1. Your country

1. Your country
2. Should Germany pay reparations to Poland?

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They didn't already?

Greece
Yes

Germany did but Poland wants more

This is why you don't apologize for war crimes, or recognize them. How much have the Japanese paid the Chinese and Koreans? What about Turkish payments to the Armenians and Greeks?
Germans apologized, and they still pay reparations to this day. The US apologized, and they're still being milked and accused by minorities.

In the Potsdam agreement, the Soviet Union declared that any Polish reparation claims will be satisfied by the Soviet Union itself from the reparations they receive from Germany. Trickle down, if you will. I suppose they solved that by giving Poland the Eastern territories of Germany. In 1954 the Polish government reinforced that they had no reparation claims. Then in 1990 Germany officially renounced the Eastern territories and paid the Polish state a sum of 500 million mark and individual Poles a sum of 2 billion mark in total. In return Poland didn't object to the reunficiation of Germany.

It's basidally just a domestic issue in Poland, they never actually go out and send a letter with claims to Germany, they just want to rile up the bydlo and make the political opponents seem like lesser patriots because "they let Germany get away with it", all countries we ever occupied do that occasionally.

russia should

Poland
No, it'd make immigrants come here.

The only way Germany could every repay for their crimes against humanity is with total annihilation of the German state and a systematic execution of all of its people.

Poland should first give Pomeriana and Silesia in return then.

that's mainstream thought in germany and the government tries their best

yes
and pay your debts to Greece
you german subhumans

Ah yes, the high IQ "Dutchman".

>do some horrible shit
>don't pay reps for it
>you should give us your land if you want to get paid for the bad shit we've done to you
Kill yourself.

A family member of mine was in a German concentration camp as well (even several (and yes he died in the end)), but that doesn't change the fact that it's German land. We can't continue with punishing this German generation for what their grandparents' parents did.

By this logic you shouldn't expect Poland to give away their land to Germans. You should keep in mind that Germany was pumped with Marshall plan, it wasn't like EU fake gibs, but the actual investement.

Anyway, Pomerania and Silesia were part of Poland since Poland entered the Western world stage in 966/1000. They were also part of Poland for longer than Netherlands exist.

Nice argumentation with the camp thing. Literally:
>i don't hate jews, i have jewish friends XD

Russia
Absolutely, they deserve compensation for what you did to them

>build up poland from the svratch after fall of su
>still hostile and demand reperations
Topkek, poles are cancer

You have to go back, Pidor.

I looked up the last thread and after I had left you still assumed I was posting there
You are really delusional if you think a russian is behind every german flag
Btw ethnic germans here hate poland as much as I do

If Poland return stolen clay, sure.

You're a ruskie. And you know it.

the only reason why Poland have not received any reparation from Germany is very simple,
that is because they are not western European.

if only Poland would belonged to Western Europa, Germany would give them everything what they want.

so it is Poland's fault, Germany's.

Part of my family where expel from lost clay in WWI. Do i get reparations from Poland?

Pomeriana has been German since 1181 and Silesia has been German since 1236 (That's 800 years). Don't forget German tribes (Silingii and Rugii) lived there before your the Polish invaded those lands. By your logic we should get Alsace and Lorraine, because they have been Dutch till the 11th-century. (Even though just French and German dialects are spoken there today). And no it was no a friend, but my grandmothers uncle who was politcal prisoner and wanted to fight the Nazi's from England but was arrested in Paris for that. He has seen camps such as Royallieu in Compiegne and Buchenwald.

>Pomeriana has been German since 1181 and Silesia has been German since 1236 (That's 800 years).
German in this case is a stretch and you know it. HRE wasn't Germany.
Also, Berlin spoke Slavic up to Congress of Vienn. Does that make it Polish?
> Don't forget German tribes (Silingii and Rugii) lived there before your the Polish invaded those lands
Those people were more connected with Swedes, Poles and Ukrainians than with Germans.
Once again not really an argument.
Slavs used to live as far as the Rhine, heck even in Switzerland. Does that make it their land?

You're fucking retarded. Fuck off back to Morocco, Turkey or whatever hellhole you spawned from.

Lithuania
No
Germans should've finished the job lol

Dude, take easy on the We WUZ.

What do you call it then? >germanic tribes used to live here, so it's our land :) my ancestors :)
That's what literally happens when stormfaggots run out of arguments.
>b-but muh germanic tribes
Germanics have fuckall in common with modern Germans. They were also degraded to the role of Slavic servants. "Gocie" meant "peasant" in Old Polish.
Indeed. They should've killed all Lithuanians.

