ATHIESTS BT*O

ATHIESTS BT*O

Faith can still be kept in a place that tries so hard to destroy it
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Absolute Jesuitkino

Oh boy. I can't wait for my atheist friend to hate this movie simply because it focuses on religion. Motherfucker said the Conjuring was a horrible movie and a moral problem for telling audiences that all that spiritual stuff really happened.

Silence was amazing. I don't know if I could sit through it again though. It's really difficult to watch. I'd say it's more intense that Passion of the Christ.

Hi friend, atheist here. I haven't seen Silence, but if it's anything like the rest of Scorsese's work it's a fantastic film. I don't get worked up about Christianity in movies, it's film after all, a fantastical medium by nature. The Passion of the Christ was highly enjoyable torture porn for instance, on par with Hostel 2.

Typical onboxious atheist.

Pure kino, your friend is a fucking jap for letting his belief deter him from an artistic film about faith.
Also cant wait for the film Denial to release as to trigger all the Sup Forums fags :^)

I used to have a friend who claimed to be an agnostic but I swear he was 100% atheist. Holy shit he got so triggered every single fucking time when something even slightly optimistic or positive was mentioned about religion.

>Scorsese has never made a Western, but “Silence” is the closest thing to it—it’s his version of John Ford’s “The Searchers. The Western is the philosophical and political genre par excellence, because it considers a pre-bureaucratic state in which societal functions are realized onscreen in direct, physical action. In “Silence,” Scorsese borrows the genre’s stripped-down framework in order to observe the physical exertion of brutal power.

>“Silence” approaches grave philosophical, political, and psychological matters unflinchingly. It rises to a harrowing crescendo of overlapping strains of agony—physical and emotional, spiritual and moral—that is among the strangest, most intricately tangled of all of Scorsese’s creations.

>The movie’s extraordinary conclusion—anchored by a letter to parallel the one by Ferreira that begins the film—redefines the very notion of martyrdom and of the bearing of witness. With a shiver of irony, Scorsese reaches far within himself and far beyond himself, beyond even the scope of his formidable technique, to test the very threshold of the cinema. At its terrifying best, even when Scorsese’s mighty power of invention falters or his efforts show, “Silence” is beyond good and bad.

Finally, the age of Catholikino is upon us.

>Theists are 99.99% of the USA population
>A single shitty movie is a huge victory to that overwhelming majority
Literally niggers

I'm an atheist and I'm currently watching a show about fucking angels. Most of us stop being insufferable when we get past 15.

Some of the greatest films of all time focus on religion and it doesn't bother me at all.

Typical uneducated athiest thinking the USA=World

I like Brody's definition of Westerns, it's very elegant and relevant. What it really comes down to is the conflicts, and that is the context of Western conflicts.

I'm an atheist and I liked Silence. I grew watching and loving Catholic kino.

But I do have to say Bergman et al have done this sort of stuff for decades much much better.

Uh, Rodriguez was forced into Buddhism and lived the rest of his life excommunicated and hated by the Church, and was brought in just like Ferreira to break Christians. The faith didn't exactly survive.

I liked Silence but let's not pretend like religion isn't the one thing holding back the world from becoming a utopia.

did you watch the ending? his personal faith survived.

>Faith can be kept where people need faith to get through the day
Obviously, you Christcuck

You mean Ferreira whom at the end of his life uttered the words "our lord"?
Or how Rodriguez had a Buddhist burial while holding a cross at the end?

Good.

This. I dont even get what religious people want anymore aside from not letting people do things.

You can be a Buddhist and a Christian at the same time, bro. Buddhism isn't the worship of Buddha

um, they literally have a whole book that explains what religion is.

starts with a B and rhymes with piehole

I've read the book but I haven't seen this movie, does it deviate from the book a lot? Any major changes?

But all that book says is dont do things cause God won't like them.

Religion creates unmatchable beauty

>I liked Silence but let's not pretend like religion isn't the one thing holding back the world from becoming a utopia.

You need to be 18 to post on this site user

Simple atheist, its about personal faith. Japan outlawed Christianity, Buddhism was their religion and the film outright tells you the seed for Christianity can not grow in the swamp that is Japan. Yet our hero still kept his faith even up to the very end. Proving wrong what the inquisitor said.

Maybe it wasnt broken down and spelled out enough for your simple atheist brain

Explain how non-Islamic religion is holding the world back.

