Is this t-shirt right?

Is this t-shirt right?

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Yes.

No, Depending on the Libertarian you ask they have wildly conflicting and unrealistic ideologys. I can respect the ones who are of the nationalist and support the constitution regarding the 1st and 2nd though.

no, but this one is.

>the world is black and white
raa raa raa

fagg0t

Statism is a mental illness.

nice straw man brah

a ha ha i get it. ha

not an argument, unfortunately.

what did I say that was statist?

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Tell me what you think isn't black and white and I'll tell you why you're wrong.

No, because that ignores that libertarians are like 10% of the vote, and that the other 90% are fighting with eachother more than libertarians.

Close
It's nationalist vs globalist
Authoritarians are eternal, regardless of whether they are good or not times will always come when we need to unite.
A time will never come when we need a globalist authoritarian however, because people should be lead by people like themselves.
Unless they are a conquered people, then get fucked faggot

>people should be lead by people like themselves
Or alternatively you can go suck a dick.

No. It's a cycle of authoritarianism and liberty, regardless of ideology.

When the right was in charge, they instituted authoritarian laws to force people to follow their morals. The left tried to fight this oppression by supporting liberty and freedom of speech.
When the left won this battle, they instituted authoritarian laws to force people to follow their morals. The right is now trying to fight this oppression by supporting liberty and freedom of speech.

I just hope we get another cycle of authoritarian right.

Russia already went through three cycles of this. The right wing tsars, the left wing communists and now the right wing Putin.

I don't suck dick. Stop projecting.

Sheep tend to suck dick senpai. Maybe try not being a sheep if you don't like being generalized ;)

pic related is the new battle ground for the 21st century

It's sure as hell a more logical way to divide things up.

It's not using Libertarian as in the party, just as an antonym to authoritarian.

Yes. Libertarians are plotting to take over the country to leave you alone.

NO! Libertarianism only works for people with an IQ > 120, people below have Problems understanding the results of their actions. 80% of people need leaders or they will kill each other and/or be stuck in stone age.

Let people fuck themselves over. None of your business.

Its 105% proven truth that namefags succ most cock

No ... global v national

Wrong vs Right

Why does everyone act like authoritarianism is bad?

No. The political spectrum is more complicated and nuanced than that, which is why typically we have the 4 directional political compass.

In addition to whether a person wants a larger or smaller government, it needs to be understood what that person thinks the function of government should be, regardless of the size it is.

No, it's your opinion, it's not any one else's, it's not right or left its yours. It's not any group opinion, it's your opinion. You don't belong to any group unless you chose to. You are free, unless you choose chains.

no, it's
jewish gommunists
vs
everyone else

Are you high bruh?

Because all men are born free by nature.

Not an argument.

>Let people fuck themselves over. None of your business.

It's a numbers game retard, the only reason there are breathing 1%er in the US is the massive police force.
Your gated communities and private police means shit if there is no distributed police outside of your safe zones!

Shut up commie - nobody gives a shit about your sense of jealousy and delusional entitlement complex.

The 4-directional compass only splits the authoritarian/libertarian position into social and economic elements.

The political spectrum is "more complicated" because retards exist who think they can be ideologically consistent by saying gays can marry but anyone making over $1M should pay 90% of their income in taxes, or that abortions should be illegal but the stock market shouldn't be regulated.

just fuck my borders up yo

Have you been watching his latest videos? He seems to be changing m8

>Shut up commie

If you are my age and own a thriving business you might understand how stupid 80% of the people are and what will happen if no Wall-mart exists in their neighborhood.
Enjoy your teenage edgelording! The only people who profit from Libertarianism are Jews who can go and hide in Israel.

in practical terms there are 3 crucial aspects of politics

tribalism/ethnocentrism vs. ethnomasichism

private property/capitalism vs. communal property/communism

individual liberty vs. authority

Everything else falls under those categories.

I don't give a shit how brainless you are. Fuck off and keep your hands to yourself cocksucker.

Globalism should be a barcode.
Globalists have no flag and despise Israel. Zionism is not globalism and the fact that you equate the too is testament to how even ostensibly right-wing nationalist politics is shaped by leftist memes.

maybe, but libertarianism can't exist without an preceding period of fascism and eugenics, in my opinion.

