Has there ever been a time in recorded history in any country anywhere that women have been in the military (in combat roles)
Its so god damn unnatural and makes zero fucking sense... Mens and womens bodies are literally built for certain purposes and we are ignoring this.
good. they will be sex slaves of mujaahiden.
Japan had Onna Bushi before the Samurai class came into power. It was fine.
I could see women being Snipers or Covert Ninja style assassins. Quiet and far away. I wouldn't want them for front line combat.
People don't realise what kind of skill it takes to be a sniper.
Women can't handle it, there is almost nowhere you can put a woman on the battlefield.
Russian women in ww2, but Russians are a different story.
Women have historically only been drafted when a nation is on the brink of defeat and is getting desperate. It never works.
Sycthian women weren't allowed to marry, and reproduce until they killed an enemy. They would cut their breast off to aid in pulling a bowstring back.
That was a long time ago though, and steppe people didn't have any other choice but to fight like savages.
There were also arab horsewomen that the muzzies hunted down, and exterminated. Women make decent horse jockeys, but that's about it.
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I really don't mind, they're retarded and useless in combat but if I didn't have a supply of pussy out in the field I might have actually killed myself or went AWOL, they're good for that.
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they'd be more useful as portable morale boosters.
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>They would cut their breast off to aid in pulling a bowstring back.
That sounds like some grade a bullshit.
You would risk dying of blood loss and infection, i dont believe thst for one second.
Waste of resources if you as me.
I ain't saying women are useless, just that each gender has roles that they are more appropiate for.
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Sporadic use throughout history, mostly as a last ditch effort (Vietnam, Israel, Soviet Union in WWII, etc).
It has mixed results. There are certainly women who are more than capable of handling themselves, but for every one of those, there's likely a thousand that are completely useless or even detrimental to unit cohesion and espirit d'corps.
Basically, in these days when we have standing armies composed primarily of volunteers rather than conscripts, and conventional warfare is essentially dead, there is no good reason to introduce a liability into the military.
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yea sure until some one gets heated and kills a squad mate over petty relationship crap
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>running around with rifles
>making a point about how unnatural (and therefore bad, I assume?) war is
Just...
>that pic
fuggggg
Women should only be in combat if all the men are dead and there's no one left to fight for them
I'm googling it, and i think you're right. It was something i heard in a documentary. Looks like it was bullshit.
They definitely fought, and had to kill an enemy to marry. There were old women who never had kids because they never killed.
blame this on SJWs
they asked for equality
they get equality
its not supposed to make sense
>Snipers
>Quiet and far away
Mate, they're 2 km away from an outright battle zone or command centre by design.
Nobody sane is going to put a woman in a situation where she is the crucial factor in an entire operation, then strip out ALL support from her while putting her within jogging distance of the enemy (who WILL rape her if they get her).
>Soviet """Snipers"""
A sniper back in WW2 meant someone who could hit a target from a decent range semi reliably, that's why they had over 2,000 of the things.
Nowadays "sniper" means "blow someone's head off from 1.5 km away without fucking up once while also undernourished and extremely hot"
This. Frontline infantry might have high physical requirements, but not necessarily only upper body strength. They might have to train more, but it bet a lot women could meat physical requirements for most military jobs.
>Wow, because of this one cherrypicked wiki page surely all women are born pro snipers.
Just no, the reason there is an entire page about her is because she's the exception and not the rule.
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>getting excited about a woman covered head to toe in black
found the muslime.
Is that a story from the Greeks?
Greek historians aren't the most reliable
They have been used historically, the majority were for ceremonial duties or as the private bodyguards (see concubines) for leaders, or more rarely for home defense or, in the case of the Russians, when so many men and boys have died that there is no other option but to use them
They have never been a significant presence in any war or even any important battle that I've heard of
Albanian women during times of war.
>eans "blow someone's head off from 1.5 km away
Retard confirmed. You never aim for the head. It's a small target. You always go for middle of the torso. Go back to playing CoD.
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Reminds me of pic related.