>he hasn't read the bible

Breh what does organized religion actually contribute to society aside from piece of mind?

I'm going off the book, which only mentions what the characters did afterwards in the appendices. I'm aware that Rodriguez still believed in his faith and according to Wikipedia the real Ferreira recanted on his deathbed but the book doesn't explicitly go into that. It also doesn't change that Japan successfully destroyed the Vatican's missionary attempts.

Modern Buddhism, maybe. But Inoue was extremely intent on destroying Christianity's roots.

I didn't watch the film, I just heard they got tortured

Trying to not allow population control and encouraging having children regardless of if you can afford them or not.

Tortured by choice to prove their faith in God to the inquisitor

Laws
Terrorist attacks

>BABY KILLERS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Sure that was part of it. But I'm sure most of them didn't want to apostasies presumably so they wouldn't lose their salvation. As Ferreria says, the Japanese hardly had a firm grasp on the religion to begin with due to language barriers.

Catholicism does
Au revoir les enfants, The Gospel According to St. Matthew, Bicycle Thieves and now Silence

Protestant movies are God's Not Dead-tier shit

How does religion prevent terrorist attacks? Yoy are confusing morality with religion.

Laws exist without religion.

>Piece of mind.
Oh, you are a troll or a retard.

>Irreligion on the rise worldwide
Feels good.
Still gonna go and see this movie though.

Doesn't the Priest they are looking for renounces religion though?

If anything, it emphasises the difference between faith and organized religion.

maybe you should watch the film first. Scorsese adapted it himself (it was his passion project for decades) so he focuses on stuff that he's specifically concerned with, like who recanted when, who witnesses what, public vs private conflicts of faith.

And it primarily uses Rodriguez as a stand-in for Catholicism as a whole, and the Inquisitor as a stand-in for all of Japan. So yeah, the film deals with the death of Catholicism in Japan in its totality, not just as an account of two priests.

>an agnostic but I swear he was 100% atheist

Agnostic vs gnostic has nothing to do with the actual belief in a higher power.

I have an active belief in a god - theist
I do not have an active belief in a god - atheist
I have concrete proof of my stance - gnostic
I dont have concrete proof of my stance - agnostic

So when you hear a fedora tier atheist claims without a doubt there is no god, he is just being a "strong" or "gnostic" atheist who falls into the same sort of crowd as the obnoxious picket sign religious nuts.

>believing in religion
>calling others retarded
>cant explain how religion does anything except give people piece of mind and make a bunch of sheep follow rules

>ATHIESTS
you spelled 'jews' wrong, you dumb fuck

>trips

What did God mean by this?

The term is PEACE OF MIND, you retard, but nice trips.

Jews have already snubbed this film for an Oscar nom for Deadpool instead. Wish i were lying

Answer the question. Spelling aside.

>piece of mind
he can't be stopped

It was an Iron Maiden album

spoiler alert if you haven't watched it:
at the end it's implied he never renounced it fully.

>"you will deny me three times"
>post denying god has trips
>trips=number appearing three times in a row

Religion is for the weak and stupid.

Christ also trips three times on the way to Calvary.

>trips
>three times

Trips = son, father and the holy spirit

ATHIESTS BTFO

>Being sure that there is no god based on the fact that every god worshiped so far has been made up by humans and the Universe doesn't follow supernatural laws plus any other personal god is also made up by humans based on their understanding/interpretation of the universe so knowing that it doesn't mean it's the truth is obnoxious
Sure, buddy

But that user said religion was for chumps and he got the trips of truths.

Is God calling you all chumps?

Dogma is dogma no matter what side its on

where are you guys watching this
did it come out yet

>Driving force for advancements in art and architecture.

Uhhhh. You do realize that was only after thousands of years of suppressing it right?

>Religious reasoning in a nutshell

Kek retard

>Calling it dogma instead of 'following the evidence where it leads'
What kind of retard are you that you have to SQUEEZE the interpretation of a god where it's not needed?

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ATHEISTS BTFO

Specifics?

kek

>what are the Dark Ages

You know, the things that put society back approximately 1,000 years because of muh god.

LA and NY got limited releases that ended on Monday.

it came out in Europe last week.

So...basically a remake of the The Mission (1986) ?

It's based off a book written in 1966, retard.