>there's People who unironically are against totalitarianism

>private property/capitalism vs. communal property/communism
>individual liberty vs. authority

Private Property and socialism works to, and if you don't have community property people will try to get your private property, and if there is no authority protecting your property rights then you will have no property right.

>I don't give a shit how brainless you are. Fuck off and keep your hands to yourself cocksucker.

Amazing argument fagot, how old are you? 12?

Fpbp

>Globalists have no flag and despise Israel.
The globalist flag is the flag of Israel newfag!
Globalism = tikkun Olam

Why do people believe freedom is bad? What is so good about having every aspect of your life owned and operated by a dystopian government full of corrupt people?

Because
>If you are my age and own a thriving business you might understand how stupid 80% of the people are and what will happen if no Wall-mart exists in their neighborhood
and
>The only people who profit from Libertarianism are Jews who can go and hide in Israel
are *TOTALLY* "arguments". Yeah bruh. Keep sucking that cock.

majority of people are stupid enough to be classified as fauna, they don't deserve autonomy.

I've never heard of a libertarian who didn't support the 1st and 2nd.

>operated by a dystopian government full of corrupt people?

Says the guy supporting the Libertarian party that is literally funded for the sole purpose of electing Hillary...

You don't deserve to breathe, yet here you are.

By definition left is Authoritarian and libertarian is far right so both mean the same thing.

I'm very hypocritical.

Control your edge levels, buddy.

>are *TOTALLY* "arguments".
yeah that 80% people are retards and need easy access to daily fundamentals is totally no argument...
Honestly, how old are you?

>Yeah bruh.
Only literal retards use "bruh"! Show some respect for the English language or go to your "bruhs" and speak ebonics

Nazism is a far-right ideology. Libertarianism falls to the center on a horizontal axis; socially liberal and fiscally conservative.

>yeah that 80% people are retards
Yeah? Demonstrate that.

left is economic authoritarianism and right is economic libertarianism so no it's not

People as a whole give a lot more money through charity then the government does with welfare. Before I looked up those statistics, I didn't think libertarianism could work because people were too inherently selfish, but that's not the case.

statistically it's at least 50% or more, if you consider anyone with iq under 100 to be retarded, and the fact that 100 is the mean iq of england, meaning that things like africa aren't factored into the concept of 50% of everyone being under the mean

Is "below 100 IQ" objectively retarded? Why not 101? 130? 64? 92.5?

> (You)
> >yeah that 80% people are retards
> Yeah? Demonstrate that.

Any arguments against the bell curve?
Everything below IQ 120 needs leadership.

>ethnomasocism

You mean cultural relativism? "Ethnomasochism" is a terribly biased term.

Below the average IQ of a developed nation should be considered retarded, yes.
Errors start to creep in the further away from mean you get, on both sides.
Admitted IQ isn't the best way to determine intellect, it's more of a test of raw logic if anything, and can be minmaxed if you know how, but it's the best system we have.

>Below the average IQ of a developed nation should be considered retarded
Why? What are "errors"?

>Nazism is far right
Bad meme. Nazism straddles right and left. Real Right Authoritarianism is stuff like the Gilded Age and 1800s England where children got arms chopped off in factories but no reimbursale. Libertarianism is still farther right than that.

It's not left vs. right

It's globalism vs. nationalism

>Why? What are "errors"?
IQ testing gets less and less accurate the higher or lower you go, as with almost any statistical thing.
Also being less than average means you're hurting net innovation.

>net innovation
What the fuck is that, exactly?

>if people who happen to be of Jewish heritage benefit from it then it's automatically bad

This meme has to end and soon.

I approve

The net scientific productivity of a group/nation/what have you.
Science is the only real thing.
The only thing that matters.
Militant technocratic platonism is the only path.

Do you know what 'net' even means? Having more or less 0's won't change the number of #'s >0.

>Science is the only real thing. The only thing that matters
You can't even properly demarcate "science". Scientism worshipers are truly the most brainless people out there.

>Jewish heritage benefit from it then it's automatically bad

no problem
1. Remove the Jewish privilege of enjoying white privilege while at the same time bashing whites and calling themselves minority victims
2. Take away their Jewish majority nation just like the Jews are doing it with nations

after these 2 steps Jews can be Judged the same as all other people

Sorry, brother Nathanael. This isn't one of those conspiracy theory bullshit conversations where you simply speak to a camera saying what other nuts have said.