You just know they'll be attractive if they take the balaclava off
It looks like the Greek translation for "ha-mazan"(Iranian for "warrior") meant "without breast." That's where that confusion came from.
Lady Trieu did bretty good but died in battle.
She was so spooky to the Chinks that they made a fuckton of stone and wooden dongs to keep her raging spirit away from their fortifications. She supposedly thought dicks were icky.
>not 720 no-scoping someone's head from 2km away
stay pleb
In Europe it was common for women and children to pull the wagons of supplies when a tribe went on a do or die war against the Romans etc, they would make wall with the wagons so the men couldn't try and retreat and if it all went tits up the women and children would join the fight too.
Oh my fucking god, we're not doing this shit again you fucking faggot. Sniper carry a shit ton of equipment, wait days on the same spot for their targets to shot up, piss and shit themself and crawl miles trhought swamp. It really fucking physically killing and only the most enduring can ever dream of being sniper.
It's not a fucking video game you fucking autistic cum guzzling twat, holy fucking shit do you even realize how fucking retarded you are?
Onna Bushi predating the real samurai? What the fucking is actually wrong with your fucking brain?
Holy shit I can't believe this shit you meeky Sup Forumsirgin fuck this is literally on a whole new level of faggotree.
Snipers are not fast and agile latex suit assassins, holy shit, please seriously consider killing yourself.
You are literally disgusting. I just don't know how to word my rage properly right now.
You're literally the worst.
yeah, cause she's a professional model taking photos. of course she's attractive under all that. it's her fucking job.
What does "combat roles" mean? Front line combat? Guard duty?
>small target
They deliberately allow for an undershot in terms of accuracy and aim for the head. If the bullet doesn't hit the head as intended it'll hit their chest.
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>but it bet a lot women could meat physical requirements for most military jobs.
Apparently not, the Marines still haven't found a woman that can pass the officers training and of the 200 hand picked women that the army tried to get ranger tabbed only 2 or 3 made it and there are a lot of unanswered questions about whether or not they actually earned graduation like all the men
>Source: My ass.
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I think all combat roles should be held by women. Fuck 'em. It's their turn to die with bullets burned into their chests in the name of our country.
Women would actually be pretty useful in the army. You could put them in roles that don't see frontline combat, like millitary police or artillery crewman, which would free up more able-bodied men for the front lines. Kinda like how the germans restructured the wermacht in 1944, where they replaced all non-combat roles with old geezers to free up more manpower.
Yeah, that's ridiculous. They should be at preparing the army food, nursing or cleaning bullet shells.
Ranger or SF are a lot higher bars than 11B.
The rest of it sounds equally unbelievable though
"PRIVATE MARY COME OVER HERE NOW, CARRY THAT SOLDIER!!!! IT BLEW HIS LEGS RIGHT THE FUCK OFF" -"but but i can't carry a 90kg man with 30kg equipment because i am a 5.8" 65 woman"
>get approached by female MP while shitfaced
>laugh and walk away
not true. some of the officers used to like sleeping with the female soldiers so they'd often just be left around the HQ.
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They didn't become rangers, they just got tabbed, basically anyone can
Also, from what I read several women passed the enlisted infantry marine requirements.. just not the two that went for officer training.
>Newsreel announcer: Young people from all over the globe are joining up to fight for the future.
>Soldier #1: I'm doing my part.
>Soldier #2: I'm doing my part.
>Soldier #3: I'm doing my part.
>Woman: I'm doing my part too. [other soldiers laugh]
>Newsreel announcer: They're doing their part. Are you? Join the Mobile Infantry and save the world. Service guarantees citizenship.
only 2 made it through Ranger School, after having personal nutritionists and trainers to get them ready. And instead of two fuck ups and you're out (like a normal student) they could recycle as much as they wanted. Also many students in that class have reported instructors "looking the other way" when the female candidates did something that would've had a male candidate thrown out. And that was just for Ranger school, a TRADOC course. It's only a matter of time before they try to force them through RASP or SFAS.
Sure, but what I'm saying is that the ranger requirements are much higher to pass than standard infantry ones.
