So is this album also about blatantly advocating for socialism and SJW horseshit jargon like Shaking the Habitual?

So is this album also about blatantly advocating for socialism and SJW horseshit jargon like Shaking the Habitual?

I'm not going to like this album if it's in the same vein, which I assume it is

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stick to country OP

Sorry for that comrade, I'll always submit to music about why socialism is great and why the patriarchy sucks

fuck off and enjoy the music you political cockrider

No?

Socialism is pretty fucking stupid, but remember that artists are rarely educated or good people, just enjoy it for what it is. Never care about a musician or actor or any other sort of artistic person's political opinions, they are not meaningful

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it doesn't know what it advocates. it's a complete mess. musically it doesn't hold a candle to STH, it's mostly insipid synthpop with a cool song here and there.

I agree with everything that is said there, however when you make politcal statements an unavoidable aspect of your music, it's impossible to take that context away to enjoy the music.

Take Godspeed, they are "anarcho-communist" I believe, and their music is directly influenced by that. However you can take the politics out of their music and have it be very enjoyable with however you want to understand the music. But Shaking the Habitual is impossible to take the context out of it, therefore I can't sympathize and enjoy the artist or their music

i'm going to her show in Oakland and planning to wear my "Make America Great Again" hat

what should i expect bros?

Her s/t from 2009 was one of the best albums of the year, what the hell happened?

Dude epic!
You win the internet

>Not listening to music with an apolitical mideset

Go back to r/The_Donald.

Why do all these Swedish feminists like getting tied up and pissed on and shit?

For real. The production on Plunge is just really fucking bad and the shitty lyrics don't help, either.

I also hate the visuals that accompanied the album. Just felt like really tryhard commentary on image in music and #metoo bullshit. I'll just pretend like I didn't waste time listening to it.

Not getting laid

the less politics, the better

Red Trails was pretty good but the rest seemed like rushed ideas put out to accompany some message

shaking the habitual is pretty easy to separate from the political context though, you can barely understand what she's singing about most of the time

imagine being such a cuck that you get triggered by the socialist boogie man. saged faggot

>I'll just say a bunch of random words that have nothing to do with each other, that'll do it

It was more the fact that she hadn't released fucking anything for almost a decade and then drops a steaming pile of garbage that was more focused on conveying a trite message with spooky visuals.

She should've just not used the Fever Ray name.

>not recognizing bait

Karl Marx was the original brocialist.

>artists are rarely good or educated people
citation needed.

socialism is actually good

>listening to music without listening/understanding the lyrics

continue being a complete retard

It can’t even be physically implemented until the economic and political conditions are right.

Left-accelerationism>socialism.

try this one on for size: Left-accelerationism=socialism

see almost every artist ever

I thought they were just plain communists?

Left accelerationism is theroretically anti-capitalist, but it supports capitalist development and exploitation for the greater good of humanity.

Imagine being this delusional about how the world really operates. Let me guess, you're 20 and think you have it all figured out? Hopefully you'll grow up one day and understand

capitalism is probably the single greatest thing man has yet to invent. It has brought more people out of poverty and more people to a higher quality of life than ever before

People who hate on capitalism are extremely misguided, usually uneducated or if they pursue any education it is primarily in artistic fields, rather than things that will teach them about the world such as science, history or economics so its really no surprice that people in music, or acting, or people who care about painting and shit no nothing of economics and are full of bad ideas when you leave art

Not an argument.

>capitalist development and exploitation for the greater good of humanity.
thats what capitalism is

What are you even talking about? The vast majority of good musicians don't know shit about economics or politics and are rather poorly educated

You should try accelerationiam. It’s like economic libertarianism, but with logic and reason.

>It has brought more people out of poverty and more people to a higher quality of life than ever before
for the first 2 centuries and a half, yeah

Who are you talking about? Country musicians? Punk rockers? Blues musicians? You’re not giving examples.

