This is pretty shocking

youtube.com/watch?v=Im0IisZ77QI

Just watched this.
I knew shitslam was bad,but...
Shit it's fucked up.

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It's Islam.
Muhammed raped a 9 year old girl.

its a really interesting talk, i dont know enough about history to say this is true but if he is right in saying islam caused the dark ages, then thats pretty fucked up

It is the purpose of the present study to examine the causes of this, or, more precisely, to examine a highly controversial thesis about it which appeared in the early years of the twentieth century. This was the thesis of Henri Pirenne, a Belgian historian whose specialism was the early medieval period. Pirenne maintained that the real destroyers of classical civilization were the Muslims. It was the Arab Invasions, he said, which broke the unity of the Mediterranean world and turned the Middle Sea – previously one of the world’s most important trading highways – into a battleground. It was only after the appearance of Islam, claimed Pirenne, that the cities of the West, which depended upon the Mediterranean trade for their survival, began to die. With them went the entire infrastructure of classical culture. Pirenne found that from the mid-seventh century onwards a host of luxury products, which had hitherto been common in Gaul, Italy and Spain, disappeared, and that with them went the prosperity upon which classical culture depended. Towns shrank and society became more rural.


Sounds legit to me.

uhrao.blogspot.com/2013/02/islam-caused-dark-ages.html

Essentially, what Pirenne was saying was that Islam caused the Dark Age in Europe. This was, even in the 1920s, when the thesis was first published, an extremely controversial idea, and went quite against the grain of contemporary opinion: for the tendency over the previous century had increasingly been to see Islam as the harbinger of medieval Europe’s civilization; as the great preserver of classical knowledge and learning; as an enlightened and tolerant influence which reached Europe in the seventh century and which commenced then to raise the continent out of the darkness into which it had sunk. This had been the default mode of thought amongst perhaps the majority of academics for almost half a century before the appearance of Pirenne’s thesis, a view of history deeply rooted in contemporary European thinking. And then along came Pirenne to claim the precise opposite!

As might be imagined, such a remarkable counter-thesis generated heated debate; a debate that endures to this day. And to this day, the two camps are divided rather precisely as they were in the time of Pirenne, who died in 1935. There are those who, with varying degrees of passion, maintain that Islam essentially saved the remnants of classical culture and learning, which they transmitted to a benighted Europe; and there are those (a much smaller group) who, with Pirenne, maintain that Islam was the destroyer of that very culture and learning; and that if Europe was benighted after the seventh century, it was benighted precisely because of the actions of the Muslims. How strange is this situation! How is it that one topic can give rise to such radically differing perspectives? We are, we might say, once more in what was known during the Middle Ages as “the world’s debate.” In those days, during the Crusades, the “debate” was waged by force of arms. The academic and in some respects ideological battle being fought today is waged in newspapers, books, journals, television, radio and the internet; though another “theatre” of the debate is arguably being waged precisely as it was in the time of the Crusades: by force of arms.

Cheking flag , wtf arent you bro tier with Albo roach , why are you complaning

>child marriage
Nothing wrong with child brides.
They were married.

Universal Human Rights Alpha and Omega

The UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights, a 20th century landmark, was rejected by the Organization of the Islamic Conference, which adopted their own "Declaration of Human Rights in Islam". The latter states that human rights should be subject to the Islamic Law (Sharia) without contradicting it. Sharia tremendously restricts women's and gay's rights, freedom of speech and affirmative actions. Sharia and Human Rights are opposing concepts.

>1 hour long

Yea, nah I dont think so

KEK

From this, it is clear that if we wish to chart the decline and fall of classical civilization we must not confine our gaze to the West, but must pay close attention to what happened in the East: It was here, and not in the West, that was located the core area of that civilization. Pirenne failed to notice this, perhaps because of the habitually Eurocentric mindset of academic culture in his time. Yet examine the East we must, and this is the task we set ourselves from Chapter 10 onwards.

As we shall see, whatever might be said about the disappearance of classical civilization in the West, in the East there is no question at all that it was terminated in the mid-seventh century, and that it was terminated by the Arabs.

Read the article then.