I doubt they were used offensively, but they probably shot back when attacked.
They are absolute shit as weapons crews, they don't have the strength or endurance necessary to load or move shells and ammunition
It was a small boy, not a woman.... you have disgraced the movie
Sauce?
That was the joke.
They are pretty much escorts at that point then.
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Really the bare minimum standard for Rangers are not hard. 5 mile run in 40 minutes, 12 mile ruck in 3 hours, 90% on the Army's weak ass PT test, and 6 pull ups. If you're in the active infantry and can't do that.... well you have some work to do.
Mostly it's the day to do life that separates Rangers out from regular army 11B's.
>hijab
[laugh canadianly]
And there were only a few capable, out of all the army
Before the social experiment took place they hand selected all the women that could possibly make it and they couldn't find enough to fill out a fire team
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Vikings I guess. But that was a different time
Never happened, the shield maidens are a myth
>implying there aren't men around
If they really aren't: Who can carry more, a woman who is there, or a woman who is not?
Has there ever been a time in recorded history in any country anywhere where we've been so heavily reliant on straight up foreigners in the military?
The job of the military is to go crack said foreigners head in times of conflict.
Several more decades of "Up is down" political thinking are going to outright destroy this country.
Honestly its pretty much the same either way
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120lb grill
loading a 95 lb projectile into a cannon at a sustained rate of 2 per minute
seems like it will work
I dont remember where but i once read that the kill count of some of these soviet female snipers were far exaggerated and a tool to boost the morale of the male soldiers. Makes sense to me
You have some fucking nerve to declare what is real and what isn't, considering that the "sit for days to wait for a target" type of talk is complete fucking bullshit. Only a small percentile of certified snipers/marksmen, will EVER have some sort of mission like that. And it will only happen in some shady SOF/CIA paramilitary unit. Snipers don't run around on their own for days at a time assassinating people, okay?
On a scale of 0 to ten how much would you say tactical attractiveness is relevant to the job?
I would say a massive fucking 0
It's not a fucking video game where man are in power armor and women in stealth suit. Grow the fuck up.
I mean, if you're going to allow foreign nationals from not only outside to serve in the military, but from countries that we have an antagonistic and complex relationship with, why not just let the Russians run the CIA and the Chinese the FBI?
Weird pinko commie world I Live in.
just go with it lol it's 2016
I don't know. WWII was so large scale, it makes sense that plenty of people - including females - would eventually rack up a triple digit number of kills. And it's not like the women were wasting dudes in hand-to-hand combat; they were shooting from far away, often behind the safety of their infantry and armor.
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i'm sure ahmed and his friends will appreciate it though.
Romans were pretty much entirely reliant on allied "foederati" for their defense for the last 80 or so years of the West after Adrianople.
Thats a nice bunched up group of people out in the open, you've got there...
What's that famous Serbian woman who dressed up as a man to fight in ww1?
We're not ignoring this, women's bodies are going to be reasonably well suited to the 24 hour bukakke gang rape sessions they're going to be subjected to when they get captured after fleeing battle
yeah, and how'd that end for them?
Those hoop earrings are triggering me.
Ahmed and his friends will rape anything they capture regardless of whether or not it has a pussy. Hot chick or toothless Mexican dude are all getting reemed by Hajis.
Its pretty unreasonable when you look at well documented accounts of people who saw a lot of action
There was no shortage of propaganda on all sides of the war
They are stylishly tactical user. Just like the camo lipstick she use.
>It's not a fucking video game where man are in power armor and women in stealth suit. Grow the fuck up.
What the fuck does that have to do with your retard ass thinking that every sniper is some covert badass going behind enemy lines on solo missions to assassinate people? You know absolutely nothing about what snipers ACTUALLY do most of the time, and have it in your head that every person who's a sniper must be some special operations hardass, when in reality that's so fucking far from the case.
A
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LEAF
They were holding the highlands at the time and Ortega's Hinds were grounded due to a mind fuck operation by Bob Brown.
You're so upset at a sentence.