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>General Ben Hodges, the commander of US ground forces in Europe, warned in a news report on Wednesday that NATO would currently be unable to protect the Baltics against a Russian attack, let alone Western Europe.
>"Russia could take over the European continent faster than we would be able to defend it," Hodges was quoted as saying in a German-language article by news weekly Die Zeit.
Jesus, why is NATO so weak?
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Yes, they could.
But it cant hold it so what is the point.
>Russia could take over the European continent faster than we would be able to defend it
I would welcome this. Fuck the West and what it stands for
Why is there an arrow point towards black sea? Is that a country now?
>There are *still* idiots who fall for the "Russia gon' invade" meme
They vote.
They breed.
Russia's only available threat anymore is the gigantic pile of nukes they have, and what could happen if said nukes fell into the hands of 3rd party organisations.
They don't need to hold it. They can just kill Estonia and NATO would be Oh Jeez Oh man oh Boy muh values and then all of Western security alliances will be moot.
>draw random arrows
>"""invasion""" """"""""plan"""""""
they're the same people who fall for the "china is a legitimate threat" meme
Enjoy French and Brits nukes
Because Europe refuses to pull its own weight.
>Russia 'invades' Europe
>UK and France nuke Russia
>Russia nukes them back
>world ends
Yep Russia is totally going to invade and destroy literally everyone and everything.
>Jesus, why is NATO so weak?
Jesus can't answer you but the reason NATO is so weak is because it's an organization run by and for kikes and anything done by kikes is inherently weak
They are though, especially if they team up with Russia.
Long range ballistic missiles will fuck our shit up.
This
There's no point for Russia to invade western Europe. Putin only care about russian speaking people
It's just america wanting to start another world war because their economy is shit
Good, please do.
I will make the soldiers some Borscht.
OMFG it's Justin Trudeau.
meme magic is real
Nukes are not the endgame, although they are very damaging.
The end of the world bullshit is propaganda. To nuke my city off the map would take some 11 nukes including the radiation spread.
There are currently 4.500 deliverable nukes in the USA and Russia.
It is not enough to "wipe off" even either of those countries.
So don't piss off Russia. Putin said he doesn't want Europe or a fight with the US
Because the USA is the only NATO country with a military
Nigger you have no clue what Russia is actually doing.
The Crimea annexation and Ukraine invasion were aggressively denied ever since they started the military buildup and exercises behind the border all the way and even after they had Russian military all over the place. After they're done with their plans all you get is a simple "proofs?" and a condescending smirk.
To deny their plans is to either be a shill or plain retarded. The reason Putin acts the way he acts is because there are too many naive idiots who allow him to.
Now you may say "Who gives a fuck about those countries anyway?" This is what you should say from the beginning instead of saying Russia is good boi who dindu nuffin.
>1946 + 70 years
>idiots still haven't figured out how modern warfare works
We have second strike capability. Their ballistic missiles will not fuck our shit up.
One nuke takes out all communications, electricity and contaminates the water supply. It's more than enough to take your ass into the stone age.
france has more budget than russia
>Russia invades Europe
>Kicks the shit out of Turkey and retakes Constantinople in the process
>Sets up border controls
Explain to me why this is bad. We are all ready being invaded anyway so who the fuck cares? I literally couldn't care less if the slavs invaded, i rather have a pro slav puppet government in Stockholm then the pro globalist cuck government that is currently in power. As long as NATO doesn't respond with nukes i am fine with it.
Not that it will happen anyway.
You are IN the west....
you do realise this right??
Nukes would hit power, food, fuel, and industry. The world economy would collapse completely. Hundreds of millions will starve and freeze to death.
It's very much the end of the world, the civilized world at least.
It would be enough to to destroy infrastucture and wipe out large portions of critical working population. Most deaths from a strategic exchange would occur from untreated injuries, starvation, or illness from sudden loss of access to clean water.
>5 million soldier in NATO members
>Biggest nuclear arsenal that works, unlike Russia which is smaller, and like 60% of it is from the early Cold War era
>Russia putting troops into Russian territories where people speak russian
I see zero problem
The joke during the Cold War was that the European armed forces were speed bumps until a real military could arrive. Not much has changed since then.
>it's another Russia is about to take over the world episode
It's just an excuse for the US to build a bunch of military bases there and put a bunch of troops there.
Those countries were Russian to begin with and Putin already publicly submitted to the USA as the dominant world superpower. He does not want war, stop trying to demonize him.
He won't conquer much but even if he did, it would be better than turkroaches or Obama supported ISIS
and french and our goverments spend most of it to pay GibMehDatz to subhuman ... that works well for us
Would our new overlord putin remove kebab, or just let it stay?
>Nukes are not the endgame, although they are very damaging.
