Mariahcarey Shit happens Have a happy and healthy new year everybody!

>mariahcarey Shit happens Have a happy and healthy new year everybody!

hahahaha oh god

playback doesn't just "happen", you retarded fucking cunt

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As far as I can tell, her ear-monitor didn't work so she wasn't hearing anything.

you're an idiot

2016 literally saved the best celebrity death for last. Thank you 2016 we miss you already.

why is this untalented slob still even a thing in america?

are you fatties that fucking daft or what

this is what Americans consider high-quality entertainment

Is this one one of those dog fart gangbang videos?

This. She used to be fuckable but she needs to fuck off already.

Also kys (kiss your sister) OP

>blacksonblondes
>not even blonde

>the one quadroon in the background

lmao get out white boi u can't even compete

JUST

>dogfart
Who came up with this name?

>modern "music artists"

I'd have said she was a 1980s "music artist" trying (and failing) to be a modern one.

for real though, if you're at a live venue and you dont have playback you're fucked, its fucking impossible to sing if you can't hear yourself
someone got fired after this

I can't believe there's actually retards defending this cunt, you fucking poofs

Is that Valentina nappi
Fuck time to delete all her videos

>tfw italian and in class with her years ago

My my my

Lipsyncing to playback is literally a 3rd world shithole tier "performance"

how insecure can you be

Did the Bealtes or the Stones ever need "ear monitors"? Did Sinatra need his "playback". Fuck off with that shit tier reddit excuse.

Literally every 50/60s tv performance was made through lipsync so

I'm guessing she failed all of her classes.

Guys she couldn't hear anything ok? Giver her a break, she's flawless. Mariah Carey did nothing wrong. Her dancers should be shoahed tho

Mariah Carey and her ilk lipsync at every concert, not just "tv performances". The only reason they did that in the 60's is because they didn't have the technology to capture live music very well.

Yeah, they did actually. I know you don't understand the subject but you really can't hear anything on stage when you have thousands of people shouting in front of you.

kill yourself, white knight fagget

The Beatles played Shea stadium without being able to hear themselves or their guitars.

I actually think its required for events like NYE and the Superbowl because its impossible to perform without it

Live mixing is a bitch. Fuck man, mixing in general is difficult enough as it is

>people are so contrarian they're defending this

you can't hear jack shit on stage without monitors

I think the current Superbowl policy is pre-recorded instruments, live vocals. Although the vocal part might be solely dependent on the artists

>Yeah, they did actually.
No, they didn't because they didn't exist. Do they look like the have "ear monitors" in, you fucking goof?

their amps are behind them. you can hear that on stage.

>yeah, they actually did

See the speakers on the floor pointing up? Those are monitors. They are different from the speakers that send the audio out to the crowd. Monitors send audio to the stage only, and can be customized (i.e. the singer can request to only get the guitar and drums on his monitor; the drummer only needs to hear the bass and keyboard, etc). Those big monitors have been replaced for ear pieces in modern times, but a lot of rock bands still use those big ones. Neither has anything to do with lack of talent. They are a MUST for live performances because it's actually very easy not to hear someone else or even yourself up in stage.

amps are for the audience. Go back to Sup Forums with your reddit knowledge.

There's floor monitors in front of them user

lol no they aren't. they mic the amp.... do you think that little amp can fill a stadium by itself?

She isn't lipsyncing you dumb cunt. She is singing to a backing track to make the songs sound richer and fuller.

Do you think singers manage to harmonise with themselves with one vocal performance on a record?
They use a shit ton of overdubs, and it's no different live, unless it's an acoustic performance.

paul mccartney famously said that he had to look at someone else in the band every now and again just to be able to tell where there were at in the song because the audience was so loud

user, what do you think is a PA system?

