>ATTENTION! DON'T post Soundcloud, YouTube, or any other links where you are not anonymous (unless somebody asks you for it). That's considered self promotion and will result in bad feedback.
>RESOURCES:
Sound Design: >SeamlessR (in-depth music production and sound design tutorials, based on FL Studio) youtube.com/user/SeamlessR
>Syntorial (widely considered the best place to go to learn synthesis) syntorial.com/
>Mr. Bill (Ableton based, some of the best sound design tutorials on the planet. Aimed more towards IDM-type stuff. He also posts his music here) youtube.com/user/MrBillsTunes
I've the opportunity to get either an LX25+ or a GX49 for $50. Which one should I go for? I know for certain that the GX49 would be better for learning piano, but the LX25+ is chock-full of features that would be useful (such as the pads)
Have to decide within the next two hours. pls help!
Ryder Gray
does this video give you hope? Tutorial guy grew up poor with retarded friends and people passed out in their front yards in the hood as a kid and somehow made it in the industry.
>"I remember thinking, why do my friends look funny?"
I knew he was going to say FAS because I had the same realization in my teens t. outer reaches poorfag
Jaxon Diaz
god i hate mixing and eqing. such a pain in the ass i get sick of playing it back to tweak things constantly still not satisfied with the drum rolls but whatever
french house vibes that drop was carefully craved out of the carcass of all the good daft punk tracks
Leo Murphy
thank you
Sebastian Cox
can anyone recommend a good VST synth for 90s sync sounds?
Nathaniel Davis
Korg M1
Jordan Powell
Sorry, I mean like actual oscillator sync effect vst rather than a rompler with sync effect instruments on it.
Henry Bailey
uhe diva
Nathan Rodriguez
The olympic theme this year is incredible, I'm making a remix now i'll post when Im done
Jaxson Morris
That story. There is hope. Never give up.
James Myers
I mud a poo sounds agen agen agen
Alexander Butler
Well, there goes the thread
Noah Taylor
>I have a bunch already >need to buy hardware Dx
Hey look it's froge poster again
Josiah Miller
I like frogposter. He makes bad music and doesn't afraid of anything
Leo Cook
I got the LX25 and I kinda regret not getting a bigger one. Definitely start out with a bigger one, then if you have to move around a lot you can invest in a smaller one. (I'd honestly rec the MPK Mini MKII over the LX25+)
William Campbell
...Is that an Arby and the Chief reference?
Caleb Gutierrez
apparently but its more like an oldfag meme
Evan Mitchell
>reply to frogposter >get dubs
Joseph Taylor
Why did digitalqu33r have to ruin the show by reviving it after a solid ending :((((
And why does it seem like /prod/ dies on the weekend- no dedication :(
Samuel Butler
Where do people that are actually knowledgable discuss production? besides here. Reddit forums are essentially people promotion their guides
Angel Smith
>get bored with the guitar >listen to Surf's Up >want to learn how to play piano >listen to the Mars Volta >want to get better at guitar again
What should I do? I don't have any experience playing the piano but I'm also only a mediocre guitar player. I feel like I can't focus on learning both at the same time, so should I pick up the piano or try to get better at guitar?
Grayson Stewart
Are you fucking serious figure it out yourself. Nobody knows what would be more useful to you
If we advertised them than less knowledgeable producers will show up :^(
Also once you reach that point "discussion" loses its value and you're just answering other people's questions lol
Austin King
>secret club
Jace Howard
r/WeAreTheMusicMakers is probably the most decent production subreddit. The other subreddits that I know of are either trash or have no traffic. r/edmproduction is a fucking joke.
It's a shame forums like Gearslutz tend to be shitty for totally different reasons.
Carson Butler
If you're going to do this every day at least post it.
Daniel Hall
why is this all so difficult :-(
Jason Ortiz
>circle jerking "u can do it xD" >I made a song every mounth and this is what I learned! >frequent bad advice >check my tutorial on what is a compesssion also check out my SoundCloud :p >most decent
Sad. Tbh I've been checking there and /r/audioengineering dailyish for a couple years at least and I cant say watmm is ever helpful outside of a few samples and maybe for depression if it hits you a lot lol.
Ae tends to have a lot more discussion, but there is a clear split between people who actually work in the field and probably don't produce, and then the flip side who asks dumb/techsupport questions and gets corrected whenever they try to chime in.
