount of free speech?

Once in awhile some really great conversations happen here that couldn't happen elsewhere.

Either way this place is my "hangout" so you can fuck right off anytime.

What the fuck are you children talking about?

Sup Forums is under seige with an abnormally high amount of slide/bait threads and posts from someone/group with alot of proxies.

>Can you name one place on the internet with this amount of free speech?
Exactly. This is what I meant in >Once in awhile some really great conversations happen here that couldn't happen elsewhere.
Also true...and all of them I screen scraped immediately, zipped up and tucked away. As I said earlier, the internet is NOT forever, do not buy into that lie.

You tell me.
Weird choice of image, and you imply I conform to some kind of view. I don't.

>By eliminating the shills, are we not ourselves taking the first steps to becoming Reddit-tier cancer?

Oh look, it's the concern-Jew right on schedule.

>Weird choice of image
Sup Forums is my crusty body pillow

>you imply I conform to some kind of view

I never tried to imply that, I don't really have a world view either. I just call out stupid shit when I see it. I guess that makes us fellow travellers.

I don't even know if I'm meme magicking ironically anymore though.

This.
Newfags out out out

/schizophrenia general /

I will not leave, given you have not offered something better than what I suggest. Which makes me suspicious of you even more.

Is that the safe space extension?

You imply there's some kind of constructive criticism involved, when really I just don't have the time to wade through mounds of shit looking for that nice deep link to (implied to be) forbidden knowledge.

Fact is, I'm more than happy to call you a canyon cunt all day if needed. Safe space need not apply, but if you want to go heads up, go for it.

Sup Forums died, then moved to 7chan, then 420chan with /i/, and now we're back here on the motherland on Sup Forums. Sup Forums will always have the most traffic so one way or another you'll get people posting

Sup Forums isn't anywhere near dead.

Although I remember the content being better before flags. Also the ability to samefag made everyone alert.

Flags defeated us.

Then the thread was not for nothing, and there is hope.

I must go, I'm sure this thread will quickly be shitted up in my absence.

Stay sharp. Think carefully. Question everything. Post information, and back it up with logic.

You mirin, goy?

Shitpost right on cue.

Maybe I lied just a little bit...so you would come out.