Bceм пpивeт я живy в Poccии и хoчy выпилитьcя,вaм peшaть мoю cyдьбy

You call the Teutonic order Slavic.
Of course they speak the language of his subjects, but this don't make them Slavic.

>I suppose they solved that by giving Poland the Eastern territories of Germany.
Those lands were never German to begin with. They were occupied and germans resettled to breed like the cockroaches they are to "legitimize" germanisation of these areas.

Woah must be the first time I wholeheartedly agree with german government.

>Pomeriana has been German since 1181
There was no fucking "Germany" in 1181. Germany and the concept of german nationalism is as old if not younger than United States of America. Kys.

And the name of pomerania is Slavic, even in fucking german. Pomorze.

roll

>Berlin spoke Slavic up to Congress of Vienn

Lmao

>Slavs used to live as far as the Rhine, heck even in Switzerland. Does that make it their land?

WE WUZ SWISS AND SHIET

>They were occupied and germans resettled to breed like the cockroaches they are to "legitimize" germanisation of these areas.

Reminds me of the early medieval Slavic expansion

>You call the Teutonic order Slavic.
>Of course they speak the language of his subjects, but this don't make them Slavic.
Wut

>Reminds me of the early medieval Slavic expansion
"Eearly" as in pre statehood? Good joke. We're talking about coordinated effort not natural migrations of ooga booga tribes.

>Lmao

>It is not well known that barely a century ago, Prussia, with its then predominantly Slav population, was not considered a German state at all; though its kings, who as princes of Brandenburg were ‘Electors’ of the German Empire, were considered German princes. At the Congress of Vienna, Prussia was registered as a ‘Slav kingdom’; and in 1830 Hegel still spoke even of Brandenburg and Mecklenburg as being populated by ‘Germanized Slavs’.

>WE WUZ SWISS AND SHIET
There were Slavic settlements in Switzerland.

Are you denning that Prussia where a modern state of the templar knights?

fuck reparations


we should be doing everything to destroy germany, for good


fortunately they're doing half the work for us.


eye for an eye, tooth for a tooth

>There were Slavic settlements in Switzerland.
There are Slavic settlements in all places of world. (even in fucking brazil)

>A german majority is not german at all
>A minor Slavic settlements is rightful polish land.

>Are you denning that Prussia where a modern state of the templar knights?
What the fuck do Prussians have with Templar knights?
Once again what the fuck.

Can you please shut the fuck up already, it's like you have no idea what the subject is.

The reason Poland wants those reparations is becasue of immgrant crisis. Germany tries to force muslim cock down our throats so we counter attack with wanting reparations.

>Templar
Teutonic*
I fuck up.
Reasonable reason.

Thailand
No, you should have finished the job desu.

So it's okay to occupy the land of other peoples as long as they haven't formed states yet?

So where does it say that Berlin was Slavic speaking? Also, that quote is by Popper, a non-historian. If you actually check books of that time, the kingdom of Prussia is actually considered a part of Germany, e.g. Madame de Stael's well-known "Of Germany".

books.google.at/books?id=451jAAAAMAAJ&dq=germany&hl=de&source=gbs_navlinks_s

This is especially true for the parts of Prussia which were part of the Holy Roman Empire (such as Berlin); on historical maps, the territory of the HRE is usually labeled simply as "Germany".

>There were Slavic settlements in Switzerland.

lol

Okay, keyboard warrior. Go on claim that Teutonic Kingdom = modern Germany, Second or Third Reich.

Just to add fuel to the flame, Germanic tribes worshipped Slavic god Triglaw.
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triglaw

>So it's okay to occupy the land of other peoples as long as they haven't formed states yet?
What's up with the "Germanic lands" meme anyway?

Germanics living in Poland and Ukraine had nothing to do with modern Germans, heck you can find more of their genetic trace in Spain than in Germany.
Goths and Vandals were Swedish-like. And they weren't pushed out but escaped on their own and the rest was simply assimilated.

>Crimean Goths were I1-M253 as well (just like Wielbark):

forumbiodiversity.com/showthread.php?t=48332&page=2&p=1304256&viewfull=1#post1304256

>(...) Our project tested two people who are descendants of the Crimean Goths, this kit ? 228539 Afenko and kit ? 228541 Aslanov. Their haplogroup (I1-M253) was determined in the course of scientific research laboratory Balanovsky. (...)