While its true that nukes won't wipe out humanity they will certainly fuck everything up and send up back to the middle ages. No electricity, no running water, no internet and then add to that all the radiation from all the nukes and from the nuclear power plants that will be BTFO.
It would suck extremely fucking hard and 90% of all people would either died or hope they would die.
Belgium has more budget than russia.
They just need to raze it to the ground then sell it to China
It would pretty much be the endgame in this case.
No side will keep fighting when they lost their economy, industry and major cities.
Europe and Russia would starve.
The global economy would be completely destroyed.
Actually it's the American arsenal that is entirely from the Cold War
Actually, they already have. Russia reportedly thinks its tactical nukes are now better than both ours and NATO’s. NATO member countries have only 260 older tactical weapons. Sited in Germany, Italy, Belgium, the Netherlands and Turkey, the U.S. has 200 nuclear bombs with an overall capacity of 18 megatons. France has 60 atomic bombs.
As discussed in a report outlined in PRAVDA, Russia has 5,000 nuclear weapons of different tactical classes including Iskander warheads and torpedo, aerial and artillery warheads, all right next to Europe.
The US has 300 tactical B-61 bombs on its own territory, but this does not touch the imbalance. The United States cannot improve this situation as we have destroyed many of our Cold War tactical nuclear missiles, land-based missiles and sea-based Tomahawk cruise missiles. And we pinned ourselves with our own treaties. The recent START 3 treaty was overwhelmingly favorable to Russia.
Russia has developed long-range cruise missiles of a new generation that will soon be deployed on submarines of the Black Sea Fleet and missile ships of the Caspian Flotilla.
The U.S. State Department admitted as much in a report published at the beginning of September, stating that Russia has passed us in nuclear weapons capability for the first time in 40 years.
Letting our nuclear arsenal fall into disrepair is one thing (Washington Post), but allowing Russia to build a new strategic nuclear weapons force more advanced than ours is another thing altogether. And they even have a new generation of missiles.
So Russia does think it has the upper hand. And they might, if Putin and the hard-liners are willing to use force as much as they seem lately.
Puitin please~
yes and I hate what it has become
>Putin wants Russian territories
What a shock. He's not going to invade Western Europe. I'd sooner expect him to invade the ME
People really overestimate the power of nukes. Even if every country in the world launched all their nukes, about 90% of the worldwide population would survive and there won't be such a thing as "nuclear winter". It's lefties propaganda
UK is in NATO and they have around 280 alone.
Yeah thats the point
This jewish controlled oligarchy from hell is worse than death
>France spends its military budget on stopping snackbars from blowing themselves up in Paris
Fify
>muh troop gap
Lemme take one guess at the proposed solution...
People keep falling for this shit we deserve nuked.
Ukraine was a different case. Russia didn't start that, the west did. Before the Ukrainian crisis, it was firmly in the Russian sphere of influence with a pro-Russian president.
It wasn't until the west started backing "protesters" who later staged a coup and took power, and shifted the country into the west's sphere of influence, that Russia started damage control by wresting control of Ukrainian territories with economic ties to Russia.
>Russia could easily invade Europe
DO IT THEN, FAGGOTS.
Nukes destroy coms through EMP if they are detonated far above the target, and then, they are not damaging as a nuke.
Still, a war between the USA and Russia would not mean the death of countries such as Brazil, and even not necessarily the Netherlands.
Yes, the economy would suffer a lot.
Yes, there may be a lack of resources for us
Yes, there may be a lack of food for you
But it is not "The End". It is simply unprofitable.
And...Why?
Russia taking over Europe would be fucking Ideal.
>Russia *could* overrun Europe
They should probably be more concerned with the muslims who *are* overrunning Europe.
Modern western defence policy is 'let the US handle it'.
Just run over europe, stay 2-3 month and fundsupport/equip pro russian nationalists (basically FN, AfD, Wilders etc) and retreat back and keep some clay in ukraine or so
NWO BTFO
>NATO generals in Europe want more toys and money
shocking
>invading muslim nations
Thought they learned their lesson with afghanistan.
This
Meanwhile muslims are literally overrunning europe as we speak and building mosques to hide all their weaponry
Oh yeah and enjoy the radiation spreading all over .
France alone has 58 nuclear reactors.
Yeah right.
>Implying the revolution in Ukraine wasn't a CIA coupe from the start.
>Implying it wasn't the long term geo-strategic goal of the hardliners in Washington to dominate Ukraine to weaken Russia.
>Implying a lot of the Neocons weren't all too happy to aggitate Western Europe against Russia and see us hurt each other while they prosper.
Remember the sanctions which they enforced us to do? Well, turns out: meanwhile the USA had increased their trade with Russia.
