Why the hell is Canadian government so controlling? There is a lot of example but in particular I am speaking about raw milk.
I envy the fact that in the states you can buy raw milk if you like, you are given that choice.
I dont understand why we arent allowed to have that choice? Literally no reason to ban or outlaw it.
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Big daddy government has to protect us.
Dairy jews like saputo and the Canadian dairy commission have control over that they don't want unpasteurized or American dairy coming in to Canada cause if they let it happen business and restaurants wouldn't have to pay there insane markup on milk I currently pay 9.06 for a 4L of homo for my restaurant
>3$ for 2 quarts of something less processed
>a gallon of pasteurized milk is 3$ here
must be those jews trying to ruin milk for the white man
Can you not buy it from farms? I thought it was the same with non-preserved wine, where you can buy it from the vineyard, but they aren't allowed to ship it to stores, as it would/could spoil, and you'd have no idea if the product you bought was toxic.
I thought raw milk was illegal for sale in the US for health reasons. You can still drink it, you just can't buy it.
I.e. get your own cow or make friends with a farmer.
>libertarians don't understand government roles in safety nets
I bet you're against fluoride in our water, too, right?
Great! The Government banned it from cleaning our water mains 35 years ago.
Raw milk is illegal in a lot of parts of the US. You can buy it for animals or at a farm but I think the only state that sells raw milk at stores is California
You can do that in the UK but Canadian farmers are not allowed to sell directly to people.
The US government is very controlling as well, but we are 10-15 years behind the rest of the west. It's all thanks to our constitution & American attutide, both of which are dying.
To protect retards like you from themselves.
Your retarded if you think raw milk is better than processed milk in anyway.
I lived on a farm with cows and would rarely drink raw milk, shit is gross and you will get sick. Clean milk is literally an engineering miracle, and its gud m8
a lot of local farms will sell "shares" of a cow which allows you and others to own part of a cow and technically you are just drinking your own milk.
You probably could if you knew the farmer. But not that long ago there was farmer in southern Ontario who found a loop hole, and was selling "half" cows to people, meaning, people were buying shares on his cows, because if you own a cow you are allowed raw milk.
Anyway this didnt last long and I remember reading about how his farm got raided lol and the whole thing got shut down, and laws put up..
food safety obviously?
>I don't know what subsidies are please rape my face
Fuckin' A right. Fight the power.
Oh. Well that's queer. In Aus you can also buy direct from the farm (there's always debate about it), as it's going to be a lot safer that way. But you're taking your own risks with consumption.
You're probably the same type of fucktard who thinks fishing without proper licensing is a good idea too. Get off facebook for once you cuck.
Red is illegal, yellow is totally legal, everything else is legal with restrictions.
have fun shitting and vomiting everywhere with your raw milk, retard
>But you're taking your own risks with consumption.
Right. But that risk should be up to the consumer to decide, not the government.
more government = more control = more government = more immigrants = more control = more globalism = more government = more control = one party = 1984 = more immigrants = more government = more globalism
>$3.19 for a half gallon
Nah, I'de rather pay half that for a full gallon of cancer milk
Due to the nature of obtaining cow's milk it can involve a lot of pathogens humans do no want to consume, sometimes including feces getting into the production line. So the milk is pasteurized to kill off any bacteria which may linger in the milk ensuring something that could kill you now has absolutely no possible way to kill you via simple consumption.
Drinking raw milk is for morons and those with a death wise. I'd suggest you do so at your own peril. Personally I don't mind that it's made illegal. It's illegal for the same reason selling cake mix laced with cyanide is illegal, it's a product that could kill someone.
I honestly hope food regulation shit is expanded into energy drinks. That shit is lethal too.
>drinking unpasteurized cow piss
>still drinking the cow jew in the current year
OP is indeed an uneducated phaggot. Next you'll want access to AIDS infected nigger blood for your own transfusions. Cow milk is not even good for humans. Zoos don't even give it to their baby animals because it's fucking awful and there are better options (like goat's milk) that don't need to be pasteurized. Lurk more you uneducated twit.
Should. But that relies on an informed consumer, which many aren't. It's oft better to just block something to prevent the idiots weighing you down, just so the few who know what they're doing can enjoy it.
>linking me to fda's website
>muh government knows best for me
>i refuse to do my own research
LOL
True. I can agree with that.
