Trump mulls possible military invasion of Venezuela

Freedom is coming, Venezuela.

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>dumbass finally realizes he can't invade north korea
>oh shit better invade venezuela then, I need some distraction

Just idle talk.

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Trump couldn't pull his head out of his ass, and even if he could he would be cucked by the Supreme Court, the Federal Government, the establishment and the military and anyone with actual expertize on stuff.

All he can so is memepost in twitter and try to make it pass for the real world.

Eventually venting off in the virtual world without actual implementing of jackshit in the real one will stop making him and his fans feel good and we'll see what happens at that point.

Till then, Trump is just a buffon in a tv show.

Pure fiction.

>muh america first
>muh isolationism

MAGA amirite?

>The Supreme Court sets military policy

Trump has the authority under the War Powers Act to attack basically anyone he wants for up to sixty days without anyone else's permission. Is how Obama bombed Libya in 2011 without the consent of the GOP-controlled Congress.

I guess there's a lot more to that than just one man's will and feels as he wakes up in the morning. Like having the green light from the establishment -or actually more like doing what the establishment advices you to do.

lol he starts talking about military action on north Korea and now thinks he can solve all problems with it. lol,

>>look at Venezuela, can we threaten our way into fixing that too?

What are you talking about? All this adventurism is going to make America isolationist af before too long :^)

(Also, isolationism in the American sense just means staying out of the Eastern Hemisphere. Fucking with the Western Hemisphere is 100% allowed)

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That's a terrible idea and hadn't you had a Congress of imbeciles and the direct offspring of imbeciles I would have rejected it as a pipe dream.

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Good luck with that

FUCKING INVADE US ALREADY

I WANT TO BE AN AMERICAN CITIZEN

This is basic Trump strategy (not saying it's effective) but you keep everyone guessing so they can't figure out what the fuck is his real intent. He does it in pretty much everyone. It's similar to the pawnstars, you tell everyone they have (are shit) and they'll get nothing (invaded in this case) so they become pliable to something they'd originally reject. I'm not saying it's effective but for some idiots and desperate people it works (I'm looking at Maduro...he needs an out that doesn't involve his neighbors invading, him getting tried and hung).

>HILLARY IS A WARMONGER
>TRUMP IS AN ISOLATIONIST
>TRUMP IS FOR AMERICA FIRST
Eh oh el

Never gonna happen. Mexico is in the way.

Too bad. USA is just like a girl. She lust after those who hate her while rejecting all those who desire her.

>amerifats

Martyrdom is what Maduro gets out of America stepping into Venezuela. All left leaning paramilitary groups also get vindication for, if this happens, rightfully calling out right leaning governments American puppets.

>Trump couldn't pull his head out of his ass, and even if he could he would be cucked by the Supreme Court, the Federal Government, the establishment and the military and anyone with actual expertize on stuff.


>Trump won't win the Republican Nomination

>Trump will never be President

etc

I'm not a fan but he's so far destroyed every prediction against him. Sure he's failed but it's mainly because he makes the mistake of thinking lawmaking is like business (it's not) but he has almost carte blanche for a short period of time to invade a country.

I should clarify that this applies to all Latin America.

The entire Pacific Ocean was between you and the Philippines, yet you invaded that piece of shite. DO IT!! INVADE US!! I WILL LITERALLY JOIN YOUR ARMY

>he needs an out that doesn't involve his neighbors invading, him getting tried and hung

Not a chance in hell that would happen.

More like a mix of international political and economic pressure on the regime. In the end, it's up to the Venezuelans to choose their future (hopefully without a civil war happening)

Dude, just jump the border already while Americans are still "planning" their dumb wall, just make up a good story so you get refugee status and warm up to the idea of sucking coyote cock

Why go all the way to the U.S.? Mexico is a lot closer.

Mexico is an awful country full of violence

>cross mexico to go to the US
>zetas capture me in the desert
>they actually find out I have a decent amount of money and decide to ask for a ransom to my family
>family becomes broke
>go back to honduras

>decent amount of money
Just book a flight to Tijuana?

I disagree.

Also, invading Venezuela isn't like invading some little island in the Caribean. It would be a major shitshow, lots of american coffins coming back home with a flag on it and endless urban and jungle guerrila war, a big drain on your economy, and above all things, the best damn thing that could happen to Maduro as he would then appear as the Patriot leader rallying his country and people behind to fight the imperialist agression. Which would echo all over Latina America and the world indeed in the benefit of the Maduro-tier leaders around the world.

Again, massive Trump stupidity.

>they actually find out I have a decent amount of money

Then you probably shouldn't tell them you have money

>just means staying out of the Eastern Hemisphere

Aaaaaaaand Korea is in...

Not worth it.

