It is with great regret that I must warn other Trump supporters with this revelation I've had after redpilling hard the past few days.
Trump is a government plant to get the real evil dictator Hillary Clinton elected president. I'm not entirely sure whether he is in on it or if he is simply being used, but one things for sure. The entire establishment will stop at nothing to make sure she is in power.
Allow me to break down the evidence for the inevitable naysayers here who are likely to ironically bombard me with cuckisms.
>Trumps campaign isn't spending or getting donor funding since the end of the primaries I don't think I need to explain why this is a red flag but since someone will probably call me a faggot cuck for this and everything else I will explain. YOU CANNOT WIN AN ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SPENDING. Media and propaganda are everything in American politics and without the money to do so, people will be brainwashed by the other candidate through negative ads/media buys and general costly campaigning. If trump were serious about winning, wouldnt he at the very least have a PAC or donor funding of some sort? Saying he doesn't need it doesn't fly so don't even bother.
>Trump has deep ties to the Clinton family There are numerous bits of evidence that Trump is best friends with the Clintons from wedding and golf photos to tweets from only FOUR YEARS AGO praising the Clintons. It is essentially undeniable that trump was friends with Clintons at least this short of a time ago. He is also connected to other establishment insiders such as Rudy Giuliani. To simply dismiss this as being innocently part of the "rich and powerful" club is naive as fuck.
>Trump has deployed political strategies that are intentionally good for the primaries but terrible for the general election I know a lot of people here dismiss the Mexico thing, but believe me when I say this. It was meant to gain votes from the larger part of the republican base to win the candidacy and to lose votes from identity groupthink politics brainwashed masses in the general election. The Obama coronation was structured the much the same way. Get minorities to only have one "reasonable" choice and shame those that "turn their backs on their own people". It worked in the last two elections. What makes you think that's not what they/trump are doing now? Latino support for trump is an illusion statistically, the reality is he will lose the Latino vote to Hillary in the general especially as more propaganda is bought.
>His Hillary attacks are weak Why isn't Trump focusing more on Hillary being the establishment candidate that he isn't? He doesn't even mention the Clinton Foundation corruption or the fact that she skates on everything an average American would be locked up for life for doing. If he really cared about coercing bernouts to join up then why isn't he focusing more on the fact that she is pro TPP and he isn't and so forth?
>Trump was a character on reality TV One of the fakest things that the American masses drone to is directly connected to Trump. It is clear that reality TV is used for social engineering and spreading propaganda. If you were to look back on all the successful reality shows from the recent past there's really only one with an iconic "bad guy" character. If he wasnt chosen because of this, then it's one hell of a coincidence.
Dylan Johnson
No, Trump is simply very butthurt. He felt insulted by the leaders of the Republican Party when back in 2008 (I think it was) he was rebuffed from any attempt to be a presidential candidate. This is why he got so mad at Obama and went with the nutcase birther stuff.
Now his sole goal is to bring down the Republican Party from the inside. He's mad at the establishment that rejected him, so now he's mobilizing a beta uprising of the "poorly educated" to fulminate their rage and express anti-establishment hatred toward Washington orthodoxies. He does even have proper political positions -- he's just doing a Samson and trying to bring the whole temple down on top of him and everyone else inside.
Ayden Murphy
>Its just all too convenient/fishy/likely The establishment has coronated her years ago, and top donors who typically donate to republicans are switching to the dems for Clinton. They want Clinton in power because she does favors for anyone willing to throw cash at her. If you don't think the illuminati would devise such a plot then you are blind. Big money is abandoning the Republican Party because the dems have been so successful at brainwashing the SJW loving masses that the masters are seeing them in a new light, since they are now a center right party. Everything is just too perfect for this not to be true, seeing that most people can't stand the bitch and would only vote for her to beat a "bad guy" or "threat". Trumps candidacy is nothing more than typical establishment fear tactics. Trump supporters, conservatives, libertarians and working class citizens of all types; WAKE THE FUCK UP. Supporting trump is helping Clinton. Go ahead and commence with cuck posts, anyone supporting trump after swallowing this red pill deserves what they get when the bitch cunt dictator takes over.
GARY JOHNSON 2016
Parker Butler
>its a trump is actually a Hillary plant episode
Zachary Russell
You might be right, he might not even be "in on it" so to speak. But if you don't think he was helped by the establishment bought media to win the primaries and lose the general, then you haven't been paying attention to govt. propaganda and media corruption for the past 20 years. More evidence points to him playing along, so it's more likely that he is a complete and total fraud.