>Dark Ages.
meme history. history.com/news/history-lists/6-reasons-the-dark-ages-werent-so-dark

>religion was responsible for greatest architectural and artistic feats
>its not because the Pope was rich af and he wanted a sweet crib and paintings to show how fucking loaded the Church is

Dumb fuck, explain the Medici's then

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Being skeptical and following evidence in modern science using the scientific method is great.
But you cannot inherently make concrete decisions on the supernatural based upon it.
It doesnt work that way

And when people do, its dogma.

You only say this for the silly shit you believe in user.

It's okay to dismiss unicorns and Thor, but when it comes to angels and miracles 'we need to reserve our judgement'

you're clueless as fuck.

Numerous innovations came out of the so-called "Dark Ages", often invented by religious men. Like eyeglasses, water wheels, the stirrup, metal armor, gunpowder weapons, castles, improved plows, crop rotation, vertical windmills, a vast expansion of water-powered mechanisation, tidal mills, mechanical trip hammers, blast furnaces, stern rudders, weight driven clocks, metal rolling mills, tredle-operated vertical looms, steel span crossbows and the printing press. To which we could also add artesian drilling, chimneys, treadmill cranes, harbour cranes, floating cranes, mast cranes, oil paints, the hourglass, the compound crank, waterpowered paper mills, the dry compass, the astronomical compass, the nocturnal, the albion and the altitudinal dial. For a period in which Christianity was apparently "retarding" technology, they sure did manage to come up with a lot of innovation.

Carl Theodor Dreyer was a Protestant. It's post-Methodist and Evangelical Christianity that's anti-art.

>Bicycle Thieves
>having ANYthing to do with Catholicism

>You only say this for the silly shit you believe in user.

Im an atheist who believes in the scientific method.
Lack of evidence means that you should be skeptical and should not accept something on faith.

But that doesnt mean its not true, and that doesnt mean evidence in the future will never show up.
Thats how the scientific method works.

It will not (maybe ever) disprove a higher being.
To misconstrue and misunderstand how skepticism within the scientific method works is dogma. Its also why everyone hates atheists.

We're all gonna pretend that this isn't a remake because no one has seen the Shinoda version, correct?

There's literally no reason or evidence to believe in any of that supernatural shit, if everything in the Universe is a natural occurrence, then it's logical to surmise that the Universe doesn't need anything supernatural to explain it. It's not accepting it on faith, it's following the evidence to the most logical conclusion, you still have religious thought dwelling in that brain of yours.

Let's not pretend the moral-relativism and rampant individualism started in the 60s isn't completely responsible for the decline of the West and its imminent collapse

Any form of christianity does, my friend

>it's following the evidence to the most logical conclusion

Coming to the most logical conclusion is not concrete proof of anything user. Why is this so hard to understand?

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No, American Protestants are unimaginative, zealous idiots. Evangelicals are a blight on Christianity and one of the main reasons it is losing traction in the West

Atheists and agnostics make up like over 20% of the us population

no, but sweeping generalisations about the "decline of the West" doesn't help either.

>Dark Ages

Ah this meme again.

>What is Andrei Rublev
>What is Tree of Life
>What is Passion of Joan of Arc
Come on dumbass. The charade is over. Nobody here falls for the meme that Catholicism is good or better than other forms of Christianity.

Also, Pasolini was a gay atheist you dumbass

>Le you can't disprove god
Too bad I don't have to. Arguments don't prove a god exists. Combined with the lack of evidence for a god, the most logical conclusion is bound to be more true than the illogical conclusion that Theists might try to come up with

What about Bergman, my dude

How does your most logical conclusion explain the existence of anything?

Jesus christ no.
That's the new age hippie "I have never read a single sutra but I'm going to believe my californian yoga instructor anyway, even if yoga is not related to buddhism in any way, shape or form" buddhism.
There IS an element of faith in Buddhism and there is an element of worship depending on the school, for example Theravada is basically a mix of Indian/Chinese/Japanese mythology with famous characters from earlier ages becoming Bodhisattva to keep the local faith.

Guan Yu is a Bodhisattva in Chinese Buddhism for example, people literally pray to him.
You literally can't enter Sri Lanka if you have a Buddhist tattoo, that's how seriously they take their religion.

>they did well so nu uh!

Kek, the point retard is they would have done even better if Christianity wasn't goig around murdering everyone who tried to research anything science related.

Thats like saying "well even though the plague came through we salvaged 1/3 of the crop!"

Jesus Christ religionfags really so have the lowest IQ.