Is there any pre-recorded music coming out of those amps? What the fuck are you dipshits even talking about? You're confusing lip-syncing with using amps. I don't why you're this confused, but I suggest going back to Sup Forums

And is their pre-recorded song being played out of it? It's not even remotely comparable to modern performances.

what? no, the amps are instrument amps. the only thing coming out of them is the instrument plugged into it. they get mic'd and get sent through the sound system, and monitors. the monitors are usually on the floor pointed at the people playing and all the signals from the vocal mics, instrument mics, and drum mics get mixed into them so they can hear everything.

Stfu you beta white knight faggot. She's shithouse just like 90% of 'artists' these days

Every female pop singer in the world sings like a backing track. If the backing track doesn't come on for your performance why would you attempt to hit high notes you haven't sang in over a decade? Sulking and blaming the set engineer is the most rational decision. If lipsinking was sacrilege I wouldn't be taking her side but she's doing what every other artist like her does.

You're not even following the discussion. Go back to the top and try again.

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>She's shithouse just like 90% of 'artists' these days

You sound like a youtube comment

how about you go read what i was talking about with the other user....

>Did the Bealtes or the Stones ever need "ear monitors"?
That was the question, yes they used monitors. Not in-ears, cause they weren't available at the time and were only invented after everyone realised that wedges fucked up your hearing.

Listen kid, you've been repeatedly proven wrong.

Now fuck off.

>She isn't lipsyncing you dumb cunt. She is singing to a backing track to make the songs sound richer and fuller.

yeah, okay.
HAHAHAHAHA KILL YOURSELF WHITE KNIGHT

Not necessarily.

But in the context of this Mariah performance, let's put it this way: if the Stones start playing Sympathy for the Devil and Mick's monitor malfunctions and he can't hear anything from it, he could legit miss his mark and not know when his vocal part begins (considering they improvise on it and can stretch it a long, so it's not an entirely fixed number they just repeat every night).

Being on stage doesn't sound the same as if you were down in the audience.

You sound like it's your time to prep the bull now

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he's right though, i bet you don't know what overdubbing is. This doesn't excuse her for walking around like a brat and not even attempting the song though.

if micks monitors took a shit hed just run and around and dance and no one would know anything went wrong

those aren't dubs

you know it's a low to minus budget shitshow, when it's not even blonde

The Beatles actually stopped performing live because they couldn't hear themselves.

>On stage The Beatles were reliant on the sound from their own puny amplifiers - it was as if they were all wearing earplugs. Crucially they could not hear each other - Ringo Starr struggled to keep the beat by watching the gyrating rear ends of his fellow band mates.

What's funny is that lipsynch (besides being an easy fix for lazy faggots) is supposed to prevent mistakes like this, especially in television where everything is timed and carefully controlled. If Mariah had decided to lipsynch all her performance it would've been business as usual. But her ear monitor fucked up and left her defenseless. A good musician would make it through somehow, but Mariah is not a musician per se; she just has a good voice.

cat in the ha... hat on the ca... fuck it i'll be a porn slut

maybe they just had a shit sound guy

the stones and the doors were playing huge shows too and i dont recall them having problems like that

>its fucking impossible to sing if you can't hear yourself

tell that to Beatles and 70s rock bands

This is basically why they always lip sync for televised performances. There's no time to stop and go, "well this fucked up, while they fix it I'll banter with the audience for a bit" like every live musician does. Since you've got a set time to be in and out, you can't fuck around.

To be fair, having heard the current Stones play live, I don't think they can hear themselves. Keith and Ronnie aren't playing together.

>To be fair, having heard the current Stones play live, I don't think they can hear themselves. Keith and Ronnie aren't playing together.

they're all probably 90% deaf at this point anyway

>what are floor wedges
m8

You can see at the start that she is lip synching (poorly) to that little anthem, then when she gets into her first song she can tell the vocal track track isn't on so she is completely lost in her own song despite how its the same structure each time. She apparently doesn't know her song well enough to just keep going, nor does she seem willing to just sing with her actual voice.

She doesn't even try to perform knowing she doesn't have the full backing track and vocal track on deck, which is the biggest sign that a person lacks a musicians instincts, in regards to live performance.