There are, or have been, interesting exceptions to the rule, such as Joseph Campbell, who spoke of “the sleep of Islam” which overtook the Middle East in the seventh century; but in general twentieth century scholarship has been remarkably positive about the Arabian faith. Yet even a cursory examination of the tenets of Islam is enough to convince us that it is not a faith like any other; and that it is, on the contrary, a religio-political ideology whose fundamental principle is aggressive expansionism. In Chapter 13 we find that, through the doctrine of perpetual “holy war,” or jihad, plus the notion of entitlement central to sharia law, Islam had a thoroughly and unprecedentedly destabilizing influence upon the Mediterranean world. It was the perpetual raiding of Muslim pirates and slave-traders that brought about the abandonment throughout southern Europe of the scattered settlements of classical times and the retreat to defended hilltop fortifications – the first medieval castles.

Whilst some historians of medieval Europe, relying on the traditional written sources, have consistently argued for the removal of the term “Dark Age” from our historical nomenclature, the archaeological evidence has served only to demonstrate how thoroughly appropriate the term is. For try as they might, excavators have signally failed to discover any civilization worthy of the name in Europe between the late seventh and early tenth centuries. Indeed, the progress of research has repeatedly demonstrated that even the pitifully few monuments and artifacts hitherto assigned the “dark” centuries have, on further investigation, usually been shown not to belong to that epoch at all; but invariably either to the period immediately following the Dark Age, or to the period immediately preceding it.

Surely, archaeologists have said, ample proof that Europe was indeed a dark and barbarous – and largely unpopulated – land during those long years.

looks like propaganda to me

Get out you pedo fuck

it's primarily based on archeological evidence.

Why do you think girls shouldn't be married good and young?

Uncool Selfbumps there m8

Not meant to be, just not really familiar with posting etiquette and commands. (Also I am not the OP) (Usually just lurk, but found this topic very interesting)

Will watch later, understanding this shit is my obsession now. Thanks for video.

the present study concludes by noting that scholarship has now arrived at a several conclusions which are really beyond dispute, and which tend to offer definitive support for Pirenne.

First and foremost, the evidence suggests that classical or Graeco-Roman civilization was alive and well into the late sixth and early seventh centuries. This was particularly the case in the Middle East and North Africa, which were the ancient heartlands of Mediterranean culture, and in which were located by far the greatest centers of population, wealth, and industry. Evidence shows that until the first quarter of the seventh century these regions were flourishing as never before. But classical civilization was also alive and well in Europe, a region which (aside from central and southern Italy), had always been peripheral to Graeco-Roman civilization. And outside of central Italy we find none of the signs of decay that Pirenne’s critics claimed to have detected. On the contrary, Gaul and in particular Spain supported a thriving and vigorous late classical culture; and this was a culture that was growing, rather than declining. Indeed, by the latter years of the sixth century classical civilization had begun to spread into regions never reached by the Roman Legions, and Latin, as well as Greek, was now studied along the banks of the Elbe in eastern Germany, and in the Hebrides, off northern Scotland.

Secondly, the evidence shows that this culture went into rapid and terminal decline in the 620s and 630s. The great cities of Asia Minor and Syria everywhere at this time show signs of violent destruction; after which they were never rebuilt. Whatever archaeology appears on top of them is invariably impoverished and small-scale; usually little more than a diminutive fortress. Contemporary with the destruction of the classical cities, we find a universal decay in the countryside: Top-soil is washed away and a layer of subsoil, known as the Younger Fill, covers settlements in river-valleys and blocks harbors. This stratum appears throughout the Mediterranean world, from Syria to Spain, and is the geographical signature of the end of Graeco-Roman civilization. With the appearance of this layer, classical patterns of settlement and land-management are abandoned. This is the pattern too in southern Europe, where we now find a retreat of settlement to defended hill-top sites – the first medieval castles. Both these developments can be explained by the appearance of Muslim raiders and pirates throughout the Mediterranean coastlands from the 630s onwards; and if that is not the accepted solution, then no answer is forthcoming.

Thirdly, from the mid-seventh century onwards there is an almost total disappearance of archaeology in Europe and throughout the Middle East and North Africa for a period of three centuries. This disappearance, it seems, has nothing to do with what has always been called the “Dark Age” of Europe, because it appears also in the Islamic lands. By the mid- to late-tenth century cities and towns revive both in the Islamic and Christian lands, and (though the great cities of classical times are gone forever), the material culture of the new settlements looks strikingly reminiscent in many ways of the material culture of the seventh century.

