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I have a half hour ambient piece i want to build some synths and stuff over but I'm not sure what software to use. I tried FL Studio but it's kind of had cause the piano roll thing in on a pattern but the ambient track is in the song part so i can't hear it while i make the midi parts. I looked at ableton but I didn't see a master volume control which I need cause my speakers are dumb and always on full blast. What should I do? I made the ambient track mostly in renoise and would do the rest of it in renoise but it would take forever having to trigger a half hour sample and build around it.
Brody Collins
Hey /prod/, what's your favorite music to /prod/?
Evan Gutierrez
ambient
Hunter Cox
Idm because I'm not a PLEBIAN
Noah Wilson
Just because you don’t know how to do something doesn’t mean the software can’t do it. What you want to do is possible on any DAW. did you seriously believe that you can’t work on the piano roll in FL while listening to the other tracks?
Carter Wright
>I looked at ableton but I didn't see a master volume control its easy to miss in arrangement view because its a small box
Luke Walker
I used to fucking love Audiomulch for making ambient music.
Eli Nguyen
You should be using the session view for that honestly, volume control in the arrangement view is there so you can click on it for automation
Adrian Davis
is that on the master track or on the overall system?
Austin Young
master track if youre looking for the other I don't know what you should do
Elijah Lewis
yeah i need the other. I'm not sure what ill do either besides try and write a guitar part that works over the half hour jam and play that, maybe bass too. Anyone got tips on that?
Eli Miller
i don't use session view much i use a midi controller to switch between tracks and control the volume faders
Christopher Martinez
I'll tip my hat to that, good sir!
Jeremiah Richardson
Need more idm posters in /prod/ desu
Gabriel Jenkins
prefer jungle desu less pretentious, more fun :)
Jace Adams
If you don’t use session view you’re kinda gimping yourself. Why don’t you use pro tools then? Do you use max too much?
Benjamin Russell
Anyone tried Live 10? How does the project folder look like? (pic related are 8 and 9). Do you have to make a new user library like with 9 (and the 8 is available as a separate directory in the browser), or 9's works seamlessly with 10?
What do you guys think of this so far? Not quite fully sequenced out yet, but i'm interested to know what you think. I'm a little torn on it at the moment. I'm Debating whether to abandon it or not.
Christian Young
Less INTERESTING
Idem is fun :(
Bro you don't have to make a new library just switch it in the directory if you want to use the old library and don't want to c/p for some reason
Lmao'ing at the idea of somebody not using session view in ableton lol
Jayden Watson
max is really the only reason I have live installed still
Josiah Lewis
oh my god, don't abandon it!! throw away your computer entirely because you suck big donkey dicks my god
Justin Kelly
>Bro you don't have to make a new library just switch it in the directory if you want to use the old library and don't want to c/p for some reason Weird. I don't remember how it was when I switched, but I remember having reason to believe that 8's wouldn't work in Live 9, and the browser allows me to link to it separately (pic related). Will 10 let me have 8's and 9's libraries along with the new one like it does in my current setup?
Jason Powell
Junglist reporting in
Xavier Walker
jungle is more sample-focused and is more club-friendly less intended for home listening FUN
Leo Jones
Mhmm I remember that option moving up to 9 (illegitimately)- you just delete the old library and it's gone
All that was missing was grooves iirc. Just copied them in.
I'd have to imagine there's a similar option in 10, though idk why you wouldn't want to just consolidate everything
I'm making more friendly idm shuturface:(
William Lee
any good sampling tutorials?
Brayden Young
>though idk why you wouldn't want to just consolidate everything The old library has a ton of shit from when I was a beginner, that I don't want to integrate into the new one, and it would take a long time to handpick everything, so I procrastinated. I don't have that problem with 9's library, so I wouldn't mind integrating it into 10's, but 8's is probably going to stay like that for a long time.
Brody King
I keep hearing about max for live but what exactly is it? I get it that it’s a visual programming language but what can you do with it that you can’t do with plugins?