Jace Martin
DELETE THIS: The Thread
Kevin Stewart
Idk how this is news to you. Every fucking election is rigged. Since, like, Lincoln.
Eat poo and die for being this stupid.
Easton Baker
I suppose you didn't see the speech he made today on Hillary.
It was a good speech, while I admit it still held back on a 40 year legacy of serious criminality and scandals, it's a start and he's openly beginning to paint her picture.
Daniel Peterson
I am a stalwart Trump supporter, and these thoughts have crossed my mind, but I am unwavering in my resolve. I would literally vote for Malcom X before I would vote for Hillary. Any vote not for Trump is an indirect vote for Hillary.
I cannot stress this enough, Hillary would be the KO after 8 years of "Take America Down a Peg or Two". Supreme court appointments, trade legislation, simmering multi-continent conflicts, domestic policy....its too important to let her have it.
Pic related, it was the moment I decided that its Trump or destruction. You can't be the President if you are that flippant with intentionally circumventing FOIA to hide the influence exchange you setup between your State department and charity foundation. Shame on anyone who thinks Trump is the worse evil in this election.
Grayson Ortiz
Wow, really makes you think
Ethan Hughes
>it's another Trump is a Hillary plant episode
You people really have nothing better?
Angel Young
but what about muh landslides?
Lincoln Green
Place your mouth directly under your butt and push.
Landslide.
Also: LETS BUILD A WALL!
so dumb.. They tunnel to America already, you know? Also, airplanes, jetpacks and catapults, etc etc. Fuck my countries gullibility because let me tell you: shit trickles.
Ryder Nguyen
This is very clearly a shill.
>"...after red-pilling hard the past few days."
There is no regular Sup Forums poster who would use that particular phrase. This poster is clearly new, and obviously a shill.
Isaiah Martin
Johnson can win. He is already polling high enough to be in the debates and hardly anyone even knows who he is yet. Once people realize there is a third option that doesn't have unfavorability ratings through the roof, they are going to consider voting independent for the first time ever. This is the election we can beat the two party plutocracy at their own game in. They fucked up by giving two options that are unfavorable to most voters. If Trump was real, I would be supporting him as well, but with all this evidence I simply cannot believe it any longer. Gary Johnson is pretty close to a perfect libertarian to be the first in the White House. It's what this country needs really. He is ten times the legit libertarian that Ron Paul was.
Christian Reed
>A shill denouncing BOTH candidates. Bout time the fuckers got something right.
Hunter Brown
Trump was friend with lots of people, hes a business man, it's his job to be friends with people
Isaiah Rivera
>Johnson can win.
And the plot thickens.
You have no idea if Trump is real or not, but you've got no other choice anyway. At least he's running on populist policies the country needs.
If you think our next president is going to be Gary Johnson, you're thwacked out of your skull.
Liam Watson
@78160109 >other Trump supporters
But you're not a Trump supporter, you're a shill, and not a very good one.
Samuel Kelly
>libertardians are genuinely this delusional
Wow, really makes you think....
Anthony Parker
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trumpert's speech today absolutely hammered on hillary and clinton corruption in general, which just about goes against everything you've posted
Elijah Cruz
>Hillary's master plan to steal the election was to get the one man with views significantly different to hers nominated for the Republicans instead of letting Yeb! win and then annihilating him in the general I've never heard a good argument for this
Nathaniel Sullivan
>Latino support is an illusion statistically.
Tell that to the naturalized American latinos living in border towns that actually see what comes across every day and are utterly terrified.
Illegals staging riots, waving Mexican flags and altogether disrupting the American political process is not a barometer for the sentiments of this demographic. Neither are your cooked statistics.
Leo Johnson
Wow, really makes you think.
Luke Brooks
Its not just the voters who will play a role in Johnson's support. Once the donors see that he is gaining support after the first debate, they'll switch from Clinton to him because he is a bigger supporter of deregulation and is generally more favorable to business than Clinton's policy. The only reason libertarians were laughed off in the past is that republicans were worried they were going to split the conservative vote. That doesn't apply in this election, especially since many past republican donors are worried about trumps economic policy and most either privately or publicly are backing a democrat this election.