Go kill yourself then if you dont like it.. It's YOUR choice to kill yourself afterall, it wont cause problems for others. Oh wait thats right we need to pay someone to clean your body up, therapy for your friends/family...
>Drink raw milk
>get sick
>no health insurance
>go to doctor
>vomit/shit/piss from raw milk
>cant pay medical bills
>now your countrymen have to compensate out of their own wallet and tax money
get cucked retard
>I envy the fact that in the states you can buy raw milk if you like, you are given that choice.
Ummm... No. This is highly illegal in most states, and they literally send SWAT teams to raid raw milk farms.
If we could just have a warning label on it, I'd be happy as fuck with that. That's reasonable. I still wouldn't drink it - but this shit where we start busting up farms and shooting people over it is just damned retarded.
What does have lurking to do with cow milk? I think you are the one who should lurk more before spouting bullshit like "phaggot".
>be a moron
>breed
>ruin more lives
>doesn't cause problems for others
Apparently they do, if you think any cow milk is really something you should be having.
>t. someone who enjoys raw milk from neighbourhood farms
It's sad, but it's almost at the point where we need to have licenses for things like that so that you know what you're doing, and it'd prevent the halfwits from poisoning themselves.
No it's not, see
>have to buy fishing licence from gubment to fish
>have to buy hunting licenses to hunt
>government regulates where you can live
>government regulates tools meant for protection
>government regulates food
Government serves a purpose and it's purpose isn't to but into the lives of people, no matter how much of a benefit it is for the people's well-being or not.
It's really telling just how much our country is run by a bunch of clowns when you can ban consumer goods and lift penalties for fucking dogs.
your life is ruined because you cant drink your milky milky? awwww poor little baby... do u wanna go to your safe zone now too?
Anyone who has been here for more than a month knows cow's milk is only popular because it was pushed on to people in the same way PHAGGOTS think the government banning "natural" milk is being pushed onto people, phaggot.
>not drinking a gallon of raw milk a day
Never going to make it.
i don't drink milk pussy. you could have checked my id before shitting up the board with your summer shitpost
>>no health insurance
>>>cant pay medical bills
What is free healthcare.
Also its amazing to me how many people are getting genuinely upset over this discussion.
Maybe it will make me sick, maybe it wont. My point was it should be MY choice, not my governments. If I want to "kill" myself, which is a huge exaggeration on your part, then fuck it, let me do it. I have done my research thoroughly, which is more than I can say for you. So I know that will not be the case.
Keep spewing memes tho, its cute.
Raw milk is dangerous, I remember some politicians who were advocating it drank some raw milk and all got sick, kek.
>If I want to "kill" myself, which is a huge exaggeration on your part, then fuck it, let me do it. I have done my research thoroughly
Bully for you. Those rules aren't for people like you.
no freedom in this socialist hell hole
It's likely just blatant corruption, liberal politicians making money doing it.
>hurr durr i'm such an oldfag
You are as bad as the newfags you're complaining about.
this is why you can't argue with conspiracy dipshits
it doesn't matter what you say to them, it always comes down to "WELL, ARE YOU JUST GONNA BELIEVE WHAT THEY TELL YOU? FUCKIN SHEEPLE."
> "In conclusion, given the scientific evidence, we do not recommend the consumption of raw milk. If raw milk sales became legal in Maryland, we would strongly recommend that a labeling system be implemented and that farm safety and hygienic practices be required. We would also recommend restricting pregnant women and children from drinking raw milk due to their increased susceptibility to microbial hazards."
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> "Raw milk failed to reduce lactose malabsorption or lactose intolerance symptoms compared with pasteurized milk among adults positive for lactose malabsorption. These results do not support widespread anecdotal claims that raw milk reduces the symptoms of lactose intolerance. "
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>"Pasteurization is the most effective method of enhancing the microbiological safety of milk. The consumption of milk that is not pasteurized increases the risk of contracting disease from a foodstuff that is otherwise very nutritious and healthy. Despite concerns to the contrary, pasteurization does not change the nutritional value of milk."
I... don't understand this thread.
You say you want to be able to drink unpasteurized milk. And here I am, trying to figure out why would anyone want to do that.
It's like: hey I want to buy a new car without ABS or airbag, I want the government to allow me to buy it, why can't I find such a car anywhere?
Some people...
9 dollars for 4l?
It's 3-4 dollars tops...
