Why should someone on a no fly list be able to purchase this?

Why should someone on a no fly list be able to purchase this?

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why are they on a no fly list?

There is no legal definition or due process for getting on or off the "no fly" list. It shouldn't be used to deprive people of their rights.

Because they haven't been put through due process to prove that they're a criminal who has committed a criminal act worthy enough for them to lose their rights and what they can buy,.

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Increases the odds of dead americans, therefore it should be allowed

beccause a no fly list is not an indicator of an individuals crimes or disposition. its jsut a list of people who cant fly

INFRINGED

Because the no fly list is bullshit?

Break up with stewardess or pilot or tsa dude
They don't respect your reasons
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No fly list

My friend is on the no fly list since he was 6. His name is Patrick. Why should he get punished some member of the ira had the same name as him?

On the upside, this could destroy the illegal no-fly list forever. Also, people with psychiatric issues who haven't been convicted of a crime should not have any of their rights removed. Would they do this to people who have a physical disability? Is that going to be a crime too?

i dont see why it matters since it would be impossible to get on an airplane.
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Because it is very good for the economy?

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Nobody else posted a better reason.

Because the government puts whoever they want on the list and there's no way to get off it. There's no policies for getting on or off it.

NRA wants anyone including Radical Islam terrorists in the US to have the right to buy any gun they want. Unless they say otherwise which they haven't. I wonder why? I wonder how much Pepto-Bismal is being delivered to their headquarters?

The airlines piss off fat people all the time.

>supporting 21st century McCarthyism

A person needs to be presented the evidence against them, and face their accuser in front of a jury of their peers. It's a little thing we have called due process.

A good way to check if you're on the FBI's list is to buy a gun

good change

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THE MUSLIM SHOT THE FAGS BUT IT'S THE WHITE MAN'S FAULT
SO BAN THE GUNS
HATE YOURSELVES
FILL THE EARTH WITH SALT

It should matter if crazies get guns. Because normal people outgun them. Gun free zones are the problem.

Why are non citizens allowed to buy guns?

What is the 4th Amendment?

You're thinking of the 6th
The 4th refers to military squatting in your house

It is the responsibility of the civil to tame the savage.

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a video about gun control

Amendment: to change.

To "amend".

The ability to change the 2nd amendment SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED,

It's the 14th you faggots

Thank you. I got lazy.

>There were 10,000 names on the list in 2011, 21,000 in 2012, and 47,000 in 2013.
>banning 47000 people out of 300 million from having guns
BRAVO TRUMP

If they broke the law, arrest them. If they're terrorists, arrest them. Let them have their day in court. Until they're found guilty of a crime, they still have rights. I don't get why this is so hard to comprehend.

You are right, racially stereotyped Arabs should not be allowed guns regardless of just cause. I love you racist.

"Due process is killing us"
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Due process

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my girlfriend was on a no fly list for literally making edgy posts on Sup Forums, you can get put on one for whatever bullshit reason

I heard of a local drug dealer who was on the no fly list and was removed through legal action. Fucking government doesnt even know he is a dealer, he was put on for political activism and the fucktards didnt even know what he does.

I've tried saying this a million times to those that support this terrible idea but they don't care

Then tell them they are irrational and it's a good thing their opinions matter little in the grand scheme of things.

Hiku koku foutee fii hea

of course you fucking britbong, in that surveillance shithole of yours you don't get to have free speech

THAT SHIT WILL NEVER GET PAST SUPREME COURT SO THIS IS ALL POINTLESS. TAKE AWAY AMERICAN RIGHTS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS. TRY IT.

Where is the list? Who is on the list? How do we find out?

Because they'd never be able to get that on a plane.

They use like arguments like 'what about my right not to be murdered by crazy people'
They're fucking all terrible people

no fly list does not have due process.

Once the no fly list is audited for error, made more transparent, and allows appeas and due process then sure but not before the no fly list system is fixed.

>what about my right not to be murdered by crazy people'

Non existent, your rights end where they begin infringing on my rights.

My inanimate objects are not infringing on your rights, they are infringing on your feelings.

A tiny subsection of the population misusing products similar to my property is not an excuse to attempt to remove me of my right to said property.


These people do not want to save lives, if that was the issue they would be off campaigning against heart disease and raising cancer money and trying to ban fast cars and alcohol.

These people are hoplophobes exploiting tragedies few and far between for political gain.

Because they fucked the flight attendant

>our rights are killing us!
kys

why should someone on a college enrollment list be able to use this?

>having to prove your innocence
>due process

To kill you, faggot.

Because they still have their due process rights. If you think we should ban people on any no fly/terror watch list from owning this, remember that there is no way to learn if you are on the No Fly list until you go to an airport. For the Terror Watch List, people would be added through Foreign Intelligence Service (FISA) Courts, which you would have no access to their ruling and would not be able to know if you are put on it.

Sic Semper Tyrannis.