Christopher King
>dont vote for trump because it will only get hillary more votes
literally shill yourself
Alexander Bailey
no you see its not. he is saying dont vote for trump if you hate hillary.
it means 1 less vote fro trump. its still shilling for hillary by removing trump votes
Christopher Morales
thats because you are correct. its a retarded premise because if it was jeb, either hillary would win or jeb and the dynasty of merica would continue
Grayson Bennett
Nice shill thread faggot.
sage
Zachary Bailey
Why would those donors be in favor of deregulation and smaller government? Corporations are the biggest welfare queens in the country.
Samuel Allen
Being this entrenched in two party "vote against the other" thinking. Can't you see that they have the country completely cucked by this?
Nathan Sanchez
Put the Johnson 2016 bumper sticker on your car and be done with it.
There is no room in the psyche of the US people for a third party candidate, nor is the media ever going to open the airwaves for him.
William Robinson
Naturalized Latino here. Lived in El Paso.
I know trump is full of shit and I know that his wall plan will be utterly inneffective.
You don't speak for us you idiot. What WILL stop cartel and drug violence is a revamp of Americas drug laws and prison systems.
If there is a buyer there will ALWAYS be a seller. If mexico was glassed this instant, china and the the rest of latin america would be the first ones to meet american drug addict needs.
Nothing would change. How's about we first fix our populations massive drug problem first?
Ethan Williams
Nice trips, but you are wrong friend even though you have the best intentions in mind.
It would be nice if a filet mignon was the 3rd option to the choice between the two shit sandwiches we have now, but its not the case. It might be the biggest turnout for an independent this year ever, but not enough to take it from the two party system.
I like Trump for a multitude of reasons, but he wasn't my first choice. I wouldnt say he's the best for the country, but certainly the best remaining choice. He has my vote, and he would have to be caught red handed jerking off onto the Constitution and then selling it on ebay for money to make a LGBT youth indoctrination camp for him to lose it.
Easton Cooper
>Trump is a government plant to get the real evil dictator Hillary Clinton elected president.
This was pretty obvious a year ago. Trump's whole purpose was to split the Rep. vote so that a real candidate isn't nominated.
Joshua Jones
Honest question: Are y'all pulling my leg by taking any of these candidates seriously, ever? I get holding the crimson tide at bay, but of all the ideas of what a man is, in all the ways a man can be a man, Trump just takes the fucking cake huh?
> but, buuut, keep Hilary from office
So what? So that Trump can come in and do the same exact fucking things as ANY other Pres has done? (War, expanding government, etc.)
You have a serious rift between the people of America, caused by its leaders. These people are on the same team, they don't give two fucks about the promises they make, they know they can't keep them, too much foundation layed for the fuckiness that's ahead, and that's how they planned it. If they hadn't planned it then they would see what a shitfest it all has become (economy, middle East, this huge rift between dick flaying crony capitalists and the mass of overly dependant pushover man children, etc etc) and the serious jeopardy we are in and made some honest moves to prevent it. How much evidence do you need? How shitty does your life need to get before you realize that no matter the gender, race, ideology or religion, these people in power want to stay there and that that means keeping you down? That means feeding you shit. That means galavanting about just for your pleasure. You know the ratings they get with this whole "presidential race" bullshit? They have you eating right out of their hands.
Jaxon Young
I dated a latina from El Paso once. She was gorgeous. A literature student, dumb as shit, thought parts of the US should be given back to Mexico, even though it's a shithole and that land was paid through conquest and even money.
You don't speak for anyone but yourself either. However, there are many reports from naturalized latinos in border towns such as Hidalgo, etc saying exactly what I've said. They don't want their efforts to assimilate being undermined by thugs. Pretty simple.
But I see you have an agenda here, you obviously like drugs. Nobody was talking about them before you. You know this administration arms the cartels? Our government has worked in direct collusion with these people for decades bringing drugs in. You also don't seem to have a grasp on the fact that we do actually have border patrol in this country and immigration procedures that are being deliberately flanked. Patrol can't do their jobs and the worst are shepherded in.
We can work on the American drug problem once we start enforcing patrols on our Southern border and deporting illegals.
Isaac Moore
>Johnson can win No he can't. And when Clinton grants blanket amnesty to 30 million Mexicans who love socialism, libertarianism will be permanently killed in America.
Good job fag.
Landon Anderson
Daily reminder that #CorrectTheRecord is a thing and Hillary is actively spending money on shills like OP.
