In 74 minutes, the greatest version of the greatest sequel of all time starts on Film4 in bongland

In 74 minutes, the greatest version of the greatest sequel of all time starts on Film4 in bongland.

The greatest ALien film of all time.

Aliens: Special Edition.

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Can I come over and watch?

It still amazes me how much people love this mediocre flick

mediocre isn't the right word, its craft is impeccable, the power of the movie is undeniable, but it bugs me that people treat it as some sort of quantum leap forward from Alien when it's beat-for-beat very nearly the same story and makes all sorts of concessions to commercialism, convention, and james cameron's own cheesy taste that th efirst movie doesn't.

does it have grain on?

>take horror psychosexual rape-monster with magnificent imagery and turn it into an easily-killed ant
>remove any of the horror mystery of its reproduction by reducing it to bugs
>completely remove any of the biomechanical sexual elements from its design
>make a generic "army goes in to kill aliens" movie with lowest-common denominator plot and dialogue
>load it with quips and bland filmmaking
>somehow it's considered one of the best sequels of all time instead of a bastardization and the beginning of the quick and sudden descent in quality of the franchise

It's because Aliens and Terminator 2 proved the power of sequels. It's not that Aliens is an amazing film, but a great sequel. After years of sub-par runoff from horror franchises like Nightmare on Elm St and Halloween, James Cameron gave Hollywood a masterclass in how to expand a franchise without devolving into redundancy.

Ali3n is better not even memeing.

No this is wrong and myopic. Back in the day conventional wisdom was that a sequel would do around half the business of the original movie (don't you miss those days?) and one of the franchises you cite, A Nightmare on Elm Street, was actually among the first to buck that trend and increase its business from sequel to sequel. This was the year before Aliens. There was also Rocky III, Rambo II, Return of the Jedi, James Bond, et al. And sequels had critical respect with movies like Godfather Part II.

Man some time ago people weren't this fucking autistic about sequels.

I unironically like alien 3.
a space prison is a great setting for a movie.

Here's the real order.
Alien: Resurrection > Prometheus > Alien > Alien 3 Theatrical > Alien 3 Assembly Cut > Aliens Extended > Aliens Theatrical

What's special about it my nig nog, I only own Alien 1 Directors Cut

Except no one remembers Rocky III, Rambo II, or any of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels. Godfather Part II gets name-dropped all the time but no one actually remembers what it was about or why it was "better" than the original. Return of the Jedi is the only one you named with any staying power. Aliens and Judgement Day are remembered as the best films in their respective franchise, unlike any of the movies you just named. The Empire Strikes Back is a more apt comparison, since it is also remembered as the best film in its franchise.

>no one remembers Rocky III or Rambo 2
Are you mentally retarded or 12?

>>take horror psychosexual rape-monster with magnificent imagery and turn it into an easily-killed ant
They were a group marines with though weapons and flamethrowers, if you make the monster invulnerable to everything it's not fun at all.
>>remove any of the horror mystery of its reproduction by reducing it to bugs
Nobody fucking cared or cares that another bigger xenomorph laid down the eggs, did you just think they came out of thin air or something?
>completely remove any of the biomechanical sexual elements from its design
The design is literally the same.
>make a generic "army goes in to kill aliens" movie with lowest-common denominator plot and dialogue
Yeah because "rescue team gets fucked by monster" is much more original and thought-provoking.
>load it with quips and bland filmmaking
It only has quips at the beginning before they start getting their shit fucked up, and it serves the narrative purpose of showing how they don't take the mission seriously.

pretty sure you're the only one

>Godfather Part II gets name-dropped all the time but no one actually remembers what it was about or why it was "better" than the original.

cool thank you for me letting me know your intellectual & emotional development was arrested at 12-years-old and i don't need to bother with this conversation.

i want to give you some advice though, making confident assertions about things you know nothing about only works when everybody else is as stupid and ignorant as you are. otherwise it's really embarrassing. like with regards to movies, you could say shit like that in the comments section of a chris stuckman video and not immediately get outed as a know-nothing, but even a shithole like Sup Forums has a thin patina of people with some degree of intellectual curiosity and historical perspective.

>Except no one remembers... any of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels
Behave yourself. Three is probably more entertaining (not better) than number one, and two is notorious for its flagrant abuse of homoerotic imagery.

>i don't need to bother with this conversation
>i want to give you some advice though
>(rambles autistically)

please control yourself

Imagine having a shit and hearing hissing then looking down the toilet bowl to see a xenomorph smiling at you.

it would be funny if I started jerking off and then shit on its face haha

Have you ever thought that a xenomorph is capable of giving you two blowjobs at once?

Pleb: The Post.

>Except no one remembers Rocky III, Rambo II, or any of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels.
Are you genuinely retarded, kid?

would be a much better movie without ripley turning into rambo in the end

Sure thing.

Bring the popcorn and lube.

>Except no one remembers Rocky III, Rambo II, or any of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels.
>or any of the Nightmare on Elm Street sequels.
Tons of people remember and still love A Nightmare on Elm Street Part 3: Dream Warriors

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How do I get out of this chickenshit bonus situation?

>it serves the narrative purpose of showing how they don't take the mission seriously
The film makes this so obvious but I never noticed it until now. The film really does shift in tone before/after the massacre. Great point.

Aliens is just so much deeper and complex than the original. I mean, if you just want to turn your brain off when watching a flick then Alien is your best bet, but if you want a film with complex themes then Aliens is for you.

Prometheus is the deepest film in the Alien franchise by far.

Too bad it's shit.
I guess you're just memeing, but I unironically found the themes on Prometheus very interesting, they were massively wasted on such garbage.

Well it's not like they don't take the mission seriously, it's just they think they'll do fine.
On the first half they joke and quip but they do everything according to plan, they don't get ahead of themselves and proceed methodically and carefully, and all that makes the following carnage even more impressive, despite all their preparation and skills they get blown the fuck out to the point that the surviving ones spend the rest of the movie silent and focused (the spic woman or the useless lieutenant when he wakes up) or neurotic and nervous (that dude with the black hair whose name I don't remember).

This nigger knows what's up

This had better be low quality bait

I hate that Aliens is enjoyable
it's a good movie but not a good alien movie
which means it's a shit movie
if you take it on its own it would be great, but it's a direct sequel, so you can't
I can say that I love it and that Apone is my favourite ever, and that the way they dealt with training the actors by letting Apone - who was actualy a vietnam vet - train them was amazing
but it doesn't change the fact that it's a shit sequel
I just wish they'd come out and put everything after Alien and Alien Isolation into its own seperate canon or something, there's no fun to be had from trying to force two very different forms of alien together
let me have my pantswetting sexual horror and the hoorah devil dogs action movie too, goddamnit

>Alien Isolation
You have to be over 18 to post here, kid.

>Aliens>>>>>>>Alien
>T2>>>>>>>>>>The Terminator
>Avatar 2>>>>>>>>>Avatar
They don't call him James "The Sequel Stallion" Cameorn for nothing.

And here's the greatest fan trailer ever made for the film!

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Literally have to watch the movie every time i watch this trailer

HOLY SHIT that was pretty good! Whens this coming out!? DAYONEWETHERE

Fantastic.

This is already better than Blompkmapfs shit

I was fine with that. It would have been a good point to remove Ripley from the franchise though.

GET AWAY FROM HER YOU BITCH!

link?

>Godfather Part II gets name-dropped all the time but no one actually remembers what it was about or why it was "better" than the original.
>Aliens and Judgement Day are remembered as the best films in their respective franchise

Pleb.