>"(...) It corresponds to the Z63+ subclade. I1a3-Z63+ subclade is virtually absent from Nordic countries. It is most common in Central Germany, the Benelux, England, Lowland Scotland, as well as Poland. It has also been found in Russia, Ukraine, the Balkans, Italy, Spain and Portugal. Y2245.2+ makes up a big part of the Z63 in Russia, Ukraine, Poland, the Balkans, Italy and Iberia. It could have been spread by the Goths. BY351+ is a subclade found in Portugal, Spain, Italy (including Sardinia). It was probably spread by the Visigoths and Ostrogoths. (...)"

jassa.org/?p=5964

Here, have a read if you aren't a nationalistic fucktard. But I bet you are, judging by your idiotic posts.

I like it how you liberally use the broad term "Slavic" to include Poles when wewuzzing, but get nitpicky about people using the term "Germanic" to include Germans.

Germanics and Germans are more distant than Slavs and Poles, especially if you refer to Medieval Slavic expansions.

Example:
>Slavs used to live on the Elbe, therefore everything up to the Elbe is Polish land :^)
>Germanics used to live in modern day Poland?! Germans have barely anything to do with those Germanic tribes!

Slavs pushed as a single mass to Western Europe, same people, same culture. Germanics weren't the same. West ones had nothing to do with Eastern ones. They were distant, different people.

Come up with a better bait and I might waste more of my time on you.

Irrelevant, it's still massive hypocrisy. The Poles that lived on the Elbe, the Rhine, Switzerland or whatever were simply not Poles.

See Elbe Slavs were not Poles, therefore Poland has no territorial claims on the land up to the Elbe.

>The Poles that lived on the Elbe
>were simply not Poles.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jaxa_of_Köpenick
Cute.

Neither do Germans to East Germanics following your logic.
So, what's the problem then? It was Austrian that started dick-measuring contest, not me.

The thread started as a war rep thread and turned out into "MUH ANCESTORS" usual bullshit.

South Korea
Never If both countries already made an agreement about it and settled it finally.

>it's another "bunch of faggots on the internet argue about borders like anything they say will matter"
Pro tip borders won't change after you will end this discussion.

>Jaksa being an early Sorbian and/or Polish form of James
>and/or
>According to British historian Norman Davies Jaxa was most likely a Sorb or Lutician.
So it's not known for sure whether or not he had a Polish name, let alone whether or not he was Polish?

>Neither do Germans to East Germanics following your logic.
I don't believe that Germans have territorial claims based on East Germanics.

>So, what's the problem then? It was Austrian that started dick-measuring contest, not me.
I don't have a problem, I merely wanted to clear things up.

>The thread started as a war rep thread and turned out into "MUH ANCESTORS" usual bullshit.
This is also sadly true.

Anyway I'm leaving the argument here because it seems like a nice time to end it.

Respond to this The whole thing makes no sense and has no place. Why do Germanshits always come up with "muh germanic ancestors used to live there :)" when they get BTFO by facts from the actual relevant period? When the actual countries emerged, after the migration period.

I love how retards ITT ignore that Poland lost more than they gained. Western lands were bombed, damaged, Soviets stole entire industry.

No, give the money to Jews. At least they're decent people.

Poles are criminals.

>Why do Germanshits always come up with "muh germanic ancestors used to live there :)" when they get BTFO by facts from the actual relevant period? When the actual countries emerged, after the migration period.
Just to make myself absolutely clear, I never say this. All I'm saying is that while Germans don't have any territorial claims to Polish lands based on East Germanics, Poles don't have any territorial claims to German lands based on Wends. I think this is fair.

But doesn't Poland need to pay Jews reparations to the Jews and Israel for their role in WW2/Holocaust? After all, those were Polish death camps and not German ones.

Hitler didn’t want to exterminate the Jews at the time, he wanted to expel the Jews. And the Polish government went to Hitler and said: “If you expel them, they’ll all come here [to Poland].” Hitler then asked: “What should I do with them?” and the the Poles replied: “Burn them.”

This, last night i raped 4 german women. Sorry about that but you know how it is with liberator genes he he.

>What's up with the "Germanic lands" meme anyway?

The point is that much of the territory that is now inhabited by Slavs was not always Slavic. You made a point that the former German territory did not really belong to the Germans because it was once Slavic. You can play the same game the other way around. As you might know, the Slavs in (former) Eastern Germany were largely assimilated, too.

your pic:

-owo is OH-German for meadow. I remember telling you this already at some point but it seems you prefer denial.
Would by nice to have something more substantial than a blog, other than that, it's just the same hobby-linguistic nonsense as with Aristau. The only interesting thing is the mentioning of the "man called Winda", but it's a far stretch to interpret it as Wend(s) instead of just some family name, given that there are no other substantial proofs of Slavic settlement in the area (your misinterpretation of place-names aren't for sure)

>So it's okay to occupy the land of other peoples as long as they haven't formed states yet?
Nice strawman there.

