>poll implying that modern classical and jazz are shit >pussied out of including Brahms, Rachmaninoff, and Ravel as they were among the highest voted for being unworthy of discussion in the last thread Goddamn soyboys
Dylan Cox
Oh I was willing to include Rachmaninoff (whom I detest) and even Ravel and Stravinsky but Brahms was going to have a proviso like "(choose this and your mother will die a gruesome and untimely death)" or something. In a perfect world anyone who disliked Brahms should have their IP banned. But ultimately there weren't enough legitimately bad (or at least controversial) composers until I came back and the thread autosaged. Also it was boring because half the time it was just me adding names. Overall it was a failed experiment because apparently now /classical/ is so chock full of idiots someone will actually come to the defense of Whitacre. You guys suck and I hate you.
Luke Phillips
>Ravel Best song Bolero
Aaron Bennett
Actually the initial plan was to list every composer I could think of for the poll but it seemed like I would inevitably forget some names and that the list would be too long anyway, where I once had faith that tried and true names like Brahms or Stravinsky could be safely ommitted from a blacklist. And thus I opted for the protocol I did to make the process less arbitrary but you robbed it, you all screwed me again.
Adrian Turner
This, prog without a backing track isn't classical as Zappa proves in spades.
Connor Gomez
I should like to request that all those in this thread who underrate the works of Frederick Chopin would see to it to put an end to their own lives with due haste. Much obliged.
Jace Richardson
I would have to hope that there was just one guy spamming Ravel over and over. Even if you hate Ravel how can you not hate Debussy more?
Ian Torres
*awkwardly glissandos behind you*
heh nothin' personal kid
Jaxson Jones
haha fag cry more
Jason Sullivan
>shitpin
Logan Brown
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Kevin Rivera
Alright you fucking snobby "patricians"
if you hate these meme composers so much
name ONE good composer
Connor Morris
Bach
Brayden Wilson
john zorn, glenn branca, friedrich nietzsche
Parker Johnson
*arpeggiates secondary dominant seventh and borrowed chords*
Austin Jones
anyone besides Ravel and Mozart
how they frauded their way into repertoire is anyone's guess
Caleb Garcia
trips confirm
Jackson Ward
why didn't anybody tell me that late liszt is incredible
Christopher James
I dunno, its disappointing how its all piano works and maybe the odd chorale
Juan Reed
>Mozart
Pls Mozart was better than his contemporaries for several reasons. >His structure was really well proportioned, and he maintained that rigorously into his 20s. >His melodic structure was extremely efficient compared with his contemporaries, and this is part of the reason why his music is so difficult to play. Every note has a function, which means if you fuck up a single note, an entire phrase can go kaput. >Incorporated many elements of other music styles, like elements from Baroque writing (as an example, the importance placed on harmonic progressions that are balanced), but also from contemporaries (he definitely understood Haydn's later style and built upon it, especially in the areas of harmonic expansion). >He had the good fortune of being born in a generation when the fortepiano was being perfected. This ancestor of the modern instrument we know today was capable of producing enough sound to be heard in rooms larger than a house, with extremely subtle differentiation made to areas such as articulation and volume control. Thus, he could write more complex and varied piano pieces, which he also performed himself, and this increased his name and reputation.
why the fuck would late Liszt be played on a pianofarty?
Isaac Roberts
i like les preludes. is there anything similar?
Justin Cox
Parsifal
Nathaniel Myers
that's a copypasta you motherfucker
Ryan Lopez
isn't that wagner? i mean something short, I don't want to be committed for 5h
Jack Reyes
But it's still correct.
Jason Sullivan
Havergal Brian Gothic symphony
Sorabji Organ symphony No.2
Jace Sanchez
What?
David Brooks
>Sorabji >similar to anyone
Carson Baker
>actually too soy to enjoy Brahms I legitimately feel bad for you.
Lucas Moore
>inb4 i was juste meeming dude
Nolan Cox
>respecting a "composer" who never wrote a single work without a piano
Jack Watson
Because you can't read? I literally post "Liszt is underrated" every day.
Connor Butler
The three B's Bach Beethoven Brahms
Kevin Anderson
Can't you just let people add their own choices to the poll?
Kayden Russell
>Ravel I can understand the hate. His work is extremely uneven and I truly abhor some of his (((jazz)))-inspired works.