Eh
Jacob Young
anybody know any good free stereo expander vsts?
Alexander King
>Also once you reach that point "discussion" loses its value and you're just answering other people's questions lol Unless you're the top worldwide guru, there's always something new to learn from other people who are better/specialized in different areas than those you're strong in, and can provide a different perspective on how to do things. For example, I might be the best EDM producer in the world and have nothing to learn from other EDM producers, but a conversation with an experienced rock producer might still teach me a lot, and vice versa. Or maybe I'm very good at everything but one guy is excellent at this one thing, and it can still be helpful for both to discuss our ways of doing stuff.
There's always some field (niche or not) that you don't know about, like for example one day you're schooling beginners on mastering, and the other you're being schooled about list processing in Max.
Ideally a good forum with experienced members would have people striving to learn from each other and expand their knowledge in all possible areas. Good luck doing it here though. Every time I've seen someone discuss new techniques or different ways of doing things they were treated like morons who wasted their time on pointless bullshit instead of doing things "the right way".
should I be worried about people stealing my shit if I post it here for advice
Elijah Moore
many thanks user!!
Josiah James
If someone here steals from you, they're likely not famous enough for it to matter (and you'd never even know). If you want you can upload it somewhere else like on YouTube (or just never delete the clyp.it file) so if someone famous actually decided to steal from you, you just tell everyone that it was your stuff and show them the proof. No different than someone stealing from your finished songs on SC really.
Cameron Cooper
true true you're right it'd be easy to prove it was me esp if it's performance based rather than sequenced so I shouldn't worry it's just I haven't seen it with music but I've seen people balantly steal youtube videos etc and I was warned that people sometimes go to open mic nights to steal songs
Cameron Watson
>Ideally a good forum with experienced members would have people striving to learn from each other and expand their knowledge in all possible areas. >Good luck doing it here though. Every time I've seen someone discuss new techniques or different ways of doing things they were treated like morons who wasted their time on pointless bullshit instead of doing things "the right way". This is because /prod/ is almost exclusively filled with beginners, morons, and overall shit producers. I've seen/had good music production discussion on Sup Forums and Sup Forums, but they were always in specific threads and never in /prod/ generals. Which means that the experienced people are here but never come inside the /prod/ general (because it would just be them teaching noobs and get shitposted).
If we had a music making board (for people who produce, compose, play instruments, etc.) there would be generals for beginners and feedback, so people who want actual discussion (even on niche topics) can have their own threads that the people knowledgeable in the right field would see and contribute to. Right now not only is /prod/ a shitshow that no one would want to go in, but they also last so little on the catalog (due to the fast rate of thread creation on Sup Forums) that if you ask something that's a bit specific, you only have a short window of time for it to be seen by someone who knows about it, before disappearing in the archive.
Sup Forums, with all the music listening threads, celebrity worship, waifuing, and shitposting, is just not the right place for music making discussion, which I believe is a very widespread interest considering all the people who dabble in one aspect or another of music making. Certainly more widespread than certain other interests that have their own super slow boards.
Nicholas Nelson
I'm not saying it won't happen, but you can't really worry about it too much. It's just part of putting yourself out there, so you think proactively and protect yourself by having proof in case it happens.
Lucas Wright
The synth that comes in at :19 si too quiet. The hi hat that happens at the end of the bar is too high, try transposing it or changing the sound, its sibiliant.
The track promise upbeatness and a continuation of the intro but doesn't deliver and falls flat with the sustaned chords when the drums hit.
It needs a main melody or point of interest probably a vocal line would do it.
Something too simple with the drums there needs to be a shika or chiku chiku or some shit you know what I mean, they're kind of boring. Try an modulating them slightly also look up how to do drum patterns on youtube.
You're all right, don't be too hard on yourself, there's a sustained period of pain with producing before you feel comfortablish
Xavier Mitchell
my dudes, i want to program some drums for my gay ass guitar songs but i am overwhelmed by the possibilities
are there like go-to drum VSTs or sample packs or do I just have to sort through all that's out there?
Juan Wright
>If we had a music making board We all need to start pestering Hiroshimoot constantly about this. The main argument I've seen against a /prod/ board is that there isn't enough interest, but there are other boards on Sup Forums that are slow as fuck but are kept around regardless.
Where's the best place to lobby for this? Do we create and keep a thread bumped about it on /qa/, or do we email Hiro directly?