That, in brief, is what the archaeology says.

At the end of the present volume we take a brief look at events subsequent to the rise and spread of Islam. There we find that not only did the Arabs terminate classical civilization in the Levant and North Africa, and therefore cut Europe off from the humanizing and civilizing impulses which had previously emanated from those regions, but they now began, in the tenth century, to exert their own influence upon the West. And that influence was anything but benevolent. It is of course widely accepted that Islam had a profound cultural impact upon early medieval Europe. Indeed, the all-pervasiveness of that impact has been traditionally seen as underlining the cultural superiority of Islam at that time. Yet, as we shall see, in addition to some commentaries upon Aristotle, and a few scientific and technological concepts (which were not “Arab” inventions at all) Islam was to communicate to Europe a whole host of ideas and attitudes that were far from being enlightened. Most obviously, the concept of “holy war”, which Europe adopted (admittedly somewhat reluctantly) in the eleventh century, was entirely an Islamic innovation; as was the tendency towards theocracy (enshrined in the all-powerful medieval Papacy) and the suppression, by force, of heterodox ideas.

I will admit i had never heard this theory, but it sounds totally legit to me. Also, I couldn't get the video to work, but just did a google search for "islam caused the dark ages".

Saw this on the subway station today in Toronto lmao

They try to compete with the kind Christian ads, and they post this

A popular quote from the pedophilia loving prophet himself

Last lines are
>"...from the crumbs of the earth

The bible has some pretty weird shit in it too.

I'm not a mudshit and I agree that islam needs to fuck off but it should probably say forced child marriage instead of just child marriage, because marriage isn't all that violent.

It most definitely CAN be though. ala Sharia? Saudi Arabian women are really super happy i guess.

(((Warner)))

> b-but he is red pilled!!!

Warner?

>checks flag

Wonder where that mentality is leading you...

...

Wow, this really makes you think, huh....

>60minutes

there is only one kind of islam:
youtube.com/watch?v=QQ2QevndGLg

When did Keanu turned into a fedora vaping faggot?

World is literally mad, do majority of people even knows what they want from life?

Just found this... infowars.com/farrakhan-trump-is-right-about-banning-muslims-because-they-hate-america/

Frightening!

TL;DR - europe is fucked, has lost its culture/unity and will die a slow demographic death as islam replaces them over the next 100 years just like they did in the middle east with christians who lived there

>tfw USA will probably be the last standing western country in the far future

Well we've managed to keep the "old" stuff here pretty well. We still have child brides in the hills of Utah... We can take one more cultural group and survive, but we're gonna need the guns.

Wew lads it is really THAT bad

Shit. Same front page... infowars.com/freed-yazidi-sex-slave-isis-has-not-been-labeled-as-infidel-group-within-islam-by-any-muslim-country/

Oh yes it's that bad...

Huh, really makes you think.......

The most interesting part was that there wasn't really a Europe before the fall of Rome and rise of Islam. Instead there was a Mediterranean cultural sphere which included everything from North Africa to Levant to South Europe, and that Egypt was closer (by ship) and more interesting to the Romans than Gaul was. Then after the conquests the trade stopped, and Europe had to go it alone.

Till they got the kick to head West. Sure. Of course, now the EU has just been a total disaster. They should go back to amorphous blob of slightly peaceful occasionally warring colonies. Sometimes, I think we might be better off doing the same thing here on the North American Continent.

bump because shitters prefer jerking off to porn insetad of watching 60 minutes vid

Sup Forums might also find this talk interesting in the same regard :

Brigitte Gabriel: Radical Islam: The Plan to Destroy America from Within: Infiltration (2011)

youtube.com/watch?v=PFO1AtjoUoo

I think everyone is embroiled in the Brexit, but now I'm starting to think the war that follows from that would be good. USA has to start realizing what it's like to fight an ideological and physical war.

Makes me think of a book I heard about a while back, something relating to how China has been planning an economic takeover for hundreds of years. I wish I could remember the specifics. There's no doubt that everyone is out to completely obliterate each other in one fashion or the other.

Read Stephen Coughlin's book Catastrophic Failure. It explains Muslim psychological warfare, Muslims seizing control of the debate, organizational infiltration and jurisprudential concepts like abrogation of earlier Quranic verses by later ones.