Ryder Edwards
actual pleb bastard here who knows only vivaldi and the music played in amadeus. Please recommend me some classical music fit for my disgusting pleb tastes and ears, thanks
Christian Long
>Post classical music anecdotes. I have lots. When Peter Maxwell Davies gave a lecture at my uni the year before he died he sperged out because not enough people showed up and was an asshole during the question period.
no, someone has to compile the poll. There's no shared poll creation option on strawpoll.
John Myers
he should have said Mozart instead of Brahms.
best Bernstein quote: I bet Wagner was a great fucker, as he wrote so fucking good music
Alexander Thompson
use a better poll site then
Isaac Clark
thank you friends
Michael Morales
pretty similar to a retarded Messiaen desu
Dylan Wilson
I bet Wagner was a great fucked, as he fucked up music
William Campbell
the first composer that gets banned i'm posting them
Gabriel Murphy
I heard Liszt was getting banned...
Colton Martinez
Why would that even be an option on any of them?
Henry Mitchell
Why does the fuck does skill at the keyboard have any bearing on compositional prowess?
Jayden Morris
Is there a Sup Forums compilation of recommendations of where to get started on classical? I have always liked it broadly but would like to start somewhere. The sticky doesn't seem to have one.
Ayden Richardson
start here
Easton Barnes
because basically you can't even work stuff out on a keyboard. Its no coincidence that almost every canonical composer was at least a passable pianist and most of them were in fact virtuosos.
Justin Peterson
Wagner, Berlioz, Schoenberg and Ravel couldn't play any instrument well
Jaxson Young
...
Easton Roberts
because the piano is built according to music theory, not the other way round as almost any other instrument
Matthew Collins
All names that were put forward for blacklisting, hmm
I am learning to read sheet music for the piano and I want something to play that's suitable for a beginner (note that I am fairly decent at piano techinque, it's the sheet reading that's the challenge here) but is still good music. Up until now I've been playing the accompanying pieces for recorded music girlfriend plays, Bach and Händel mostly, and some folk tunes. I would appreciate some recommendations.
Jaxson Rogers
I personally admire her because she is just pissing the fuck out of musical modernists. the normies love her and the elites go "REEEEE YOU CAN'T WRITE LIKE THAT ANYMORE YOU FUCKING VIVALDI LOVING FAGGOT!!!". the kind of people who write modern classical are just music majors who are obsessed with being musical rather than just loving music. they're so desperate to stand out just to make a living that they feel like they have to be constantly trying to "reinvent" the genre in order to cause a scene and get people paying attention to them. they do not really care about good music. they only care about seeming like they do.
>"oh yeah, but modern music can be good!"
the very fact that people have to argue that it CAN be good instead of it just being obviously good from the getgo show that it is just one big larp. it's like sorting through a dumpster and finding a busted up phone from 2005 and saying "this phone is comparatively better than the rest of the trash in this dumpster so i'm going to enjoy it".
So you don't admire her at all. You just believe modernists are being btfo by her and you are vicariously enjoying their imagined anger. Quick call me a triggered modernist to make yourself feel better.
Jason Martin
But the most beautiful work of all is a 20th century piece
it's harsh at first, but don't let that deter you. it took me three full listenings to realize the true genius of the piece. the dissonant clunking and chattering of the background noises echo the desperate wails of the voice championing against the oppressive capitalist system we live in. the intentionally cliched melodies and seemingly paradoxical opposition of genres between the voice and it's melody create an offputting and gritty texture that symbolizes the agony of being forced to live a life not surrounded by you. the harsh, muddled texture of seemingly (although not really) random instruments symbolize the hastily put-togetherness of life in the city. the holiday themed interludes are a haunting reminder of the temporary solace the holidays bring, allowing us to forget about the non stop, agonizing life we are too calloused to be bothered by any more. the end of each interlude serves as a reminder of the ultimate comerciality of these holidays as they trick us into forgetting just how hard our lives really are.
Brandon Gray
Hey your best bet is to familiarize yourself with every major period and style of classical music.
A super incomplete list of most well-known or most-discussed pieces (not necessarily the best) would be
Bach >Tocatta and Fugue in D >Goldberg variations >St. Matthew Passion