Christian Ortiz
Hello you POS shill. Explain how Trump was expressing the same concerns and trade policies in books and interviews decades ago, before he had any desire to run for president?
Brayden Cruz
refute this
Nathaniel Sanchez
Yeah, you're right. I am shilling for Clinton so much that I am suggesting that she and the establishment she represents are subverting democracy and rigging the election for her to win. I'm sure I'm convincing a ton of people to like her!
Just face it, they are going to rig the general election votes. Vote for Trump if you support him, but don't be surprised when he loses. I'm just warning the disillusioned so that they are ready for what's coming.
Jack Gutierrez
You guys aren't even trying hard anymore.
Nathaniel Bell
You can't be old enough to post here. Usually people have grasped this underbelly of the democratic process enough by the time they reach 18 that they don't feel compelled to blather about it as if it's the first time anyone's ever said it.
Jackson White
What OP believes is what I've believed all the time. Trump is just too much of a meme to be real. The 'Build a beautiful wall kek' was the most shameless retarded pandering to non-educated Americans I've heard since the 'hope and change'-magical negro mantra or the 'wooooooorld star' hypnotism that niggers do on youtube. Sorry to shit on your parade Sup Forums but you need to start feeling the Johnson.
Parker Hughes
Shill thread, plz delete. Welcome to 14 months ago. Trump has been vetted. It's time to stop smoking the dope. Trump is a revolution that defies all odds because the media was 100% against him yet his number were great because people went to the source and stopped getting their info from jewish controlled media outlets. It's time to hang up the tinfoil hat
Angel Scott
>Trump might not even be real >still better than Johnson
U wot
Connor Ortiz
You're shilling for a goober candidate who has zero chance of winning. Go out and show a photo of Gary Johnson on the street and see the taint quivering amount of *literally who's* you get.
Joshua Baker
I don't think Trump is planted by Hillary but if he was then he wouldn't be acting any differently.
Dominic Murphy
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Owen Flores
You're the shill, fag.
Lots of people know who Johnson is you fucking retard.
Hunter Adams
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Carson Edwards
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Adrian Brown
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Kevin Reyes
Being aware of the possibility that a candidate may not fulfill their promises once elected does not mean I'm going to vote or even waste my time acknowledging a candidate who has absolutely no chance of winning.
Christopher Bailey
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Lincoln Edwards
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Blake Ramirez
The "final boss" candidate had to be an outsider so it was easier to paint him as a loony fascist. Plus Trump is weak on policy details, which are Clintons only strong points. They strategically picked the candidate who would set the stage for exploitable fear. Fear is always the complacency tactic.
Connor Mitchell
Yea the media was so against him with non-stop daily coverage
Josiah Baker
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Jacob Edwards
Yes, good goy, ignore the fact that the media pushed hard for ted cruz and John kasich and Marco rubio, yesssssss, reject nationalism and the zeitgeist and throw your vote away for a meme candidate, ensuring a Shillary presidency
Leo Miller
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James Taylor
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Christopher Nelson
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Landon Green
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Levi Rogers
Trump Flip-Flops
Ayden Martinez
You should spend more time in the real world and less time in cyberspace
Andrew Baker
Gee Bill! Lotsa people know!
Go outside and ride your bike, you shitty bastard. I don't know what you don't get about the overall psychology of a nation and why the two-party system is so popular. Coke and Pepsi, Chevy and Ford, Microsoft and Apple, Clinton and Trump.
Your frumpy fucking Libertarian candidate just isn't going to cut the mustard, and when he doesn't win, I'll revel my spot behind you in traffic with your shitty weathered Johnson 2016 bumper sticker.
Adam Nguyen
You're so obviously full of shit
>Hey guys, you don't want clinton to win right? >Well all we have to do is split the republican vote and create a situation where Clinton is certain to win! >That will show her! #feelthejohnson
fuck off
Nathan Perry
>Johnson polls in the double digits and can easily pull voters from both sides where neither Clinton or Trump can
H-he has no chance! R-right guys?
Isaiah Baker
Hello everyone Donald J Trump here,
OP is lying let me be the first to tell you I haaaaaate the clintons! Theres no way I would do them any favors! I only do favors for my friends, like real friends who I could feel comfortable inviting to my weddings. Not those slimy clintons, I hate them!
So in conclusion, vote for me, a person who HATES the Clinton's. Lets keep them out of the white house! I haaaaaaaaaate them!