Seems like we hear more and more from actual muslims warning about their own religion. I know there have been more in the news (albeit a little hard to find still).

Makes me think maybe the Jews are really the ones who want the Muslims to win the war for the united NWO planet. Then, perpetual victimhood for eternity, and everyone else is more or less pacified.

What a stupid analysis.
Completely ignores the fact that Islam was used by princes and empires as a rallying cry for conquest and blames the religion for it, while only showing the Crusades as the equivalent for Christians.

If you used the same criteria that he blindly applies to Muslims, you would be able to see that European Christians conquered most of the world and killed and forcibly converted anyone that wasn't Christian.

We Canadians are still apologising for the infamous residential schools which were, in effect, an attempt to convert aboriginal people away from their culture and folk religions towards Christianity and a more modern culture.

Now, I don't think that these acts in Canada or abroad are/were an indictment against Christianity, nor do I think the acts by "Islamic" empires are/were indictments against Islam.
Conquest isn't a religious only issue, but you CAN use religion for it.

Or is it a perfectly valid indictment against both religions?

BILL WARNER IS REDPILLED AS FUCK, THIS MAN IS A HERO

So I guess the question is... If it's been a multi thousand year battle of wits... Are we at the end of the struggle for dominance?

and beat her lel
youtube.com/watch?v=x7PpE15yh58&index=1&list=LLBOimEAar5Y4ljkKWRokXtQ

>30 posts by this ID

>blames the religion for it,

He actually does NOT talk about religion at all. He talks about Islam as a political doctrine.

Is it a problem I'm posting? usually I love you aussies...

Watch the video again.

It's cool selfbumps. People need to know about this.

My question is, how do we deal with it? Really. I'm going to use a le epic crusade pic, but seriously how can we stop Islam?

Tl;dr please summarize

I watched the video, Czechbro is right, you fucking leaf apologist cunt.

I don't know there is anything to be done about it. The regulars need to wake up to what a culture war is. The Russians, Chinese, et al know all to well... We've been winning it for decades...

>Islam is a constant Jihad
>It does not matter if you stop Islam in your lifetime, it will just come again
>Islam destroyed classical civilisation in its home, the Middle East
>Islam caused the Dark Ages and would have completely destroyed classical civilisation if not stopped in Europe
>The doctrine of Islam is 40% about being Muslim and 60% about how they treat you
>They treat you very badly. Massacre, rape, enslave you.

This is the basic gist of what you need to get from it. Everything he said was based off fact as well, not emotion. It is very important, you need to watch it sometime.

Well, you're both missing his point, then.

He's saying that Islam promotes expansionism and bloody conquest, even though that has been happening in that region before Islam as well. Conquest and expansion don't only happen in Islam, believe it or not. In fact, we see expansion by Russia, which doesn't cite Christianity as its motive.

He then only shows Crusades as the only example of Christian expansion, however, European nations which happen to be Christian took over most of the known world. Depopulating 2 entire continents (North and South America) and niggerizing a third one (Australia).

So, if we use this guy's own flawed interpretation and apply it to European Christian nations, the result looks much, MUCH worse.

Now, we know why conquest occurs. Leaders may use a religious overtones to justify it or to galvanise the population, but in reality, conquest is done for very real and secular reasons.

Take Hamas, for example. It has declared a Jihad against Israel. Why? Because they are being squeezed by Israel and see them as a predatory state. So, Hamas is just using Islam for the very real and secular goal of trying (and failing) to fight Israel.

Yes, you can read passages in Islam to help with the fight, but at the end of the day, it's just a fight between secular entities.

Were those nations motivated by Christianity, and did they specifically genocide for Christianity? Did they take slaves for Christian reasons? No, they didn't, you fucking leaf. They were done for truly secular reasons, as Christianity is not a political religion. Islam is a political religion. Their slavery, their massacres and all their atrocities and expansion were done by the sword, and they were done to emulate and continue the work of their prophet. Do not make the mistake of projecting innocence onto something you don't actually know anything about, and do not presumptively project your cultural values you grew up with on a culture that is completely different.

By the way, Europeans actually only depopulated one continent, and it was done because of disease that know one could have known about. And the Aboriginal population in Australia is higher than at the time of colonisation.

There's the aussie's I love...

Leaf absolutely BTFO, good job ausbro.