People complaining about capitalism is peak white people problems. Our lives are so good that we start whining about objectively good things and some simply trivial things, and end up longing for things that would make all of us worse. Economic leftists are straight up regressive in every sense of the term

You’ll probably be ignored and get some strange looks.

literally marx himself advocates this. socialism emerges from capitalism. left-acceleration is not a rupture from anything having to do with socialism

all of the above

capitalism is like a 90's pc. we needed it at one point. it has outlived it's usefulness

>It’s like economic libertarianism, but with logic and reason.
So how is it different then?

who we nigga

Most brands of leftist thought are humanist and moralistic, advocation for the immediate overthrow of capitalism and the dogmatic pursuit of egalitarian ideals. Accelerationism is reasonable, dialectical, and scientific.

This is a silly opinion. There is nothing that could reasonably replace capitalism. There are certainly a few flaws to capitalism, but nothing we have ever conceived is even close to being better, and most of the perceived flaws of the current economy are more a result of the government getting involved trying to "fix" other problems than problems with capitalism itself

Meh we've never been had real capitalism because that can't exist. Government is needed. If anything the US has had more corporate socialism than capitalism or regular socialism eg continuing to bail out financial institutions which only encourages them to be risky, subsidizing sports arenas for owners, paying companies obscene amount of money to invest

White western liberals

>Meh we've never been had real capitalism because that can't exist
In a very strict sense maybe, but most evidence suggests that the closer a government gets to allowing real economic freedom, the better off its people are

the young marx was humanist and moralistic. das kapital is not. it is a scientific analysis.

im black nigga

Has anybody actually read kapital besides Lenin?

that doesn't happen in the global peripheries. economic freedom means death squads there.

U high nigga? Pretty much every time the markets get massively deregulated, the economy crashes. Take for instance, the Great Depression.

More like exploitation of humanity

Instilling a support system of some kind that encourages economic mobility is allowing economic freedom. And there's data to back that up.

Would also say that growing the pie isn't necessarily everything if the all of the returns are being eaten up by a small slice.

except that isn't really true at all. There are literally zero examples of a country that embraced economic freedom and was hurt by it in the long run. Anywhere in the world when a leftist and therefore underdeveloped country moves toward freedom it benefits the people as a whole

Brainlets, both of you.

economic mobility is surely a good thing, capitalism has done a hell of a lot across the world to increase social mobility, before capitalism social mobility was basically not a thing at all, capitalism is the best tool for mobility we have yet to develop

>Would also say that growing the pie isn't necessarily everything if the all of the returns are being eaten up by a small slice.
Sure, but what is actually happening is that the rich are getting richer faster in some cases, but everyone is getting richer at the same time. The rich getting rich doesn't hurt you at all when you are also getting richer, even if the rich are getting richer faster than you

yes there are. they're all in latin america and africa. economic freedom means goodies for the west that has lots of socialized capital and corrupt warlords everywhere else. maybe turn cnn off for ten seconds i don't know

But everyone hasn't been getting richer, that's the point. Especially when you factor in pensions. Compare the amount of people in debt vs savings by age and income. It's not a good story.

The soviet block
Most of Latin America
Mexico
Great Briton (Thatcher era)
America (Great Depression)
Most of Africa
Haiti
Iraq
The Philippines
Indonesia
Pakistan

Pretty much any country not on the Marshal Plan

And let’s not forget the toll of colonialism and imperialism.

your posts develop nothing but a migrane. why defend the same outdated system? are you rich? what's your stake here?

>he can't into Shaking the Habitual
you can hardly even tell what they're saying, jesus you're a cuck

Nah, average wealth has been on an upward trend for many years now. There was an obvious downturn during 2008 however which I think is what you're probably referring to.
>Great Briton (Thatcher era)
This is the most brainlet example you can give, I can tell you know nothing of modern British history.

people with guns telling you what to do is the exact opposite of economic freedom. Remember that people ruling over you with force is leftist statism. Economic freedom means the government uses its force to protect your person and property, not threaten to shoot you if yoor village is the wrong ethnicity and shit

