Horror

I fucking hate horror movies. They suck, they have bad writing, characters and are just boring. But two nights ago i watched The Conjuring 1 and 2 with my room mate and i absolutely loved them, they are amazing. I haven't seen a lot of horror movies and none that were this great, except maybe The Shining. I also saw Insidious 1 and The Woman in Black last night, but they pale in comparison.

Are there other horror films that are at the same level as The Conjuring movies in terms of overall movie quality? I don't get scared at them at all, so i don't care about the spookyness, i care about the quality of the film.

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James Wan is uneven but the conjuring 1 & 2 are some of his best.

These movies aren't exactly similar but since they're my favorite horror and I also love james wan maybe the rec is worth something: Kill List (doesn't betray itself as a horror until sort of late in the movie, give it a chance) and Session 9.

For another horror from last year that wasn't directed by Wan but it does have his style was Lights Out.

So... you're just after good acting, direction and production value? If so, movies like Exorcist and Silence of the Lambs. Basically award-winners that get on those wanky "best of" lists.

Or were there certain genre-specific aspects of the films you liked? Horror is very personal and fans of the genre can have wildly different likes and dislikes.

>Or were there certain genre-specific aspects of the films you liked?
i loved the exorcism scene in the first movie, it was pretty intense and engaging - by that time you are heavily invested with that family. And i liked the second movie mainly because the demon used a dead guy's ghost and forced it to do shit..

But i think what i loved most about the movies were the idea that the characters involved were aware and believed in what was happening, they weren't in disbelief about ghosts and demons - the documentary-like part is nice. The protagonist couple is also really good and when this series ends it will probably be related to their daughter. The movies also have great camera work, editing and sound.

So basically
>just give me the wine glass without the wine
What a boring person you are

will check all of those out, thanks

i've seen Silence of the Lambs of course, no way i would put that in the horror genre though.

I just asked for good horror movie recommendations since these 2 raised the bar to the top for me, and i haven't seen any other that are as good. What's the matter with you?

>I fucking hate horror movies. They suck, they have bad writing, characters and are just boring.

Agreed.

>But two nights ago i watched The Conjuring 1 and 2 with my room mate and i absolutely loved them, they are amazing.

OK, I'm basically with you that they were above average...

>I haven't seen a lot of horror movies and none that were this great, except maybe The Shining.

The Shining is certainly better than 99.99% of horror movies.

>I also saw Insidious 1 and The Woman in Black last night, but they pale in comparison.Are there other horror films that are at the same level as The Conjuring movies in terms of overall movie quality? I don't get scared at them at all, so i don't care about the spookyness, i care about the quality of the film.

If your concern is cinematic quality, then watch "The Witch". It is not your standard formulaic "horror movie", but it's definitely a masterpiece within the thriller genre, at least.

i have seen that, just before starting The Conjuring - the one with the amish family. It was pretty good - the child actors did a really nice job.

Drag Me To Hell is sort of similar

James Wan has come out and said he literally made the Conjuring as safe and easy to watch as possible because everyone trashed Insidious.

So if that's your favorite horror then you're a homosexual.

eat a dick, I like both but the conjuring shits on insidious

even if he said that, the conjuring is way better than insidious. Not even joking, Insidious is quite bland and the only thing it has going on are the jump scares. The lucid dreaming idea is really good and has a lot of potential, but poorly used in the movie.

Oh and i went into these movies with 0 knowledge about them, or the director and by the end i loved the conjuring while considering insidious poor. So my thoughts on the movies are purely based on the movies, and not influenced by who directed it and who said whatever the fuck about them. I just instinctively like the conjuring more

Asking for good horror movies is basically asking for two kind of horror movies:
1. the academy awards winning cult films such as those mentioned by , The Thing by Carpenter or The Fly by Cronenberg, etc.
2. the lost, low budget gems that time forgot that you'll likely find in a bargain bin like The Descent, Pumpkinhead, Kairo (The Pulse), Tetsuo and a few other Japanese horror films

Pretty much everything else is trash. As a "horror fan" (I hate to refer to myself as such) I can easily tell you and most would agree with me that 80-90% of all horror movies are trash.

I myself am a big fan of body horror/gore films like Event Horizon, Hellraiser, etc.
I'm not too fond of "psychological" horror films.