Are you driving a stolen German car, like half of your country?

>Why do Germanshits always come up with "muh germanic ancestors used to live there :)"

I never said this. A Pole ITT said that Eastern Germany was never German because Slavs used to live there. Going by the same logic, much of the current Slavic land was never Slavic. I reject that logic alltogether, whereas Poles seem to apply it when it suits them and reject it when it doesn't.

>Poles seem to apply it when it suits them and reject it when it doesn't.
This is a recurring theme throughout these shitty wewuz threads

>kaczynski

1. Pole land
2. No. We got fucked by the allies selling us to the soviets and then by the soviets themselves refusing our reparations and Marshall plan. It sucks enormous gorilla dick, but we lost our chance, there's no use crying over it now.

During ww2 Hitler make up/wanted to make up some gothica bs state for the crimea

1. Germany
2. Unironically yes

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All the people who lived during nazi time are dead, so i dont think it would be fair when innocent citizens like me would have to pay money to poles who never suffered from nazi occupation

1.Belarus
2. No. Poland should pay reparations to ex-USSR.

Yes g*rmans are subhumans

Absolutely
>steal a nice merc in germany
>drive for a few months
>it gets some heat
>detail it and sell it in ukraine as brand new

I'm the guy who said we already lost our chance, but that is a pretty bad argument, since the poles living now are in more of a poverty because of the lack of reparations, so it's not like it doesn't affect anyone anymore.

lol

>since the poles living now are in more of a poverty because of the lack of reparations
sure, but since they never suffered from nazi war crimes, i dont believe they are entitled to those reparations

Yes
You wanted the war and killed so many people
You lost the war
You have to pay the consequences of your acts.

Yeah, this. Modern Germans are just Celts larping as Germanics. The only real Germanic country is Sweden.

First of all, Poland has never resigned from German reparations. Soviet occupation government is not Poland. And even if someone were to claim otherwise, that resignment has never been officialy recorded in any sort of document, so the case is possibly still open (our government is going to analyze it now).
So to answer the OP's question - absolutely, Poland should demand reparations from Germany as long as it's legally possible.
Of course Germany will never pay it but it's still good political argument/casus belli. Quick example:
>hurr durr you must accept immigration quotas or you will pay 100k euro for every immigrant refused to take in!!!!11
>no problemo, deduct that from our ww2 reparations
etc

no reperations for you jakub
period
you are jus plkaying in the hands of PIS, how does it feel to be a partyslave

This is literally domestic party politics by PiS to rile up all the angry bydlo. Nothing is going to come of this.
As seen in this thread it seems to work perfectly.

United States

No they shouldn't. Germany already did. Germany is the strongest and most impressive country on that continent, all of its neighbors are trying to keep them down and its infuriating. I wish Germany would be proud of their nation again.

Poland should give reparations to israel for POLISH DEATH CAMPS

poland should just take control of germany by now

fucking mierde mexicaca

mexicacans should pay reperations to Iraq for all the spics that serve in the US military that helped destroy their country.

youtube.com/watch?v=m6PMfTMgp20&ytbChannel=darklifett

Why are the poles ITT so mad?

Wtf Aleksis?
The people who go to usa army being mexican are dumb assholes.
They aren't mexicans , they swear to usa gringo shitty flag. Not to glorious real eagle.

Are you implying I'm a supporter of PiS socialists? If so, you're wrong.

pay dembts to jews

make me

kurwo jebano

lol me in the left

It's funny, but our actual government thinks exactly like that.
This is why their diplomacy has been so fucking effective thus far.

absolutely, although this is just a political move by the Polish government due to the EU's attempts to force refugees on them I sincerely think Germany should have to rebuild everything they destroyed in that country brick-by-brick.

Poland should be cut off from EU Poland and their redevelopment should be a personal responsibility of Germany, because EU funds are basically already reparations which even allied countries have to pay for some reason. Let's stop pretending it's a European responsibility and not solely a German one.

However, I wouldn't support Poland receiving EU development funds AND reparations, that would be excessive.

>Poland should be cut off from EU Poland
not sure how I managed to fuck that up
*Poland should be cut off from EU funding and their redevelopment should be a personal responsibility of Germany