Brody Lee
it would be a slow ass board look at the catalog, music making is probably like 10% of Sup Forums or less i feel like there are probably more relevant boards that need to be done, Sup Forums is mainly an anime website and has lately shifted towards incels and Sup Forumstards
Liam Brown
>it would be a slow ass board Right, but /3/ for example has threads on it that haven't had a reply in 2 weeks. Same with /gd/. /i/ has threads with the last reply being 3 weeks ago.
A /prod/ board wouldn't be any slower.
Evan Cox
actually this could be an argument, Sup Forums is too fast for musician threads and only a couple generals can survive (sometimes)
the problem is hiro is probably getting more requests to make either more anime boards or something like national socialist or men's rights boards right now considering the state of this website
Just get Ableton and use basic drum sounds, you can always edit them later on.
David Miller
it looks cool but i'm scared that it will be too """realistic""" like it's trying to be a drummer and take me straight to uncanny valley i could actually get a drummer for this but i want to take a shot at fingerdrumming on some pads and see what i can come up with
Aiden Wood
will do, thanks guys
Oliver Thomas
Can someone knowledgeable help me put a name to what makes these sounds:
Dunno where to go with this now. It's a bit short.
Jordan Fisher
>actually this could be an argument, Sup Forums is too fast for musician threads and only a couple generals can survive (sometimes) And it was. Here: >Right now not only is /prod/ a shitshow that no one would want to go in, but they also last so little on the catalog (due to the fast rate of thread creation on Sup Forums) that if you ask something that's a bit specific, you only have a short window of time for it to be seen by someone who knows about it, before disappearing in the archive.
Hudson Cruz
the funky oscillating thing is an electric organ with a leslie rotating spearker effect
the terminator thing is some pitched percussive sound or maybe a string sample with a lot of attack with a lot of reverb i guess, don't quote me on that one
Luke Moore
i'd love some pointers on how to fix the mix or master on this one
Terminator would be a low 'orchestra hit' on an old keyboard maybe roland
Samuel Bell
>The main argument I've seen against a /prod/ board is that there isn't enough interest When there's a music production themed thread on Sup Forums (but outside general threads) it's always full of people having actual discussion, and it almost always reaches bump limit. It only seems that there's little interest if you only look at /prod/ that most people into music making don't even visit.
The people are clearly on Sup Forums (all around the boards), and the interest is clearly there.
Dylan Nguyen
Thank you guys.
Aiden Garcia
Anybody use an MPD218? Wondering how it is. I'm looking for a good drum pad MIDI controller with some knobs, and this is the only thing I can find that looks like it's both inexpensive and not a piece of shit.
Really wish I had $800 for an Ableton Push 2...
Kevin Green
Is there a tool that you'd recommend for finding scales from a few chosen notes?
Nicholas Anderson
Is there any benefit to writing the music first rather than creating as you go along and build songs organically?
Dylan Clark
How do I find VSTs that I don't know about?
Christopher Miller
How do you stop asking easily googleable questions
David Cook
What for? Why spend money on VSTs you don't need?
Grayson Sanders
Don't advertise google, you shouldn't encourage people to use that site. Just say easily "searchable".
It helps mantaining the same mindset throughout the entire writing process (instead of switching back and forth between composing, sound designing, mixing, etc.) which helps making more cohesive music (since you'd compose it with the same "vision" for lack of a better word, instead of trying to frankenstein different parts together to make them fit).
Also if you compose everything with saw waves or some basic sound, you won't get tricked by sound design into thinking what you're composing is good.
But it all depends on the kind of music you make. Some genres like Dubstep (or any kind of music which is essentially just showing off your sound design) benefit from doing the opposite.
Ryan Miller
Thanks. Actually, I tried it before but it didn't seem to work (now it does).
I wish I could, but my gear is too shitty. Actually, when I first started using a DAW, I wanted to start an instrumental project a la Oranssi Pazuzu, but since I couldn't get decent results (and programming rock drums is lame), I moved to something else.
John Allen
Nobody really pays any attention to the drums, it's not going to really be noticeably fake unless your drum programming isn't very good.
I can never find a good lead synth or a good off beat bass. whenever I try to put the both together, they sound like ass! one of the sounds is always on top of the other. and don't even get me started on how the kick is either dominating the track or in the background! as you can tell, I'm a bit of a noob when it comes to this type of sound. I can make things like tech house and chill trap beats, but when it comes to trancey stuff like this, that sounds really big and opened, I'm fucking awful!
