You have 10 seconds to explain how universal healthcare isn't a net positive to the country

You have 10 seconds to explain how universal healthcare isn't a net positive to the country.

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Resources are not and will never be free.

And right now they're being squandred by people who don't need them while millions go broke and have to turn to crime to pay their bills.

Why should I have to subsidize useless people?

> squandred

Explain.

>people who don't need them

Says who?

>while millions go broke and have to turn to crime to pay their bills.

>socioeconomic meme is a valid excuse for criminal behavior

niggers stealing is not excused by pointing a finger at how poor they are.

>nature is survival of the fittest, not the fattest

Not an argument.

>need

There's that word again.

"Not an argument" is not a rebuttal.

Why should someone who went to school for between 8-12 years and paid over $100,000 in the process work essentially for free through government payments? Notice how countries with free healthcare are on a shortage of doctors.

Fuck you and fuck your bills, faggot.

It's funny, I thought we outlawed slavery.

>Explain.

Tell me why that man needs a 50,000 square foot home. Tell me that resources couldn't be better put to use elsewhere. There are millions and millions of homeless people that just need a roof over their head at night, and a first world country like the US can't supply it but Fat CEO can have 8 million dollar mansions that could house dozens of people each. That's completely absurd.

Why should someone be expected to give away their earned possessions simply because someone else has none?

>needs

You really like that word, don't you?

>You have 10 seconds to explain how universal healthcare isn't a net positive to the country.
It just allows poor and retarded people to get as sick as they can, they will no longer have a reason to take good care of themselves because daddy goverment will pay the bill.

I work on the mexican health care system for workers, and jesus fucking christ!!! always the most retarded people are the ones who have more children, and half of the people here are diabetics that dont give a fuck about their health because the goverment gives them a monthly payment for their sickness

>actually advocating socialism
You do realize that all people with a net worth of a billion dollars or over (most likely the type of person you're talking about) are actually massive successes, right?

Why the hell are you advocating for successful people to have the fruits of their labor stripped? Furthermore, why are you advocating for failures (Hint: Almost all Homeless people don't actually want to work, I know this because I went homeless for 9 months at 18 to save up and get enough money to rent a place) to be given resources that they will waste?

Leftist bullshit falls apart the minute you actually go into slums mate, try it.

Personally, I think OP should have his Internet bandwidth throttled to 28k so the government can give the remaining bandwidth to people who really need it. There's no reason OP should need all this speed just to shitpost while millions of other people can't get online to post resumes, look for jobs, etc. Those people are having to turn to crime to steal bandwidth. That isn't right.

>yfw OP's parents pay for xis Internet anyway so the analogy will be completely lost on xim

Messes up the market, since the government doesn't have to make a profit and people working under the government won't care as much as the private sector. For example, Americans have higher stroke and five year cancer survival rates than many Canadians and Europeans. At the same time, people in those areas have to wait horrendously long times compared to the United States since people can abuse the system because it is free and clog it up with stupid things. Doctors also have less of an incentive, like in Britain they have a doctor and equipment shortage also contributing to the aforementioned issue.

>really big mcmansion
>he doesn't deserve his really big mcmansion
>resources

Wew baby, a big house built out of bricks (made of dried mud/clay), concrete (ground up rocks), some wood (grown back in a few decades), and then mostly electronics that contain the same materials found in every shitty small apartment where a big screen TV is.

Where else should these resources go?

Who gets to decide who is allowed to acquire resources and who isn't?

What's the moral argument for taking away someone else's fruits of labor?

>There are millions and millions of homeless people that just need a roof over their head at night

[citation needed]

Clearly European governments can house a million dunecoons, so it is an issue of will and not a "resource shortage".

>and a first world country like the US can't supply it but Fat CEO can have 8 million dollar mansions that could house dozens of people each. That's completely absurd.

Doesn't justify wealth redistribution.

It would be a great thing for America...

...provided that we sort out immigration and do many other things that we will not do to ensure it does not become a disaster

Why make it so that only one provider can offer health care? Is that not the definition of a monopoly? You're only making it so that the provider can arbitrarily adjust rates, wages and prices depending on what the entirety of the government need at the time, not by the market price of healthcare. The government is just monopolising a market with all the legislative power of the people behind it in a country with universal health care. Long story short, a competitive market of health care/insurance providers will always offer cheaper rates and prices than what the government will force you to pay regardless of whether the price is fair or not.

Look at Obamacare, all it did was help insurance corporations tighten their grip on competitors, making them less liable to the competitive market, allowing them to raise prices, why do you think just one insurance provider ran by a bureaucratic arm of the government is going to be any less of an extortionate monopoly?

All this coming from a Britcuck who has less liberty to the money in his wallet than the paki chavs soaking up benefits.

>lives in a socialist nation
>cries about socialism

Why not move to Somalia then where you won't get those benefits at all and you'll be accountable only to yourself?

I'm actually moving to the United States (California for a bit then we'll jump over to Oregon) around Christmas.

How about you leave your nation and come here, where the majority of your money goes to retarded aboriginals and dole bludgers and nothing ever gets done, fuckhead?

How old are you anyway? You in University?

Maybe you should try going to University, maybe then you'll understand basic economics.

I deplore going to the doctor and I shouldn't have to pay for the poor health of others.

How old are you, and are you in University? Don't dodge the question.

Also, I'm not a fan of theory just for the sake of theory. If I want to learn something, I want to learn it to actually help me in my life. The only exception to this is philosophy.

So, no. I'm not going to go to University and fuck around for 4 years learning random bullshit when I can actually learn something I can use on my own, in my own time.

Since you're sooo good at economics, tell me this:

How do you plan to pay for all doctors and medical staff when the money you pay them (and all money going to the medical sector in general) is raised by taxes and taxes alone? Are you aware of how much a trauma surgeon earns on average? (Hint: 400k) How about an ER doctor? (hint: around 200k) Fuck, how about a neurosurgeon? (hint: 100k to 800k or more)

How the fuck do you plan to pay for this? How do you plan to cover the people who avoid taxes, or straight up don't exist?

If you're going to have universal healthcare, how do you cover for the people who aren't citizens? You'll have to take them in and they're not going to pay a cent for potentially extremely costly treatment.

This argument works when you think about it from an emotional standpoint, but not when you actually think about it.

You fucking went to University and you believe in this shit? I've met smarter people that were grunts in the army.

>I know nothing of socialism and think that a multibillion dollar CEO actually does billions of dollars worth of work

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>he didn't even answer a single question

Thanks for Correcting The Record.

Universal healthcare in america would be a disaster given the current lifestyle of the general public: horrible eating habits, little to no exercise, smoking, drinking. Not to mention very low birthrate which will only result in a small number of the population paying for fatties and old people.

>1/4th of people morbidly obese
>Several hundreds of thousands indoctrinated into getting hormonal injections
>people are dying from smoking (me included)
>lax border regulations
>no way to account for premiums or deductible variability
>niggers and spics breeding like rabbits living well above their means on social handouts already

>get mysterious lump on my head
>call the hospital
>lol gotta wait 6 months for an appointment because socialism is awesome
>die from cancer before I even see a doctor

Crime and poverty do not strongly correlate, people are not stealing in the romanticized way of trying to feed their kids they steal in their own self interests. The peasant taking a loaf of bread era is gone.

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>Crime and poverty do not strongly correlate

Guess that's why black people commit more crime and are disproportionately poorer than whites.

Funny how that totally doesn't correlate.