As for The Conjuring, they're well made with good production value and decent acting but they're just two huge clichés stitched together to make a couple of movies. If you find jumpscares and ghosts annoying, you wont enjoy them.

Cheers.

PS: watch The Babadook if you want a great horror film made in recent years.

How is Conjuring 2?

6/10. i prefer the first one. i'm like OP in the sense that i hate horror but i really liked the first conjuring. probably because it was entertaining and it didn't have a downer of an ending

Unbelievable. I love horror films but The Conjuring represents the overrated trash that's been pumped out this last decade.

There are no characters. The climax is a joke. The twist is a joke. There's maybe a total of 3 good scenes combined. It's the safest pile of garbage.

And yes, I think It Follows and The Witch are hundreds of times better.

>And yes, I think It Follows and The Witch are hundreds of times better.

Both suck dicks, expecially It Follows.

Trying to make an original film doesn't necessary means it's going to be great.

Probably it's not even that bad per se, but all the shilling it got made it unbelievably shitty to my eyes.

I guess that's what happens when you hail a mediocre horror flick with not too subtle STDs allegories as a revolutionary horror "kino".

True Kino
>The VVitch

Great Horror
>The Wailing
>1st Friday the 13th

Decent Horror that's worth watching
>Insidious
>Blair Witch Project
>1st Nightmare on Elm Street
>1st Night of the Living Dead

Horror Flicks
>Everything not listed here

Prove me wrong, Sup Forums. Protip: You can't

>True Kino
>>The VVitch
stopped reading there

The Conjuring movies are great. I kept watching the second movie, it was that good

The Babadook was unwatchable because those characters were annoying as fuck and were excruciating to watch.

Terrible. But then again the first one is only about a 5/10.

>The Babadook was unwatchable because those characters were annoying as fuck and were excruciating to watch.
That's the point. A broken mother and an autistic kid are not likeable people, they're ugly, annoying, in short, realistic.
I don't even consider it horror, more like drama.
THAT is a movie with allegories done right, not It Follows.

VVitch sucks.
>The puritans were right!
Fuck off with that shit.

I did watch it to the end and it did have some good spooks, but it was a fucking slog. I would not wish it on anyone.

People acting realistically have limits to being completely unrelatable. Those characters suffered from really poor direction and writing. It was good acting but insofar as wanting the Babadook to completely get them.

>Those characters suffered from really poor direction and writing.
How so? I understand if you found them really insufferable (I personally couldn't stand the kid sperging out every 5 minutes), but I don't see how their characters were poorly written or the actors poorly directed.

Can we all agree that last year was pretty damn great for horror kino?

>The VVitch
>The Wailing
>The Conjuring 2
>Don't Breathe
>Green Room

It Follows was wasted on you.

>STD allegory
That is such a miniscule part of the film. They could have passed it on with a fucking high-five and it still would've been a great film.

>hates horror with bad writing
>loves the conjuring
How to spot a poseur 101.

well this thread has shown me that the horror genre is dividing as fuck. But i've taken a lot of recommendations from you all so thanks, will try them out

The Witch was incredible. I loved it for the atmosphere and production.

The Wailing was average. Not a great film and seems to have become a meme horror on this board.

Don't Breathe is not a horror and neither is Green Room.

Anybody that claims Session 9 is a great horror is also memeing because it is truly awful.

The Descent is one of the greatest horrors ever made. The Thing is not a horror, it is a Sci-Fi film that plebs think is a horror.

>The Thing is not a horror, it is a Sci-Fi film that plebs think is a horror.
>t. embryo

Fuck off with your superficial genre autism you goddamn turbopleb.

Sup Forums is so confusing. First it loved the Conjuring movies, then it hated them. Now it apparently loves them again.

the conjuring just borrowed all the good scenes from other films. fuck it even has the same house layout as most horror flicks.
>stairs to upstairs right in front of the entrance
>basement entrance underneath staircase
>kitchen towards the back entrance
the only thing that waas spooky to me was the hand clapping through the dresser

I think it says a lot about you that you found It Follows scary.

The swimming pool scene was especially stupid.

Just because it contains a creature does not a horror make.

It is important to be clear about a film's genre. Do you consider The Body Snatchers a horror?

Sup Forums is as fickle as a teenager. It gets carried away by the latest trends and then remember that it is meant to be cool and backtracks with memes.

