>You can get arrested and fined in New Zealand if you plant your own vegetables in your own property.
How much stupid can a country get and why aren't people in that shit country rebelling?
How fucked up is a country when you can't even grow food in your own property without landing in jail?
What the fuck
What is the justification for this law?
It helps stop unwanted pest species of plant
>invasive species
fak off
Its to stop people digging into water or gas pipes, or data cables and underground electricity lines, so you need to get council approval before you dig your own veggie garden
Sounds like bullshit to me.
My nan and my parents are addicted to gardening. They talk about it all the damn time. If the government was doing anything to stop gardening, I would have heard about it.
You don't have these things at a minimum depth and under concrete?
Being so distant to the normal world your entire flora and fauna is useless garbage
the colonists should have glassed the place first desu
This sounds like common sense. Thanks for the explanation user. I'll talk to dad about it over breakfast tomorrow, he'll be impressed I've finally asked him something about gardens.
It only happens when the councils come around and look for veggie patches. They pretty much just make an example of someone on the street
The Maori did.
Wiped out all the actually cool bird species.
He was growing them to sell (it's written on the graphic).
>He was growing them to sell
And this is bad because...?
So you can't grow a small crop on your own land to sell to your neighbors for cash in hand?
And I thought Britain was a statist shit hole.
Fucks up the economy
Agricultural based economy. Our department of Agriculture aggressively removes any competition to our farmers. No matter how small.
So what?
>Tfw i'm growing potatoes, carrots, scarlet runners, peas and courgetttes plus a greenhouse full of cucumbers and tomatoes
For once it feels good to be British
>our farmers
>our
>our
>our
>top-down system
>our
...growing produce to sell is morally wrong?
Fuck.
This is bait. We fell for it.
what?
not even germany is that fucked up
It helps stop people from dissenting against the state. You need to be reliant on their food.
This is fucking retarded
It feels like you're being strip of the last remnants of the primal freedom
What next
Breathing tax?
I fucking hate state enforced monopolies.
I bet every time your economy takes a dip you still get commies and socialists saying "see! Capitalism sucks! The free market clearly doesn't work!"
Yep, they even kicked in my mates door in a uni dorm because he had a small herb garden in his window. Absolute fascists, mate.
I'd like to see them enforce this sort of shit in Te Urewera country.
Farmers dislike that it could lead to competition and lower prices, so they strong arm the government to crack down on commercial gardens.
>a producer is afraid of competition
Sounds like money is passing hands. Is that not healthy economy. Or only when big companies make money its good for the economy.
...
so what?
but man
since he grows and sells his food
then he is basically a NZ farmer himself
Do you also sue people who bake their own bread? Because they're competing your bakeries?
If the economy is so fragile that off the records exchange of such a small production, it is the government's fault, not the people's. If the economy is so shit, that man probably needed to sell them.
You need permits and shit to be a farmer mate
How?
At most you can say selling produce should be regulated so no one dies from it
How can a gardener with 5 square meters territory compete with a farmer with 5 hectares? His prices must be 3 times higher just to compensate the expenses. Only cattle breeding can be profitable in little scale.
>This nigger hasn't heard of the fart tax
theguardian.com
Fucks it up how? Your $5 you made selling a few pounds of carrots going to take down the entire economy?
>Post by medpack on the other side of the world
>No evidence beyond the image
You faggots are so gullible. Shitloads of NZers grow vegetables in their gardens.
Gr8 b8 m8
No you don't.
State enforced monopoly. It has two advantages.
Like no matter the global economy prices stay pretty consistent. Same for imports.
Now that's fucked, I own a pretty big garden and never had that happen.
Remember what they had to do last time when they went after Tuhoe
I'm not sure how anyone is really surprised at this point. Governments the world over are pulling stuff like this; trying to slowly but swiftly encroach on any methods that a man has to be independent of the state and society. They don't want you able to do things of your own ability, they want you to be good goyim for the state.
>can be arrested for cyber bullying
>now you can't even grow your own fucking crops without thousands of dollars in permits
Why even live in New Zealand?
You need to report them. Tell the government that they're planning a coup.
State enforced monopoly.
It sucks most times. Allows us to compete internationally but fucks our citizens in the ass.
>New Zealand
Holy fuck and I thought it was bad in Europe
I'm guessing its like the equivalent of "loosie" cigarettes.
NZ literally is all farms, so he probably skirted a bunch of regulations to avoid paying fees that legit farmers pay.
How deep you gonna dig that veggie patch?
KIWI UNABOMBER WHEN?
what a cucknation
The problem is it's not just one guy with a few cabbages
>Literally need a license to dig a hole
Wew. I thought our zoning laws and such were bad..
>This sounds like common sense.
It doesn't though. It sounds insane.
>Economy under threat from vegetable patches
Wew. My brother is currently working in NZ, and he told me your country was a backwards place, but JESUS..
So fucking what. How small are your commercial farms that private gardens can tamper with it?
Dear lord.
NZ is European fiy
Why would that be a problem retard
Are allotments also illegal in NZ?