Ryan Brown
With jungle I dont think they altered or messed with the original samples too much bc of the technology, but I'm sure if you look up a tutorial on Ableton's timestretching/quantizing capabilities that'd help I really just find my samples from listening to music (old funk/soul and reggae/dancehall compilations are great for that classic jungle sound) But really when I use these samples I just pitch em down/up and add slight FX/EQ to match the other instruments on the track I used to make ambient/noise/drone by just manipulating samples and that helped learn how Ableton worked but at this point want to make interesting tunes that could be pressed on vinyl No yeah IDM is really fun to make and there's so much you can do with it and the boundaries are basically limitless.. but now I really like my dance music to be danceable And I feel like Jungle nails the balance between club music and IDM perfectly
Christian Stewart
Delete everything you don't want as you go along man. Or make a "temporary" folder of effects racks or whatever it is you might want to keep
Lfo on any parameter anywhere. other people make instruments
Kayden Parker
You're probably the type to use factory default patches and loops. With Max for Live™, you can make the synthesizer and make it do or sound however you want. Stop relying on corporate made plugins and vsts
Blake Gomez
There's a program called Max/MSP, that's like a visual programming language for doing all sorts of crazy audio and video stuff at a very low level. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_(software) Basically lets you make your own music software very easily, and in a "standardized" way.
Max For Live is an add-on to Ableton that lets people use Max inside Ableton, by making special Max patches that work as if they were Ableton's native plugins.
This allows people to make their own plugins that are completely integrated into Live (unlike normal VSTs) to add previously unavailable features or to create completely new systems for audio or video.
On maxforlive.com there are thousands of patches that people made that you can download. On Ableton's website there are some too.
Thanks. Finally someone who explained it in concrete terms instead of being vague about it.
John Barnes
>explained it in concrete terms u mean "dumbed it down so you could understand"?
Austin Price
No problem m8
Concrete pragmatic examples my man
Anthony Jones
Kind of prod related: where do people buy and sell gear online these days? I've got some hardware synths I haven't used in several years that I want to sell off. I've gone through Reverb before and didn't much like it. Thanks
Aaron Martin
Local gear trading facebook groups?
Colton Gonzalez
I thought about that, but I don't want to sell locally. I've got enemies who would probably be interested in the gear I'm selling and contact me, not knowing it's me. Then we meet and someone gets fucked up
Lucas Baker
u hardcore
Nathaniel Lee
fake profile dickhead
Juan Morales
/prod/ always dead when i'm not busy producing :((((
Oliver Price
What is a fake profile gonna do if they don't know it's me to begin with? I gotta meet up to sell the shit to them
Asher Lewis
>clyp.it/4ysfn4si I really like it actually Be more creative next time
Noah Gutierrez
Where can I pirate vst's?
Jacob Myers
Sell in a different city where you don't have enemies, or ask a friend (that your enemies don't know) to sell them for you.
Lincoln Martin
fucking junkie
Noah Murphy
I think the discord is not for me. At least here where everybody sucks ass I can still give them shit for it. There you're supposed to encourage it.
Owen Perry
>being this dense
honestly if you're not ripping on people who are new/bad you're doing them a disservice
i always see the comment about every clyp being shit
as if it's worth posting anything that's actually good for reasons other than validation- nobody here can help you if you're already good
Brody Perry
nigga please I just want to plug in sylenth and fuck around not having to pay hundreds of dollars c'mon
kys desu i can't believe you can't just fucking google sylenth torrent what the fuck is wrong with you
Eli James
Pirate bay and proxy sites are blocked in my country and i'm too poor atm to pay for a decent vpn. I figured that somebody might know of an actual decent place to pirate shit since I know you are all degenerates as well.
Aiden Gray
ahh gotcha, shoulda specified
vst4free has a fuck load of synths js- sylenth is nice for those couple simple sounds but eh
Juan Roberts
I'm a brainlet. I just wanted to see if I could bash out some knock off flume shit
Christopher Martin
That's a good idea Lol why do you say that? I don't have drug enemies. I just have a large group of friends I ditched because i went to college and wanted to stop partying all the time. So, not really enemies, just people I don't wanna see
Jeremiah Barnes
>So, not really enemies, just people I don't wanna see
>Then we meet and someone gets fucked up
They took partying that seriously?
Wyatt Lewis
Fucked up, emotionally, I guess. Like, I know they are sad about not seeing me, so it might fuck them up
Julian Evans
That's a weird way to word it.
Brody Johnson
God damn this self importance holy shit
Dylan Lee
The blue volume controls the preview browser volume and is so handy. I learnt that 5 years into ableton. There's a lot I missed thinking I didn't need to know, you want to do shortcuts but its unwise.