Your hearts in the right place, as all globalism is evil, but Israel is empirically defined as a tiny little piece of land which is currently owned by its descendants. Fuck off back to Turkey if you don't like sovereign nations.

Oh, and just so you know: nationalism is the same thing as globalism, but confined to earth. A one world order is ideal if this one world order is governed by an upheld consitution, the same laws and doctrines which defined USA in its creation.

If you disagree then you are in fact a goyim.

left and right are not philosophies, they're a jew trick to make you think you're in control. Of course the shirt is right. Libertarianism and authoritarianism are two polar opposite philosophies. Left and right are largely the same because they have no philosophical basis, they go wherever the wind blows (which is most effective to control the goyim).

>You can't even properly demarcate "science"
>the demarcation problem invalidates all of science
kill yourself you worthless shit
After a little while under an authoritarian technocratic government with unlimited eminent domain, there would be no need for the average person, and it would be like your anarchic paradise.
That or genocide.

Left-Right and Authoritarian-Libertarian are the two most important dichotomies in modern politics. But it's neither one or the other. It's not even just those two. So no, the shirt is wrong.

>>Science is the only real thing. The only thing that matters

Science is based on models that are based on current scientific knowledge, thats not much "truer" than religion.
The only thing that matters is knowing that everybody has knowledge gaps and acting like you know the truth is a fallacy!

>Its not left vs right
>Its authoritarian vs libertarian
FTFY.

In America, the right supports freedom of association, free gun ownership, first amendment, freedom of business (to sell to whoever they wish, for whatever reason they wish).

The left supports the freedom to mutilate your prepubescent kids genitals, they support forced demographics in business (with no regard for merit), etc.

Its rare that you see either side actively campaign against things like NDAA, NSA spying, Patriot act, etc, anymore.

Not before you do, illiterate ignorant and uneducated scientism worshiper~
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demarcation_problem
plato.stanford.edu/entries/induction-problem/
plato.stanford.edu/entries/intentionality/
plato.stanford.edu/entries/qualia-knowledge/
Drown in retardation senpai!

>everybody has knowledge gaps and acting like you know the truth is a fallacy
Science is the process of discovery to me, not what has been discovered, or the "current truth", whatever that passing fantasy may be.
Therefore, when I say science is the only thing that matters, I mean that the acquisition of new knowledge comes above all else, including freedom, autonomy, and other worthless rights.

>posting meme tier philosophical arguments that can never truly be settled.

No. Left vs right is a matter of societal values.

Libertarian vs authoritarian pertains to the individual's length of chain attached to the post that is the government.

>meme tier
D E L U S I O N !

>. A one world order is ideal if this one world order is governed by an upheld consitution,

Who is responsible for enforcing this constitution?
How often will be voted for these people? Who is allowed to vote for these people?
Who pays for the global election campaign?
Who makes sure that the people who finance the campaign don't expect stuff in return?
Do you want me to go to prove that a global government is 200% corruptible?

They're philosophical arguments that depend many many many many things
They cannot be answered at this time, so there's no point to even discussing them.

If left/right is any different from authoritarian/libertarian, it's only because the people adopting those labels are retarded enough to think it makes sense to be economically authoritarian yet socially libertarian or vice versa.

Then there's no point in discussing anything at all, since what's at stake is logic and reason itself in these arguments. So you should have no problem whatsoever completely shutting your trap~

You can just ignore until you can answer them you know.
That's how it's supposed to work.

>You can just ignore until you can answer them you know
Sure. And I can likewise ignore *YOU* and your illogical dogmatic dribble~

You could, yes.
But then we're back where we started.
:^)

Establishing you as completely irrational and dogmatic? Yeah. That's pretty clear. Please keep worshiping "science", which you fail to even be able to define. It gives us all somebody to laugh at and be thankful we're us rather than you~

>You could, yes.
>But then we're back where we started.

Looks like we need an authoritarian to stop the intellectual circle jerk and actually get something done...

Or alternatively you can kill yourself ;)

>Or alternatively you can kill yourself ;)

Suicide isn't an authoritarian trait, sorry bro. I actually want the less intellectual blessed people to enjoy live while the intellectuals argue endlessly if meteorites should be exploited in space or shipped to earth

Nobody cares what you want. Just end it, retard-san~
The risk you might rape some women in your loveless and shit-gene'd desperation is far too high to be tolerated. The best thing you can do for the rest of humanity is bring yourself to a close.