More people in the US have died from drinking pasturized milk than raw milk.
Reliable link to the source of this bullshit that you just pulled out of your ass, please?
raw milk doesn't keep 4 chit in a bag, u dumb ass leaf.
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>And here I am, trying to figure out why would anyone want to do that.
Tastes better, and providing that it's actually safe, it's better for you.
Not very good, because it's still the milk of a different animal.
sure buddy.
>fluoridation of water
>good
top kek
some people like pasteurizing their own milk. or they want to turn it into a yogurt or something...
There's this ideology that government is inherently evil, and that the ideal world would allow private industry to do whatever it sees fit.
Even if that involves selling contaminated milk to gullible rubes and endangering the public health
STFU dumbass that's good.
Nice source, Jewy McJewster
Lol this is why statists are cucks
You're going to need a source for that claim, and what's the ratio? If 99% of the people drink pausterized obviously more people will die from it.
We do not need people for who those rules are.
im not who you replied to, but I live in vancouver and thats about how much it is here (i know its lower in some places in ontario)
Sources indicate that 100% of people who've consumed hydrogen dioxide have died.
Could not agree more. But they make up the bulk of voters. Viva democracy, eh? Tyranny of the majority idiots.
> regulation protects biodiversity
> regulation ensures that homes and buildings are built safely
> regulation prevents muslim terrorists from buying weapons
> regulation prevents companies from selling contaminated food and spreading illness
>>>/Somalia/
Well, maybe fast shipping is a problem
Problem is those enzymes and beneficial bacteria are killed off when you pasteurize. This is the fucking 21st century, and we have ways to detect bad microbes before drinking it
It will fall down.
Like Rome
Or Mohenjo Daro
Or any civilization of past.
If humanity didn't consist in at least 75% of idiots we wouldn't need any of those regulations
Wow, two memes in one post. And I bet you don't know what either of those means since you used them incorrectly.
This is a lie. However, 100% of people who have died have consumed hydrogen dioxide.
cid.oxfordjournals.org
"Despite concerns to the contrary, pasteurization does not change the nutritional value of milk."
You are a fucking idiot.
If the government didn't regulate hunting there would be no fucking animal left you dumb fucking faggot. Not to mention that the regulation is DONE AT THE STATE LEVEL YOU FUCKING IMBECILE.
Jesus fucking christ die in a fire you short sighted retard.
rad trips, satan
yeah, if people were less fucking stupid they'd require less oversight
I just said it kills good bacteria, since pasteurization kills bad AND good bacteria. Are you fucking retarded?
That's not very sensationalist.
>It will fall down.
>Like Rome
>Or Mohenjo Daro
They weren't democracies. Democracy is able to keep shambling on like a zombie, ruining everything and infecting others, because people just want shoot it in the head.
>If humanity didn't consist in at least 75% of idiots we wouldn't need any of those regulations
Read Brave New World. We need idiots, but we shouldn't cater to them.
That's an alright safety regulation though.
Don't drink raw milk if you're buying it at a store, it's just stupidity.
>all the government regulations on raw milk
>subsidize pasteurized milk
>gee I'm a retard and don't know how big government work
>hunting inherently destroys biodiversity
Nice meme.
>regulation ensures that homes and buildings are built safely
No, builders and engineers ensure a building is secure.
>regulation prevents muslim terrorists from buying weapons
Again, nice meme since there is a total unregulated black market for weapons.
>regulation prevents companies from selling contaminated food and spreading illness
What is quality control to ensure people continue buying your product?
You would have to drink 400 glasses of fluoridated water a day to even approach the lower levels of toxicity for humans.
Fluoride treated water decreases dental caries in low income areas by up to 60% as comared to untreated.
Please, for the good of your fellow humans stop posting. Your ignorance is astounding.
It isn't very accurate either, because it should be dihydrogen oxide.
>You idiot, if the government didn't regulate foraging there would be no mushrooms left on the planet.
Sounds like it time for some common sense then.
But there are a growing number of dental clinics that refuse to use flouride. Saying that they are wrong?
no difference in nutritional value
also, this microbiome shit isn't as important as you think it is
Show me one study that shows unregulated hunting would not have a negative impact on biodiversity?
You honestly believe there are enough free range animals to support open hunting regulations with a nation of 300 million people?
Please kill yourself.
100% percent of all people who drink milk will eventually die.