Aaron Harris
Non stop daily hit pieces, he used the media to his advantage, he has always maintained the idea that bad publicity is better than no publicity since the 80s The controllers seriously underestimated the fact that Americans are waking up to the semetic lies
Elijah Hill
Johnson is gonna be on CNN, is that normie enough for you?
Charles Rodriguez
>look at me I can spread memes! >le Trump has no policies >I've never bothered to check his actual policies >le fear mongering, everything is fine just enjoy the ride down to the bottom of the sinking ship
Nolan Lopez
I'm convinced Trump is going to win.
Right now we got hilldogs and trumpets who are polarized in views. Trumpets are basically stupid and will vote for Trump no matter what, but there's the middle ground people who dislike both candidates and go to Johnson. American people will never never elect a third party candidate. Middle ground Americans will go for Johnson making a significant impact on voters who vote Hilldog, but Johnson isn't a threat. People are too unaware. At most, he'll get 20% of the vote.
tl;dr Trumpets are more loyal than Hilldogs and the more indecisive Hilldog voters will go to Johnson.
Joshua Mitchell
Wow, CNN! SO CREDIBLE AND PRESTIGIOUS, TOTALLY NOT CONTROLLED MEDIA Surely this is the end for the Trump campaign
Julian Edwards
>people are generally polarized, that's my whole argument and reasoning!!
Angel Foster
Middle ground = milquetoast cowards afraid to take action or a firm stance on anything
Jackson Miller
Even if the media is reluctant to cover Johnson, he will be in the debates and will smoke Trump and Clinton. After the first debate, the media will have no choice but to cover him. Don't forget, these debates are going to be the most watched debates in history.
Noah Davis
Johnson is a mess.
Lincoln Hernandez
>pshh get off cyberspace, kid >pshh get off mainstream media
Backpedaling harder than a liberal.
Christian Cruz
>believing anything republishits say
Parker Bell
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Hunter Martin
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Jacob Howard
Or maybe actually decided that deporting all illegals and accepting Mohammad to cuck you are impractical solutions.
Tyler Wright
The media knew what they were doing. They had their cake and ate it. They could be as anti trump as they wanted while simultaneously giving him billions in free publicity. They know as well as any non brainwashed person that it doesn't matter what angle they gave, there would be millions who would support trump after seeing him on TV nonstop.
Mason Cook
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Justin Hernandez
I've voted for Johnson before but the stakes are too high this election to not vote Trump. I don't care what anyone says, Johnson doesn't have a chance in hell. Even if Hillary and Trump killed a puppy and raped a baby to death on live TV Johnson would still not win.
Jacob Johnson
>libertarian gets 20% are you fucking 12 years old
Nathaniel Anderson
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Joseph Wilson
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Jack Cook
>If you vote for Trump she wins
I see the correct the record Canadian outreach program is moving long nicely.
Mason White
The fuck is that
Brayden Bennett
Why would Hillary voters default to Johnson? Trump's policies fall more in line with Libertarians.
No one in their right mind would vote for Hillary Clinton. Probably why I've never actually met someone who was voting for her. But I can still make the estimation they're very separated from reality and don't read a damn thing beyond Twitter.
Ryan Richardson
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Jackson Diaz
what is this
Joseph Evans
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Benjamin Barnes
>Trumps campaign isn't spending or getting donor funding since the end of the primaries >YOU CANNOT WIN AN ELECTION IN THE UNITED STATES WITHOUT COMPETITIVE SPENDING. Worked pretty well in the primaries.
>Trump has deep ties to the Clinton family This one has been debunked time and time again. If you aren't in public office and can make more money by being close to those that are, you will do it regardless of your political leanings. To not do so is undercutting yourself and your business.
>Trump has deployed political strategies that are intentionally good for the primaries but terrible for the general election Latinos vote differently than blacks do as blacks and hispanics do not have the same level of grievance culture. To call back to previous election cycles for this particular election is meaningless. Even if Trump had a 20% lead it wouldn't mean shit until the final vote is counted on November. The pundits and political media that has relied so hard on polls in the passed were almost completely wrong when it came to Trump, so why are you being so reliant on it?
>His Hillary attacks are weak He called her out pretty hard a few hours ago desu familam.
>Trump was a character on reality TV Nigga...
>Its just all too convenient/fishy/likely If yo- >that closing