Why is this movie so fucking good

Why is this movie so fucking good

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It's not.

What movie?

Great storytelling, action, music and a great villain.

It has a few flaws, but the positives outweigh it very well.

The best comic book film of all time.

Calm down it isn't BvS.

Because, dun dun dun, it practiced good filming.

Editing, pacing, characterization, pictures, all great. It wasn't hurr durr CGI fest and quips.

Your standard for "good" is lowbrow

i bet you like fight club and avatar too

It proved what a superhero movie can be.

>good filmmaking is intellectual, not emotional

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Trash

I can't believe people like this, it really shows how completely brain dead most people are

Well made, amazing casting and fucking Batman

It made Burtons Batman flicks look embarrassing

Fight Club is a perfect film. Note that I didn't say it was the best film, but practically it's flawless filmmaking, it perfectly achieves what it sets out to do.
>inb4 it's bad because some of its fans are retards
That's every film idiot

Avatar is just garbage.

It actually is highbrow for a blockbuster movie

Wrong thread, we're not talking about B Vs S

It's just good. It's not a masterpiece. I think anyone who thinks it is needs to rewatch it with a critical and modern lens.

Yes, Ledger's performance is great, but that distracts people from how awful Bale's performance is. It was awful in Begins, and it's awful in TDK. It's laughable, and not just because of the voice.
The Joker is a little too cuh-rayzee as well. Yes, he's a crazy person, but literally just setting fire to shitloads of money for no reason isn't crazy. It's just retarded and blatantly made to make him look cool.

It's also pretty pseudo-deep. It's about as deep as capeshit film can get, but compare it to any of Batman's top-tier comics and the themes are very average, not explored to the fullest.

THIS is real kino.

Anyone remember seeing this opening weekend? The line started outside and went all the way outside

Meant inside :]

>but literally just setting fire to shitloads of money for no reason isn't crazy. It's just retarded and blatantly made to make him look cool

Are you stupid

The Joker is an insane person, not a moron. He's a crimelord, he robs banks so he can do crazy shit with the money and fuck with Batman.
Yeah it's an adaptation but "look he's so CRAZY" sticks out to me, it's trying too hard.

holy fuck you're retarded

nice talking to you dude

>being this dense
Joker is an agent of anarchy. Money has no meaning to an anarchist. Anarchy is a major theme in the film. You need to watch more movies.

>editing pacing
>all great

It was made by a truly gifted director

Great argument. Really made me think.

not an argument

>money has no meaning to an anarchist
>except an anarchist who needs to buy bombs and guns and shit to get anything done

or did he just make all those himself off-screen with his gun-making powers?
does he burn all the money he steals?
like how's this whole system work if he's so whacky and kooky?

unless your point is that anarchists are retards in which case yeah, but this is the definition of "ignoring having a character that makes sense in order to make retards think your movie is cool and deep"

Unlike Nicholson’s multileveled characterization, Ledger reduces The Joker to one-note ham-acting and trite symbolism. If you fell for the evil-versus-evil antagonism of There Will Be Blood, then The Dark Knight should be the movie of your wretched dreams. Nolan’s unvaried direction drives home the depressing similarities between Batman and his nemeses.

Nolan’s single trick is to torment viewers with relentless action montages; distracting ellipses that create narrative frustration and paranoia. Delayed resolution. Fake tension. Such effects used to be called cheap. Cheap like The Joker’s psychobabble: “Madness, as you know, is like gravity—all it takes is a little push.” The Dark Knight is the sentinel of our cultural abyss. All it takes is a push.

>but literally just setting fire to shitloads of money for no reason isn't crazy.
He tells Batman while he's in interrogation that he used to rip off criminals.
He burnt the money because he wants to intentionally cripple their ability to do anything even if he leaves or loses. He was always going to fuck them over, requesting half their funds was likely even just to test their gullibility and then later take advantage of it.