>They weren't democracies. Democracy is able to keep shambling on like a zombie, ruining everything and infecting others, because people just want shoot it in the head
Tell that to my forefathers, because they actually managed to run down democracy.
And we don't need idiots, if we were wasting less resources on trivial bullshit, we could happily survive without idiots.
Raw cow's milk is extremely good for you. The reason there is a pasteurization warning in Canada is because a sick cow will pass its illness on to humans who drink the milk unpasteurized. Pasteurization is mandatory to stop industrially milked cows from passing on disease. Getting raw milk from a trusted farmer is perfectly fine and should be encouraged.
>because they actually managed to run down democracy.
Not really, Polandball.
>And we don't need idiots
We really do. Until we have robots performing every menial task. A society of alphas doesn't work.
Show me.
Because I just looked that up, and found nothing.
Something tells me 300 million people aren't suddenly going to take to the wilderness to shoot and kill their own food when they can still eat slaughtered livestock.
My point is the government isn't designed to decide WHO gets to hunt, when and where but obviously common sense should be ruled here.
Oh nope we were both wrong. I had to look it up.
Dihydrogen monoxide.
I thought it was 1 H, 2 O; not 2 H, 1 O
Not who you're responding to - but you sound painfully stupid in multiple of these.
>What is quality control to ensure people continue buying your product?
Without regulations, smaller business serving the poor could get away with having some of their customers get sick. Where else are they going to get their food? You're the cheap option. It's not like they can afford lawyers and without government intervention there's no real repercussion unless the majority of your customers get sick. You can gamble with five or ten lives.
Again, people are stupid. They would cut corners on buildings that they deem unnecessary because what's the chance mold will happen or a fire will break out?
There's a black market for everything. Still increases the risk/difficulty of acquiring those items, and anything that creates difficulty for our enemies in obtaining weapons is good.
>to stop industrially milked cows from passing on disease. Getting raw milk from a trusted farmer is perfectly fine
Anything to back that up except for feels?
I'll bet large, automated, farms are generally cleaner than small "local" farms.
>Not really, Polandball
You think so? Our dickheads implemented corpocracy before corporations were even created, that's being a hipster
>A society of alphas doesn't work.
Social intelligence doesn't always go together with logical one, and also I think that after idiots would darwin themselves out of face of earth, we would be still left with some people whose demands and ambition (or lack of) would allow them to work necessary jobs.
Did you niggas seriously not know what water is?
> muh free market will fix everything
> allowing unrestricted hunting won't do anything bad, look at the current state of endangered species in parts of Africa
> building codes are useless, look at the quality of buildings in places like Nepal
> look at how filled with gun-crime countries like Denmark are thanks to the black market
> I should have the right to be poisoned by companies, because after I die, other people might stop buying their products!
Probiotics in dairy survive into the gut. Not talking about stupid supplements.
fluoride-free-dentistry.com
That has to be a marketing scam.
>Again, people are stupid. They would cut corners on buildings that they deem unnecessary because what's the chance mold will happen or a fire will break out?
And why would they do that when their job depends on making a good building? What does the government do, inject high intelligence into these "retarded" engineers so they can make good buildings?
>There's a black market for everything. Still increases the risk/difficulty of acquiring those items, and anything that creates difficulty for our enemies in obtaining weapons is good.
Be definitions it's easier to get a gun illegally than through a legal avenue, especially if you're a criminal.
>Without regulations, smaller business serving the poor could get away with having some of their customers get sick. Where else are they going to get their food? You're the cheap option. It's not like they can afford lawyers and without government intervention there's no real repercussion unless the majority of your customers get sick. You can gamble with five or ten lives.
Again, explain to me how the government stops this. A business that sells contaminated food for profit isn't going to be running for very long.
>muh free market will fix everything
Muh gubment takes care of me and fixes everything :^)
>allowing unrestricted hunting won't do anything bad, look at the current state of endangered species in parts of Africa
Niggers and the sad reality of having 7 billions humans on the planet. Sorry PETA, animals aren't going to live on their own for much longer with us around, no matter how much government oversight you want.
>building codes are useless, look at the quality of buildings in places like Nepal
Curry niggers.
>look at how filled with gun-crime countries like Denmark are thanks to the black market
Not an argument.
>I should have the right to be poisoned by companies, because after I die, other people might stop buying their products!
Government doesn't stop this.