"America would be the best at soccer if we took it seriously"

>"America would be the best at soccer if we took it seriously"
>Not even the best at baseball despite it being extremely popular and a historic sport in the country

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70% of Major League Baseball players were born in the United States of America.

Football (soccer) and baseball are the best team sports.

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> not even the best at baseball

but they are. Trout is unanimously regarded as the best, by a wide margin actually.

The best hispanic/carribean player of all time is Pujols probably and he's top 15 at best. Pedro has arguably the GOAT pitcher peak I guess.

70% of Major League Baseball players are likely not the best players of Major League Baseball

Japan, South Korea, Cuba, etc. All care about it more on a national level than the US.

I went to a Giants game in Tokyo back in june

The chants were fucking awesome, i didn't understand a word but still

But your OP was "not even the best" and thats incorrect.

I'm not OP. I'm saying that other countries care about national tournaments like the WBC more than the US.

no but being a mediocre player in the US would make you a star in any other country's league.

Do you tell what country is best at soccer by where the best player is from? No, it judged by NT record.

>luckswing
>sport

The players are literally overweight. I guess thats why its so popular in burgerstan.

we don't have a national baseball team. and no, the world baseball exhibition is not a real tournament.

What if we took the inverse and what if other countries tried as hard at basketball and Handegg as they do soccer, would we still be on top?

Lol

Of course we would be baka

We have players of all shapes and sizes. It still takes an incredible amount of skill to hit a 95+ mph ball as hard as a rock coming towards you. I bet you couldn't even hit 60 mph in the batting cages.

>We have players of all shapes and sizes.

exactly, so do e-sports

No, they're either skinnyfat or obese.

But you do

>Poser, Stanton, Arenado, McCutchen, Hosmer, etc

Yes, Trout, Kershaw and other were missing. But other teams were missing elite players too. DR was missing Colon and Cueto. Japan was missing a bunch of their elite players.

How is hitting a ball with a stick considered a sport tho? All you need is skill (luck). I guess by that logic you think golf is a sport too.

It's almost like all those elite players were missing because nobody gives a fuck about the world baseball exhibition or something.

Hitting a baseball in the MLB takes an unbelievable amount of skill worstugay. It's one of the most difficult feats in sport.

But we're the best at baseball. Just won the WBC and the overwhelming majority of MVPs and Cy Young winners over the past 20 years are American.

Nobody gave a fuck about rugby world cup when it started and now it's a huge success in rugby nations. A lot of elite players now say they regret not playing.

>America wouldn't btfo the rest of the planet if it tried at soccer

> Past 20 years

Quick question: do spics get to claim Arod in this scenario?

because no one gives a shit, it's an obvious attempt to shill baseball in central american countries.

>baseball is popular in america
Sure maybe 30 years ago. Besides there's far more great non-American baseball players than there are great American players these days. As for soccer, no one except beta males and soccer moms care about it. Not because we aren't good, but because we don't care. The only time it springs interest are when we face Mexico or it's a World Cup game.

I'm a Dominican and I wouldn't the traitor played for the US in a WBC.

Im not saying it doesnt. Im saying its not a sport. Playing chess at a grand master level or hitting a hole in one or getting a pentakill also require "an unbelievable amount of skill".

Who cares about Rugby? The MLB World Series is the real world championship and everyone knows it. That's where all the money is and that's where all the stakes are at. It's like saying somebody isn't a great boxer because they never won a gold medal at the Olympics.

>Don't care about baseball
>Don't care about soccer
>Blacks are the best at football
>Blacks are the best at basketball

What do white Americans care about?

you're right, once someone gets a hit in baseball both teams go home. literally nothing happens before or after that event.

>"America wouldn't be the best at soccer if we took it seriously"

A fatty jogs 5m and a guy thats been trimming his pubes for 2 hours out there throws the ball back. Wow. Sports.

Money

>Comparing club championships to NT championships
>Comparing amateur boxing to professional boxing

you guys ever heard of cricket?

tell me, what makes a good pitcher. I find it interesting that while superficially similar in some ways, in cricket the advantage is with the batsman, while in baseball it seems to be with the fielding side.

>>Comparing club championships to NT championships
There is no comparison. The MLB is where all the money and viewers are at. I'm sure most people have never even heard of the WBC. Why should anybody care?

Cricket rules are weird, why do matches last like 5 days

he jogs because he knows that he didn't hit it far enough to get past the world class arm in the outfield.

>How is hitting a ball with a stick considered a sport tho?

It's probably useless to explain it to you, but hitting is one of the most difficult skills in sports, and hitting major league pitching is arguably the most difficult (primary) skill in sports.