>I'm a man of simple tastes. I like dynamite, and gunpowder, and gasoline! Do you know what all of these things have in common? They're cheap
>It's not about money, it's about sending a message

He burnt his half (with Lao on top of the pile) and used the other half to pay all the new henchmen and fund his operation. He has enough money and doesn't give a fuck, point in fact he hates all the criminals that don't believe in anything and are only in it for the money, it's literally one of this Joker's defining characteristics, and you're saying it's bad and he shouldn't burn money because it's not fiscally sound? Yes user no one has ever wasted a large amount of money before unrealistic/10

He burned the money after he had everything he needed already. The movie was quite clear on that.

>like how's this whole system work if he's so whacky and kooky?
Weren't you paying attention? The Joker goads people into letting him into their system and then manipulates it from the inside to take it apart for kicks.

He got his disposable money, guns and what not from disposable gangs and mobs he worked for.
>Then why do they trust him?
They don't, he approaches them when they're at a point of ignorance or desperation and manipulates it. They wanted to kill him the minute he walked in for not only stealing money from them earlier but disrespecting them but they had the seemingly bigger problem of Batman on the table who unlike Joker wasn't up for negotiating. Until they learned how much of a problem Joker could and would be later.

TDK Joker's whole thing is about turning power on its head. Like when Batman smashed his head into the glass in an attempt to intimidate him Joker didn't even feel threatened, what with knowing Batman couldn't kill him while Harvey and Rachel were wired up and Joker was the only one who knew where they were, all Joker saw was a broken shard to later use as a weapon after goading a police officer into getting too close to him. He then used that officer's life to goad someone into letting him make a phone call that would trigger a detonator..

Would neither of the boats really not trigger the detonater?

Best scene in the movie. I want to see this shit on IMAX again

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Nolan is not ballsy enough for this
Everything chould be full of hope and escapism

It actually depresses me that this was once the quality I came to expect out of a Batman movie. The hype was so fucking real for TDK and seeing it in theater was sick. There will never be another superhero movie like this.

It's not about him being crazy, burning the money is a revolutionary act. It's to show he's moved beyond human desires and has become Batman's equal and opposite as an ideological monster.

>Nolan is not ballsy enough for this
>Everything chould be full of hope and escapism

Did we watch the same film? Killing Harvey was worse than blowing up a boat that no one cares about. The Joker even tells him this at the end.

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Batman literally cries to Alfred about how he personally inspired people like the Joker

In the context of the story the Joker is not just the villain. He also plays the role of the supernatural trickster, who guides the hero along on his journey and takes him to places he doesn't want to go.

One of characteristics of tricksters is that they aren't bound to the rules of the universe (think Q from Star Trek). They can know things they shouldn't know, show up in places they shouldn't be, and have things they shouldn't have.

You're taking the story as some sort of documentary. The Joker's not a real person, he's Ferris Bueller. It doesn't matter how he got on the damn float.

>It's not p-plotholes. joker is a trickster, see? thats the point. b-bravo Nolan ha-ha

>show up in places they shouldn't be

Just like Bruce in TDKR? Batman is a trickster too))

>how come the cheshire cat keeps disappearing? Must be a plothole!!!!

What sort of style is this?

It's a DC easter egg, he's dressed like Constantine

Its okay in context of the universe.
TDK never implied that Joker had superpowers

are you asking about the architecture?
it looks like some kind of mies van der rohe building
are you asking about the decor?
the speakers at least are bang and olufsen

He doesn't have superpowers, he's just "different". This is actually brought up in the film, when Batman can't figure out where the fuck he goes when he's not onscreen. He aknowledges that the rules don't apply to the Joker and resolves to break them in order to find him.

It's retarded to complain about him paying his henchmen or buying bullets cause he burned the money. It's stupid "muh realism" shit. Nothing the Joker does is unusual for a supernatural trickster. No one has to say "This guy is not natural", although in the film they pretty much do.

Batman Begins, the superior film out of the Nolan Batman trilogy

Link 1 great action scene in any Nolan Batman movie

>Yes, he's a crazy person, but literally just setting fire to shitloads of money for no reason isn't crazy. It's just retarded and blatantly made to make him look cool.
>uses words 'cuh-rayzee'
>calls the film 'pseudo-deep'
>calls bale's performance awful

Keep posting so we can continue the chuckle you autistic fuck.

Even DKR is better than that garbage