Do they have armed security and random searches on exit to make sure you aren't smuggling contraband produce?
Only if you're selling them.
They can't, but it might slightly reduce the overall price, something that farmers hate because we're a secondary market after overseas.
Two market gardens within easy walk of my place. Also one of them has produce that is free for the public to pick food from.
Dont fall for the bait guys, as if someone's row of carrots is going to have any impact on any multi million dollar commercial operation.
yeah we have a massive garden, wtf is this shit anyway. wouldn't shit like plant barn have to check shit before selling or anything. im calling bullshit
Gotta hand it to the Scribblefaces, they're a stubborn and recalcitrant bunch. I spent a week in Te Teko once, it really is a different country. Very few laws are enforced by the lone cop.
I'm not making fun of you, because it's very sad to see it happening elsewhere outside the US.
Why doesn't the same apply to niggers?
Dunno about allotments, but you do get searched on departure.
Have a mate in NZ just 1/2 an hour outside wellington that grows veggies from home, he usually stores the potatoes under his house though and I'm pretty sure he doesn't sell them.
The Economy isn't but Federated Farmers won't get as large a payoff.
Our economy is shit due to our isolation, it's why our internet is so backwards.
>Wind from New Zealand's 30m sheep, 10m cattle and 2m deer accounts for 60% of greenhouse gas emissions, well ahead of industries such as transport and electricity generation. The New Zealand government has demanded the levy to speed research into ways of cutting livestock emissions before the start of the compliance period for the Kyoto protocol in 2008.
>Its to stop people digging into water or gas pipes, or data cables and underground electricity lines, so you need to get council approval before you dig your own veggie garden
so raised beds (especially on the newly laid concrete) would be OK then
It's just a way to get more tax revenue because our Prime Minister got retarded with State owned companies.
They are against capitalism and a free market.
Do animals seriously cause that much damage to the atmosphere? Isn't nature supposed to "sort things out" somehow? I mean I can see us destroying the planet but animal farts, really? Did nature not take into account the farting of animals?
Nope, we do have asinine laws about gardens. Pretty much no selling the produce.
Yes. Powerful unions for you.
>statists like this
Why not end supermarket monopolies then Zinzan
Wow how rebellious
I want reddit to leave.
>not growing sugar canes in a greenhouse aquaponics
>not growing and malting barley in your garden
>not fermenting your own anchovies
>not making your own molasses
>not making your own malt loaf
>not producing your own beer, rum, and malt vinegar
How are you going to make beans on toast if you don't have molasses and Worcestershire?
Ain't much choice where to go. Only consolation is that they're all stuck on the same dull, irrelevant rock as me.
Also, get the inbred farmers to export their crap. Then you can freely grow your own veggies.
holy fuck shit this is some great news
>be kiwi
>sell my mates a bunch of lettuce i grew
>crash the economy, with no survivors
Can't legally grow "too much" food in the US either due to the Commerce Clause. The Supreme Court ruled that by growing your own vegetables for consumption, or even to feed to your animals, you're NOT buying vegetables grown via help from other states, and are therefore harming interstate commerce.
en.wikipedia.org
Very fucked up decision.
We can grow them, so long as we don't sell.
Unionised farmers, our population is so small almost all industries are a monopoly of some sort.
dem assault tomatoes.
assault rifles.
Niggers are great tho. Also chemical foods and drinks like coca cola are great too.
Actually that's the problem, the domestic market is the secondary priority of our farmers. So we get all the extra stuff while Britain and China get prioritized over us. So any rise in meaningful competition here will strongly affect their prices due to artificial to scarcity.
It's cheaper to buy our milk in the UK than it is to buy it here.
>30m sheep
NEARLY 7 SHEEP FOR EVERY PERSON, GIVE US SOME NEW ZEALAND COME ON I HAVEN'T HAD A ROOT IN AGES!
Yes something like that happens here in various markets but probably not as severely.
That is a truly immoral situation, user
...You have more sheep than us at 74,000,000.
YEAH BUT IT'S HARD TO JUMP A FARM'S FENCE WITHOUT GETTING CAUGHT HERE
It is, only benefit is we're pretty safe from global changes in prices (other countries stop buying we get more). Otherwise it's just shitty.
JUMP HIGHER YA FAT FUCKING CUNT!
I guess that's what happens if the National Party (ie country sheep shagging party) rules your country
Been going on for decades.
Only thing John's managed is fucking up our prices for gas and electricity by being a retard.
...
At least the National party sounds like it's right of centre.
You didn't even vote for your bloody PM, you plonker.
In my underground bunker.
>Not having your own garden and skylight in your happening bunker
At least we can grow vegetables here cuz
Global economical collapse, a world war that will kill billions, I'll take anything at this point.
This shitty planet is absolutely insufferable.
Draconian gardening laws aside, has anyone here had any trouble with the bobbies in regards to illegally eating unblown pies recently?
youtube.com
>mfw caught on camera last weekend ripping and dipping
>$100 fine and 20 hours community service
This shit is getting ridiculous.