Landon Edwards
be more autistic
Thomas Baker
... like previewing your library? Jfc I'm 4 years in thank you
I need to read through the whole fucking manual I'm still regularly amazed by something every few months
Carter Anderson
yes, for ages the library sounds were much louder than what I was working on and I'd always be changing my interface knob, duh
Good but the kick is slightly mud, I'd pull up the highs of it or add a shhh or something quietly over top
Jaxon Bennett
ty brother , highs lifted sounds cleaner...have a problem with low passing kicks for some reason
Owen Long
or not low passing but just pinching the eq on both ends
Samuel Sanders
Are rhythm , melody and bass the only things in music? How do I start thinking and learn about composition ?
Carter Smith
Dope
Brayden Perez
buy acoustic guitar and learn nirvana songs
Joshua Butler
I've already done that shit.
Easton Hill
why ask that question then
Chase Roberts
Ok, so I am new to a daw. whenever I get down to composing I think , let me add some drums, let me add a melody and let me add bass. What am I missing? What else could I do?
Jason Nguyen
...
Jonathan Gomez
What are your other band members playing?
Hunter Cox
Harmony is pretty important, so is timbre.
John Peterson
"Bass" isn't one of the core elements of music, its more of a side product of a pieces instrumentation or production. Its like saying "10 KHz is the only important thing in music".
Music is made of sounds:
"sound perception can be divided into six cognitive processes. They are: pitch, duration, loudness, timbre, sonic texture and spatial location"
According to Narmour, "The core elements [of music] are melody, harmony, rhythm, dynamics, tessitura, timbre, tempo, meter, texture, "and perhaps others"
Easton Nguyen
so how do you do it?
Christian Cruz
how does it sound? I'm trying to arrange some clips recorded in the last days
I literally cannot hear the difference between compressed and uncompressed vocals, I think I should just quit it
Nathaniel Diaz
this isn't techno, you troglodyte. but it's well executed. i think the kick could use a little more punch.presence in the mix. stop giving a shit about DAWs it depends on the recording quality, the performance, and the degree of compression, but vox are definitely where compression draws out a lot of weird stuff. keep working on it, and experiment with various compressor settings on acapellas. pay attention to sibilance
Angel Gutierrez
Oh yeah sibilance is the only one thing that I can actually tell the difference
Lincoln Martin
t. ableton soyboy
Aiden Murphy
anything mac-compatible
Michael Williams
what's the difference between a reverb with an eq and a reverb without one that is fed into an eq?
Owen Sanders
heh, I've seen some guys recording nasty death metal on ableton
Chase Wright
Death metal is for commies
Luis Rivera
the Avalanches vibes. Can't tell how much of this, if any, you wrote, but the samples are nicely chosen. Just need to clean up the mix
Dominic Clark
Can I pleeease see a pic of your timeline? It sounds like it's jam packed with clips
Angel Cooper
Analog (possibly modular) synths with no DAW because recording your performance takes away from it.
Ethan Garcia
you should spend more than 30 minutes learning how to use a DAW you plen. or perhaps google (crazy i know right?) 'ableton master volume' try harder. quantify some of those drum loops cause they sound a bit too far off and quite choppy. try playing with some reverb and more audio fx in general paired with automation (synth parameters, reverb sends, audio fx wetness of chorus fx or whatever) to keep things interesting. consider writing more parts to the harmony. it sounds more like a chorus to a song so try to write something that could come before/after it. those high hats need to be better. your percussion needs more variation. you need to play with panning/the stereo field more (making your high hats wider would be a good start). obviously it needs an intro/outro if you would like it to be a song. it's not horrible tho keep working most /prod/ answer possible don't listen to that other unhelpful asshole. you can buy pirated vsts off of me if you like >clyp.it/id1z02xf scrap the bass/sub bass and try again. i personally don't like the kick sidechain being on while the kick isn't on and that's what it sounds like. the closed hat doesn't sound good. the change @ 1 minute doesn't sound very graceful. try reading an intro to music theory book. there's plenty of short options and they're easy to find. a reverb with one built in will probably only put out a wet reverb signal of the frequencies that you chose. a reverb fed into an eq will eq the entire signal. this might be an important distinction because alot of reverb used is only partially 'wet', and so in that latter case if you were to eq after the entire reverb signal then you would likely be eqing the sound that intially went into the reverb (assuming you're not exclusively using reverb as a 100% wet send) which might sound bad. there might be more to it tho, good question