They hate an alliance between ressource rich Russia and high-tech, industrious Germany.
But don't worry, if Russia truly would try to take over the baltics, I will see them as the treat you want us to see them. But Crimea and Ukraine definetely was a special case.
Wasn't there a thing called MAD?
Even if the US would not intervene the UK and France nukes would still end the war in a couple of minutes
Sure.
Like a coalition of Nations couldn't defend against a half assed running army. A military that is in disrepair and lacks the proper funding isn't going to take anything.
This is just a ploy for bigger military budgets in the west
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>BAN ASSAULT MOSQUES
You really done goofd it sempai-kun sama
Yeah...but don't worry: a lot of Europeans don't buy into it anymore. Although the propaganda machine tries everything in its power.
Eternal butthurt. Barking like a little dog yet scared shitless. Just kys already.
china is a legitimate threat to the world
>Still, a war between the USA and Russia would not mean the death of countries such as Brazil,
Maybe not, but the entire northern hemisphere would be good and thoroughly fucked.
And then you would have to deal with hundreds of millions of impoverished people trying to get into your country while at the same time seeing a complete shutdown of global trade. No more spare parts for your combine harvesters from Germany, no more antibiotics from the US, no more imported food. Best case scenario for you is what Venezuela is going through now times 10 and with millions of people trying to go south.
I don't think i am exaggerating when i am saying that least 80% of humanity would die as a result from a full scale nuclear exchange. We would recover ofc but the first generations would be complete shit.
Misquoted; it is baltic states and not European continent. Russian supply lines would collapse if they expanded that fast all over Europe
Ukraine is not Russia. They are an independent nation who make their own decisions. If Russia doesn't like it, they can fuck off.
Most people in my country support the EU and NATO because we value their partnership more than Russia's. I would also protest against a Russian puppet government if I had to.
You can't "pressure" a country into annexing its neighbors, no matter the circumstances. Russia wants to tell the whole world to fuck off and rip apart all international treaties because they feel like they have enough power to do that. Putin's endgame is to reclaim the lost Soviet Union lands, which is half of Europe.
The Russians that live in Eastern Europe were never from here - they were brought in and the natives deported during WW2. I can't believe you retards who are falling for their obvious brainwashing schemes.
>m-muh Russia is a good boi
>he dint want to occupy no one but he had to
>Russia could easily
I don't think so
butthurt belt on guard
>mfw portugal so irrelevant we dont get refugees or russian invader troops
USA hold simulation wars against Russia several times in 2013-2015 (probably now in 2016 aswell) and kept losing Europe to the Russians.
My friend in the swedish military told me that NATO soldiers spoke to each other during lunch.. that a war in the baltic states would be a pure slaughter for NATO troops, since the Russians would completely obliterate the 3 small countries in a matter of days.
The only country ready for a full large scale war against Russia is USA. There's no question about it.
>Europe used to be the most powerful continent in the world
>now it's just a pawn for America, Russia, and China to fight over
Just more justification being made for a European Union army
The strong should dominate the weak
Nato is like an aged whore who's furious no one wants to catcall her anymore
but why? blyat, somebody can give me at least one good reason to do so?
Where's the problem? I hope the madman Putin does it.
Come get some Ruskies. Fucking commie bastards i will avenge Germany.
Europe is still the n°1 economy in the world
Let them come. Deutschmourne hungers.
Damn Mexico is there too?
At this point it'd probably be a good thing if russia invaded and conquered europe.
Peace has made us weak. When you're not worrying about survival and actual threats, your threat-detection becomes weak. And you start putting more dedication into liberal bullshit like allowing the entire 3rd world into europe so we can take care of them.
And yet Russia would be stopped on the border of finland.
Winland.
Because Russians are led by the jews and are mongolian hordes.
>Russia invade
>Russia win
>USA invade Russia
>Russia lose
The first one to strike will lose.
Eastern Europe will really deserve what they'll get for being so retarded
protip: USA don't give a shit about you. They only see the opportunity of a huge economic growth after your countries will be wiped out in a big war
>Ukraine is not Russia.
>They are an independent nation who make their own decisions.
>Ukraine
>making their own decisions
hahahhahahahhahahahhahahaha
>mfw
He won't. Europe has nothing anyone wants anymore except a horde of welfare kebab and mentally ill trannies who think they're their "allies"
Those times are over, Hans. Try and keep your wife's daughter from getting raped by Ahmed on the way back from school.
Because otherwise, you'll be just another piece of our glorious federation of corporate republics. Look forward to paying for your pierogis in Euro.
Whats good is economy while your people are weak betas that will flee when the war starts?
how did things get so bad
I'd gladly welcome our russian overlords
China is so large and with so many internal security concerns that it cannot act aggressively on the international stage.