>Luck

Luck implies we all have an "equal" chance at success. Fun fact. The average bat speed of an MLB hitter is about 90-100mph. The average Joe's bat speed is about 30-40mph.

You only have a 120ms window to get the bat around to hit a 95ish mph fastball. From comparisons I've seen, the average Joe takes about 300ms to get a bat around.

And this is only the athleticism part of swinging. A good swing requires precise execution of mechanics. Any hiccup, and you won't see success. If a hitter is 7 milliseconds off either way, a foul ball is likely.

businessinsider.com/science-major-league-fastball-brain-reaction-time-2016-4

One of the hardest things to learn along with all of that is how to visualize the strikezone. Even MLB players have trouble with it. Then, you have to learn the tendencies of 100s of pitchers and how those tendencies relate to your strengths and weakness.

Miguel Cabrera, for instance, will remember what a pitcher threw him on a 2-1 count with a man on a base in a 2 out situation 7 years ago.

>Teammates say Cabrera has something that approximates a photographic memory when it comes to his swings. The story goes that he can remember several seasons’ worth of plate appearances in almost pitch-by-pitch detail.

There's nothing "lucky" about it. The Luckswing name is probably one of the stupider names for baseball I've seen.

This like saying the world champion is the winner of the Champions League and not the winner of the World Cup. It's a nonsensical comparison because their each the world champions in their respective areas.

how is kicking a large, slow, and soft ball a sport? all you need is a natural body part that's wired to your brain and is used everyday from birth lmao

>The Luckswing name is probably one of the stupider names for baseball I've seen.

This, at least boreball is a valid critique.

But people actually care about the World Cup. The WC finals are THE most viewed sporting event on planet Earth. Nobody cares about WBC. Nobody watches it. Why should anybody care about it?

it's funny how much we sound like the mexicans when we just keep saying "oh we dont even field our best players on the NT, literally our G team"

Baseball autists are worse than /cric/ autists.

Reminder that people are paid 20-30 million dollars to hit a ball 3 times out of 10.

And that's considered really good.
Shit aint easy.

Viewership is increasing by double digits every edition int the US and it's already a huge thing in every other baseball playing nation. It's never going to be on the scale of the World Cup because very few countries play baseball. The US is the only baseball country that doesn't watch it atm.

Does anyone actually unironicaly think we would be the best at Soccer if we took it seriously?

>Im saying its not a sport.

Why not?

The only physical attribute baseball doesn't challenge is stamina.

The average player speed in the MLB is 18.4 mph, which is as fast as Robben ran during his famous World Cup sprint. In fact, baseball players consistently reach higher sprint speeds in game than soccer players.

Average vertical leap of an MLB player is 28". Average NBA vertical? 28".

A pitcher generates about 1200 pounds of leg power, same as a soccer player when they kick a ball full power. MLB hitters generate 8000 pounds of power during a swing.

Sure, a few fatties who are exceptionally skilled as well as athletic (fat=/=unathletic) finds themselves in specialist positions, like DHs and relief pitchers, but fatties aren't the rule in baseball. Out of the league's top 200 players, you'll only find find one fatty (CC Sabathia).

the WBC was founded in 2005. we're not making excuses, we're just not participating because it means nothing.

>This, at least boreball is a valid critique.

Indeed. I'm not going to tell people what to like nor criticize them for their taste. If the pitcher/batter matchup bores you, you'll never like baseball. I like most sports, and baseball is simply a different experience than goal sports. I'm just as entertained watching Joey Votto draw a walk after 13 pitches that ends in a razor thin take of a ball a half-inch out of the strikezone as watching Lebron, Curry, Odell, etc, etc.

But I can understand why the former bores people. They want to see constant running and jumping. Fair enough.

So some day it'll be worth caring about. Neato.

How is that an argument? The T-Rex can't held properly the baseball bat yet still beat the MLB player.

It's gotta start somewhere. Baseball is an international sport, it needs and international competition that's credible. The US has a history of making excuses in international conference competition whenever there's a challenge desu.

T-Rex's are beasts. They have great natural bat paths, and due to their extraordinary vision, the ball just slows down for them.

it's not an international sport on the scale that warrants an international competition. we totally outweigh them at this point. this trend of american sports branching into other countries has been a relatively recent phenomenon fueled by paranoid commissioners and it will eventually pass. the world will never get over soccer so fuck 'em.

>Not even the best at baseball
We're the reigning WBC champs even though we sent a 3rd tier roster.

Is this really how Uruguayans see the world?

sprints in football isn't the same as sprints in baseball.