Liam Flores
Had a pretty long thread on B the other day about keyboards and picking what synths to buy. Some sort of music making board would be cool as heck, but I still don't think there is enough interest to justify making an entire board.
John Brown
Bass thing is okay, no idea what you're trying to get across with that high synth. It it following some sort of melody, or do you have it just making high pitched notes with out any sort of rhyme or reason?
Liam Wood
You're wrong. Both about the lack ofinterest, and the quality of that pathetic thread on Sup Forums. Also >B
Jace Hall
I do metal sometimes, I've posted some of it before. Mix is good, bass might be a tad muddy in my opinion. Maybe give it some highs for more definition?
Nolan Robinson
Talking gear with people other than the autists on reddit was fun though :(
Andrew Ramirez
Also wrong. You actually had no fun, remember?
Easton Hughes
I meant
Kayden Smith
What gear are you using that's "too shitty"?
I use a Focusrite Scarlett 2i2 and just plug the guitar/bass into that and use ampsims (mostly Bias) in the DAW (I use Reaper). For miking acoustic I just have a shitty condenser mic that I got bundled with the Scarlett. For drums I use Addictive Drums 2.
Thanks! Actually the bass has a lot of distortion going on in the mid/highs already but I might have done a bit too many cuts in the EQ to keep it under control. I find it really hard to find that balance between it not sounding flat/muddy and not sounding too harsh and stabbing through everything in the mix when it's playing anything other than the lowest string.
Juan Phillips
Getting the bass right is always the hardest part for me when I mix stuff, so I definitely get that. The music I play is almost exclusive dumb metal on the lowest string so I don't have to deal with too much though.
I do like the sound you have for the acoustic guitars though, mine always sounds like trash. What does the effect chain you have on them look like?
Dylan Gutierrez
I'm living abroad, so I can't carry many things around. I just have a cheap twanger, a boss me25, a steinberg DI, a usb keyboard and Ableton. I guess I can usually get a decent sound with that, but it just doesn't feel right. Programming drums is too complicated when it comes to metal songs and it obviously feels unnatural. Yet, I often think of how I could make it work.
Josiah Myers
didn't listen but you don't have to worry about bass sounding flat, no one cares about a bass tone as long as the note is heard
Lincoln Martin
Here's the chain I used. The compressor in the bottom right is there on each individual track (4 tracks) to level them out and tame peaks. That compressor is on max since I didn't record them very hot, it at most catches 7db reduction on peaks and is mostly between 0-3db. Then I just send the group to a reverb track and a delay track (I used same reverb/delay tracks for acoustics, lead guitar and synths).
Well as long as you can get your guitar DI into your DAW you should be set. Programming drums can seem pretty complicated at first but it gets easier. Just gotta get used to the piano roll. I'm no master at programming drums but if I listen to my programming from a couple years ago I really had no clue at all, so it's nice to feel you're improving. Unless I have a specific idea of how I want the drums to be I find it easiest to just start with programming a really basic beat to the riff you're going to play, record the riff over that beat, then adjust and add in extra stuff to the drum midi to make it sync better with what's being played.
David Perry
Tbh in metal having a good bass tone is 50% of the way to a good guitar tone
Nicholas Brown
Programming metal drums isn't unnatural, and as long as you have a daw and an interface you can make metal songs!
Drums can be kind of complicated though, one thing that really helped my drum programming was to try to program the drums that were on an actual cd. Really helped me figure out how a drummer plays and how they do fills or cymbal hits.
If you keep thinking about it, you should definitely give it a shot
Samuel Sanders
I was going for something else someone did on /prod/ a little while back. Like a playful tune.
Connor Reyes
This is also a great tip, I've done that a couple times and it really helps get a feel for how a drummer plays.
Anthony Martinez
Do you like 'and justice for all?
Elijah Miller
Alright, thanks for getting back to me! I'll take a look at it and play around with my own daw to see if I can get a better acoustic sound.
Definitely underrated tip here. Having a good bass tone helps beef up the guitars.
Nathan Miller
thinking about getting this, anyone has it? is it worth ?
Charles Rivera
I did 10 years ago when I first started listening to metal. Now, not so much.