The Witch is a weird film to me.
I loved it, but was totally disgusted by it. I can't recommend it without feeling a bit guilty, and even then o ly to horror fans. Such a great movie, screwed me over for a few weeks.

Conjouring 2 is fucking shit, watch The Enfield Haunting tv series instead.

Conjuring 1 was pretty good
Conjuring 2 was crap
Neither rises to a level beyond disposable entertainment

James Wan is for sure a skilled filmmaker and there's a lot to admire about his work. But audiences seeking narrative novelty will naturally get angry at all the praise he's getting, because the films work with solid conventions.

I'm sorry sperg but art does not work that way.

The swimming pool scene was hilarious but not because of the filmmakers' incompetence.

So you have the most boring taste in horror movies imaginable?

Woah. It's almost as if Sup Forums was several people or something.

I thought the conjuring was crap desu.

Only good horror movies from the past few years are It Follows, The Witch and Lights Out

Troll detected.

>It Follows
>good horror

>Only good horror movies from the past few years are It Follows, The Witch and Lights Out
Tweens get the fuck out or at least have the decency to stop opining on things.

This. You can watch the Conjuring movies with your grandparents.

t. Ahmed

>The Thing
>sci fi
citation needed

>The Thing
>not horror

You could not be more underaged if you tried

Anyway OP I personally recommend Shutter, the original Vietnamese version. It's such a masterful work of suspense amd creepiness. Everything about it gets under your skin in a way that's hard to describe, to this day it still gives me shivers. And at that it's only a simple ghost movie

Horror movies are generally speaking chick flicks. Just try going to one alone during the weekday, chances there will be several girls there alone as well. They'll probably be into movies in general with a specific interest in horror.

Its a pretty neat way to meet girls and you can be a total autist about films because chances are they are also pretty autistic about films.

Just like Alien, The Thing falls into a category of Horror and Science Fiction. People can say it is one more than the other, or both. I see both Alien and The Thing as a horror in a sci-fi setting. It depends on what a person takes from the movie I guess.

I first watched The Thing in 1992. I have seen it many, many times. It is my second favourite Sci-Fi film after Alien.

What in the literal fuck is the fictional science in The Thing?
Also, Alien taking place on a spaceship is not the focus of its narrative.

>What in the literal fuck is the fictional science in The Thing?
Erm, maybe the shape-shifting extra terrestrial being?

A movie about an alien ship landing on earth and unleashing a parasite that takes the form of and assimilates to whatever it contacts within a matrer of minutes isn't science fiction?

I don't know about you but I don't know of any animals on earth that are able to almost perfectly mimic another organism down to the celluar level.

HOUSE (1977)

>extraterrestrials are a science
>the alien ship is integral to the narrative

>not house ('86)
ok

>biology isn't a science

The study of extraterrestrial material is a science. You are clearly quite dim.

>Dracula is now science fiction

If the ships weren't in either movie, we wouldn't have a story you goober.

Just to push my point further, I would consider Back to the Future III a science fiction movie in a western setting.

t. Fox Mulder

>King Kong is sci-fi

Are you the guy writing posts about "plot holes" for nearly every movie on imdb?

No idea ehat you are talking about. I just wanted to discuss the genres of those movies. It is ultimately a pointless topic. Genres are there to help categorize and organize movies but don't add anything to the movie itself.

Horror is a joke genre, if you actually get scared watching a movie you're mentally a child.

If Dracula/King Kong movies took the time to explore how their biology is unique or what mechanism they use to alter their form I'd consider it sci-fi. But for the most part most iterations just chalk them up to being spooky scary monsters without really giving any kind of explanation. It might as well be magic.

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>he watches horror to "get scared"

>he watches porn to get aroused

conjuring movies are laughable
they rely on jump scares and camp trash
the second one is a full blown comedy at points
i really dont like you
you have appalling taste

>not watching porn for the absurdist writing

WARNING
THIS IS A REAL SCENE IN THE CONJURING 2
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WARNING

its the school holidays so all the teenyboppers are on here sucking the dick of a safe and stupid horror franchise

The only ones that actually get scared watching horror are women and children.

Men watch it because seeing people get killed is kinda fun and some horror movies have interesting/mysterious plots i.e. "who is the killer?" "what the fuck is that thing?" etc.

forgot webm

The Witch
The Autopsy of Jane Doe