When people try and paint failed states as an example of economic freedom, it is super fucking silly, these are the very worst offenders when it comes to lack of economic freedom
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He probably thinks that socialism is synonymous with soviet planning. Soviet planning was actually formulated for agrarian backwaters to develop into industrial powers. It wasn’t meant to be applied to the modern western economy.

inflation is a thing user

The soviet block is certainly better off now with a little bit of freedom than they were under communism. If they had moved fully to classical liberalism they would obviously be much better, but there is no doubt they are better off than they were

>Economic freedom means the government uses its force to protect your person and property

>people with guns telling you what to do is the exact opposite of economic freedom

economic freedom is the exact opposite of economic freedom

>the toll of colonialism and imperialism.
Colonialism and imperialism were artifacts of pre-capitalist ideology. That was mercantilism,

>colonialism and imperialism.
Vastly improved infrastructure?

This post killed my brain cells. I’m now forced to reply with an ad-hominem:

t. brainlet.

>And let’s not forget the toll of colonialism and imperialism.
Is there any evidence that colonized places would be better off today had they not been colonized?

Uhhmmm...Wakanda sweety?

>why defend the same outdated system
Says the guy supporting leftism
I support capitalism because with it I don't have to be rich and have a better quality of life than almost anyone in the world ever had before the advent of capitalism. Even compared to people a few generations ago, random ass lower middle class people now lead better lives than the upper middle did a couple generations ago (and in less developed places this difference is even more dramatic)

This album is lame, but only partly cause of the lyrics. If you can't into music even when the lyrics talk about something you don't like, you're a total pleb. Bottom line.

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You know what I’m talking about. Neo-imperialism-globalization.

Reminder to leftists that the world is better than it has ever been
Quality of life is the highest ever
life expectancy is the highest ever
crime is lower than ever
there are fewer wars and fewer deaths from war than ever before
fewer people living in poverty than ever before
more social mobility than ever before
even the people living in poverty are better off than impoverished people of any other era

Sure we have some small problems to face in the world, but overall things have never been so good

>Neo-imperialism-globalization.
I want /leftypol/ shitposters to leave

I am obviously using rich in a more general sense of what you have, not literal US dollar amount

when's ever

um, what?

Wake up. Get out of your fantasy world and take a good look at the world around you. The cars on fire, and there’s no driver at the wheel. The government is corrupt, blah blah blah, and we’re trapped in the belly of this great machine, and the machine is bleeding to death.

remember that the people using force to tell you what to do are the government even if you do not consider them to be legitimate

>describing your own posting

the government using it's force to protect your person and property is people with guns telling you what to do

In other news, the sky is blue

Please explain to me how the former soviet countries that moved to the right are not better off now?
Also there is a very clear pattern that the former soviet countries that moved furthest toward economic freedom after the downfall of leftism (East germany, Romania, Poland, the Baltic states)are now doing way better than the ones that moved less dramatically (Belarus, Moldova, Russia and the Ukraine)

The stark difference between Moldova and Romania today is probably the best reminder of this

>Neo-imperialism-globalization.
Globalism is fine

literally every other era of human history

wtf I feel justified for hating minorities now

Okay, listen, you fucks

Fever Ray is from Sweden, a socialist country where "horseshit jargon" is the norm and inescapable. While she probably agrees with some of the prevailing ideology, it's more likely she sings about it because how could she not sing about it? If you think male musicians get a lot of shit from "SJWs" and "feminists" about what kind of content they produce, female musicians get it twice as bad because from the "SJW" perspective, "they should know better". If you think musicians in America get pressured over the content they produce if it's not politically correct, musicians in Sweden get it twice as bad. She has to show that she knows what she's talking about and that she has an opinion so people will shut the fuck up and leave her alone and miss her with their entry level opinions

what about when we were in the jungle

Um, not really. How is them protecting private property equatable to them telling you what you must do with your property or self?

Unless you think the government telling you not to murder other people is tyranny, but thats a silly way to describe the situation we are talking about

Read a fucking book you retarded fascist

The global memerap takeover of recent years is a sickening sight. It's going to get worse from here unless we take action.