If you infringe even a tiny bit on the 2nd amendment you will trigger a violent civil war between patriots and Marxist leftist tyrants in Washington DC

Krauts need their own 2A. Didn't you guys recently lose the ability to have Semi Autos with the "Hunting" licence or whatever?

>Because they haven't been put through due process to prove that they're a criminal who has committed a criminal act worthy enough for them to lose their rights
Rights can not be given, or lost, they can just be denied. If I was a serial killer that ran people over with a car, no one would deny me the "privilege" of owning, or buying another car if I made parole. As far as telling someone who committed a crime that they can't own a gun again, well it's bullshit. There are too many code violations that fall into the "felony" charges class and it's not society's place to determine what free man (currently non-incarcerated) has rights and what man does not. That is socialist bullshit and our government is supposed to be a republic, not a socialist state, nor even the light version called a democracy. In other words, the government has overstepped it's own authority and needs to be over thrown. I only fear the time window for revolution is ending in failure because Americans are chickenshit cowards.

I don't think you know what that means.

But McCarthy was right.

He was spot on
see

Because, like with all other powers the people in the government will abuse that and use it for their political goals. There needs to be laws enacted. To protect rights and safeguard the citizenry from abuse of power by government. They really need to stop shitting on the people they serve, and realize that they exist to protect the citizenry.

Why the fuck would you buy an ar in the first place?

Also are much better

>There needs to be laws enacted. To protect rights and safeguard the citizenry from abuse of power by government.

It's called the constitution, the politicians just appoint shitty justices to degrade it's power over the decades.

>well we unelected judges think it means this now so you lose x y and z rights.

No fly list is designed to keep people off planes, not say who should be able to own a gun

If it did that, it would be called the no gun list

But it's not

>being allowed to take America hostage as long as you call them communist was right

Yes ARs are much better than anything else on the market

What does that have to do with McCarthy?

Hey Turkey how does it feel having our missiles installed right up your asshole

You're worthless to us, we like Armenians, Kurds and Greeks a lot better than you shitheads

I hope they all launch a war on you

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Protect? No, they are supposed to serve, not protect. Your 2nd Amendment tells you who is responsible for your protection. Your government is the scum of the earth. In it's most benevolent form it's a parasitic entity only capable of being regarded as a necessary evil.

This

If you're not a sand nigger, you have nothing to worry about

>call someone out on not knowing what McCarthyism is

>don't know what McCarthyism is

if you disassemble it and make it look like part of your shaving kit, and put the parts on the outer edge of your suitcase, that would probably be your best bet

Somebody who did this back in the 80's once told me this, but back then things were not turbo fucked like they are today, of couse

See IRS targeting scandal

Apply to DHS

Aim at opponents of whomever is currently in the white house.

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Fuck yes I love this man

Hey why doesn't Trump pick him to be VP?

Because he is incompetent.

go watch the Benghazi hearings

And if they had to give you your day in court where they have to prove you should be on the list before you go on it. Wouldn't that be due process?

There is no trial to put someone on the nofly list

The communists in government were trying to destroy the United States from within the system and McCarthy tried to stop it by targeting known spies, so yes he was right.

EYYYYYY PU70

Has anyone ever even bought plane tickets?
All you do is give them a name.
You could be anybody walking on a plane.
>you need an ID
They give illegals IDs now. They can be anybody.
Worst dude on the planet.
Refugee status.
Needs an ID.
>who are you
Frank Bernadin
>new ID for Frank Bernadin
Boom goes the dynamite.
This shit is so stupid.
Fuck no fly lists.
Rifles for everybody.
Open carry Airbus.
Leave the children at home.
Little shits ain't gonna remember half the shit you show them anyway.

niggers tongue my anus
>trump will win

NIGGERS TONGUE MY ANUS

TRUMP WILL WIN

I don't think they are, but, let's say you're in Texas, which my home state.

In a private sale, if you have a good reason to believe that the buyer is not a resident of the state of Texas, then you must refuse the sale.

However, you do not have to ask -- you just have to have no reason to believe other wise.

That said I would never sell a gun to a Muslim in a private sale. There have been a lot of Muslims crossing in from Mexico recently.

DUBS CHECK EM :^)

the no fly list is a political tool that the bureaucrats will use and abuse to control you, you goddamn milkylicker
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This FDR letting many Stalin agents who McCarthy exposed.

These lists of people aren't a public accusation. You don't even know if you're on these lists until you try to fly. These aren't people in positions of power, who we're trying to undermine their political clout.

McCarthyism is the wrong "buzz word" to use. Just question the constitutionality.

This, FDR let in many Stalin agents who McCarthy exposed after ww2.

Because the "no fly list" is an arbitrary list of people determined by the federal government. There is no due process. 1000s of people have been added to it accidentally and once you're on, even if you've done nothing wrong, it's a bitch to get off.

It's a loophole for the federal government to curtail the second amendment.

Jesus you guys are cucked bad

What are you gonna do?

That was what we thought about indefinite extrajudicial detention