>poofs
more like PPPPRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTs

thats a weird setup for the guitar amps

>Literally every 50/60s tv performance was made through lipsync so

b-b-b-b-but it's the [CŪCKRENT YEAR]

jesus christ

Dogfart was the username of some guy on a interracial porno forum who started his own company when he was pissed off with what was available.

Living the fucking dream.

Go to bed grandpa

Wow, there's a lot of confusion in this thread.

There's lipsynching.
There's singing along to a backing track.
There's having in-ear monitors.
There's having stage monitors.

These are different things. Your precious Beatles used monitors, like almost all rock bands. No, this is not basically the same as lipsynching or singing to a backing track. Singing in key and playing in time is extremely difficult if you can't hear anything. Anyone who doubts how hard it can be has obviously never ever tried it.

>Your precious Beatles used monitors, like almost all rock bands

no youre wrong they just used magic to play in time

He was an ultra cuck then.

JUST SING FUCKING SOMETHING YOU DAMM FOOL

JESUS CHRIST

I'm glad she's another victim of the Trump Curse.

You can see them on the right

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>The Beatles’ need to hear themselves on stage inspired rock groups to adopt what was then a new idea — stage monitors, small speakers facing the performers to let them hear what they were playing.

Like a lot of things, Beatles innovated monitors and made them the standard for rock bands. At the very start, they didn't always use them, but that also meant that they kept volumes relatively low and played small stages.

Pic related.

>i bet you don't know what overdubbing is
I don't even care. What I know for sure, that I fucked you're mother last christmas and she gave me dogfart

All I can think of is Vedder just get a straight feed from them when he's playing his guitar and doesn't bother with in-ears or mixing them into the wedges. But that doesn't really make sense

those amps don't even look mic'd up, so they probably could hear everything fine

No it's not. The amps you see on stage aren't driving the sound to the audience.

The amps are mic'd up then then the mic takes that audio to the PA's in the venue stadium.

Those 5 Marshall stacks that are oh so common on rock stages are just props and hollow.

Also the fans were so loud at the gigs and the PA technology was so far behind that nobody could hear them anyway and they'd just fuck around and sing and play nonsense, Harrison talks about it on Dick Cavett iirc

Hola reddito

Wow, thanks for correcting the record.

Fucking faggot

A rich cuck

If you watch when she gets into her first song, she goes into the entrance of the first verse on time but then immediately stops when she can tell her vocal track isn't going. She does it again a moment later into the sub-chorus. She can hear the song and the beat, but she refuses to actually sing without the vocal track on, presumable either because she isn't confident to let her own voice be heard without the studio track to cover up her pitch, or she is lipsynching.

>No it's not. The amps you see on stage aren't driving the sound to the audience.
>The amps are mic'd up then then the mic takes that audio to the PA's in the venue stadium.
>Those 5 Marshall stacks that are oh so common on rock stages are just props and hollow.

those 3 blues deluxes are probably real amps and aren't hollowed out. not all bands do that stupid hollowed out prop crap

You're welcome, user. Anytime!

Hugs!

>already post election
>pol still using the ctr boogeyman

you delusional fags are embarassing at this point

Sorry, after reading this thread I just assumed you were ignorant to live music like most people here and took your post to mean "hurr durr the amps aren't facing the audience how can they hear it"

Yeah they're for sure not hollow. Did you mean the angle was weird? The singer will probably have everything but the guitar coming through his wedges and just use the raw amp for monitoring the guitar.

Ament might, I don't see why else he'd have 3 cabs. Unless he's that paranoid about his backup failing on him too

>Ringo Starr struggled to keep the beat
that was his problem. drummer sets the beat, band plays along to it

Vox for cleans, Marshall for crunch, Blues deluxe with effects on the clean and the other Blues deluxe with effects on the dirty.

God I wish I had that setup.

yea i was talking about the angle. i guess this pic makes more sense , they look tilted way back in the other one