>best Basketball players are black
>Handegg is 70% black also
>best Baseball players are hispanic and like 22% of the demographics

How cucked can white americans be? You're literally worst than France.

The only reason we're not the best at soccer is because we don't care. Every sport/activity we care about we're the best at.

because it takes a long time to get 11 batsmen out and then you have two innings per side.

Oh shit, its the burger defense force special delicia ops

kys viado

what does viado mean? is that a bad word?

It means 'faggot.'

Nobody needs a defense force to protect against your """""""arguments"""""""""

And coincidentally (or not) every main Sport you are good at the rest of the world don't give a shit.
I have no idea how is your Baseball comparing to Japan and Spic countries, but considerer how many foreigners you have they must be at least good.
Only Lativia and maybe other Balkan country must really care about Basketball. Argentina won against you in Olympics even being their second or third sport and having not even near the same investment you have.
Nobody cares about Handegg.

no members of the usmnt are one the top 5 million athletes in this country

Americans don't care about any of that. Our apathy is unbeatable and yuropoors and spics don't understand how deep it runs.

Only sports that should be on Sup Forums are football, baseball, basketball, hockey, and golf.

I would believe that if you guys weren't so butthurt in every thread shit talking America.

>shit talk somebody
>hurr why you mad tho
Average Brazilian IQ is 87. It shows.

your girls sure love posh dick though. theyre all social climbers the minute they come here,

I don't know if it's just you or what but there's been a large amount of Brazilian shitposting on this board lately

>Spic countries
>says Brazil
Uh...

I wish I had a dumb accent for easy puss.

>Literally just won the WBC

Why is this thread even up

Isn't apathy lack of emotions, Sasuke?

Where did you get that I said spic offensively, retarded?

>better than japan at baseball
>better than argentina at basketball
>better than canada at hockey
>better than england and mexico in soccer

who can stop us

Apathy about other countries legitimate opinions of us. Mindlessly shitposting makes everybody mad.

Even Brazil fields players in every major sports league in burguerland and the only thing we care about is football.

Can you imagine if we actually cared about them? :^)

>huetards and yurofats obsessed with getting our attention
Yes, if you continually act like retards in American sports threads, obviously we're going to notice. Just try to contain your autism in your own filtered threads like the rest of your countrymen.

>better than japan at baseball
It's all about luck tho, is in the name, Luckswing.

>better than argentina at basketball
And you are proud of that? As I said before they don't have nothing near the investment you have, they would literally destroy your pace negros if they cared as much as they do for Football.

>better than canada at hockey
Nobody cares.

>better than england and mexico in Football
I'll give this to you.

this is not an athlete. by any stretch of the imagination. it is a man who specializes in hitting a ball, much like a golfer.

>>better than england and mexico in Football
>I'll give this to you.

fuck off cunt and baseball isnt just luck though it is intellectually inferior to cricket.

Is just bantz brother.

>Brazil fields players in every major sports league in burguerland

sounds like caring to me

I kinda care about Rugby, it's a nice town

Fat=/=unathletic. Fielder was clocked at 18 mph on the basepaths.

youtube.com/watch?v=j_YDMahLB_M

In his prime, Fielder ran a 6.8 60 yard dash, which translates into a 4.5 forty. Of course, you gain speed, but a safe estimate is around 4.7.

Cristiano Ronaldo ran a 25m dash under laboratory conditions in 3.61 seconds. You can give Ronaldo Usain Bolt 10m split times and his 40 yard prorates out to about 4.8 seconds.

Fielder was also a below average player.

>not even best at baseball
>won the WBC with our z team
Ok chap

We're the best at boxing though.

i will ride into your favela on horseback and kill every man whos not fit to work!

>tell me, what makes a good pitcher.

Velocity.

Movement. There's some pitchers who have blazing velocity but can't produce movement so they're easy to hit.

(For starting pitchers) Need to have shutdown 2nd, 3rd, and even 4th pitches, e.e. a great curveball, slider, changeup in addition to a moving fastball.

Ability to almost robotically deliver every pitch the exact same way. Hitters can pick up on body language cues, changing arm angles, changing arm speed, and the like.

Control. Most important. Every batter is different. Some batters punish low balls on the outer half of plate, some batters like the ball high and inside, and some, like Mike Trout, seem to have complete zone coverage. A pitcher needs to be able to hit those 3 inches boxes within the zone consistently. See pic. You leave a ball in the fourth row of boxes, Judge is making good contact. But if you can hit the strikezone just a inch below, his contact rate plummets.

Yeah, baseball is like an inversion of cricket.

God you couldn't be more retarded

Replace the best of nba/nfl with the soccer scrubs and tell me Us wouldn't take the cup almost every year