They would found out some other way, I wouldn't tell them. Either way, they ask for ransom for a lot of people they capture.

I wanna get drafted to free them so I can capture a qt Venezuelan guy

Nah man, if he gets caught by zetas they will find out, only a dumb fuck tries crossing on the Texas border tho

foxnews.com/world/2016/11/17/migrants-flock-to-border-town-where-cartel-hires-burreros-to-smuggle-drugs-into.html

The Sinaloa cartel will provide guides, suplies and even pay them if they make it across

First he got two scoops, now he gets two wars? That's unfair, how many wars did Obama get?

Maduro is already bashing the "imperialism" of the US, using Mexico as an example of a lapdog country who does nothing against Trump, in order to deflect criticism towards his government into the classic "muh America is evil" communist meme.

But what is sad about all of this is that Trump is actually giving Maduro more fuel for this narrative, which aims ultimately at strengthening his grip over Venezuela even further. I think (and hope) that to no effect, given how fucking bad Maduro has been.

But man, Trump sure is trying to paint Maduro and Latin America as some sort of martyrs subjugated by the US.

At least five
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>I have a decent amount of money
Get a visa, fly to the US, and overstay. That is how most of the illegals get in anyway.

Venezuelans should be as rich as gulf arabs. They both have similar resources. Thanks to gommies they dont even have toilet paper or milk or meat. Maduro is even worse than chaves. he was bus driver or someshit. US should destroy regime

I approve of this. I think we as the #1 country in this place should invade it but I think people are too "war isn't for us". This country isn't serious.

Imagine having a refugee crisis, Syria style, in South America. Would be interesting to say the least desu.

They never diversify their industry
They make nothing but oil, and as we all know that isnt the black gold it used to be

Wew lad, does he think his presidency is a Civ marathon game?

>Not a chance in hell that would happen.
>More like a mix of international political and economic pressure on the regime. In the end, it's up to the Venezuelans to choose their future (hopefully without a civil war happening)

I agree but if it's believed he can he overthrown I doubt he'd have any friends. Maduro/Chavez allowed communist rebels from Columbia to hide within Venezuela's borders and claimed a majority of Ghana. You're telling me that you don't think his neighboring governments want him replaced?

I'm going to throw this out there but foreign national can join our army and receive the same pay as Americans for their rank. They won't be citizens but they will live in the u.s. or on foreign u.s. bases and get American pay....

Actually, while you don't need US citizenship to join the US armed forces they do require you hold legal residence aka a green card. They used to make exceptions but they no longer do that.

Anyone with a green card is already elligible to become a US national on just going through something like a decade's worth of paperwork so there's no real advantage there, joining the marines isn't going to speed that up.

And on just moral grounds, who the fuck is that desperate to serve a country that will deport you the second you step off the base for shore leave or whatever.

>who the fuck is that desperate to serve a country that will deport you the second you step off the base for shore leave or whatever
Why are you guys so weird about our immigration policy? It is 100% justifiable to deport an illegal resident, regardless of the circumstances. If you're not a citizen or legal resident, then we don't owe you a fucking thing within our borders.
I don't understand why Mexico doesn't feel the same way about illegals. They are, by definition, criminals.

>Also, invading Venezuela isn't like invading some little island in the Caribean. It would be a major shitshow, lots of american coffins coming back home with a flag on it and endless urban and jungle guerrila war, a big drain on your economy, and above all things, the best damn thing that could happen to Maduro as he would then appear as the Patriot leader rallying his country and people behind to fight the imperialist agression.

At this point, I think most of the population would just welcome us as liberators. At least the stores would have toilet paper again.

Socialism, kids. Never even once.

>Why are you guys so weird about our immigration policy?

They need the US as a place to unload their criminals and other unwanted scum.

>At least the stores would have toilet paper again.
No need for TP if you're not pooping, and you're not pooping if you can't eat. Socialism works!

>implying we're not america's bitch
lol

PLEASE invade Venezuela, PLEASE

>At this point, I think most of the population would just welcome us as liberators.
lmao

Americans will NEVER stop thinking this will happen, no matter how many times it doesn't happen.

In what way did my post imply otherwise?
But this "yes America, please spit on me because muh NAFTA" is fairly recent. As recent as NAFTA itself, with centuries of Anti-Americanism behind our history.

Venezuela also has incredibly high oil reserves so maybe that's why Trump wants to 'intervene'

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It was explained in this thread why there's no chance of a Castro or Chavez happening in Mexico.

Remove the proxy, Pytor.

As a Venezuelan who had to flee the country, I welcome this notion. Give em hell Trump.

How did you escape?

I flew in and was granted asylum.

Flew into the US? How does it work?

Do you just get here and say you're fleeing a hostile country?

What is Maduro like?

or maybe because theres people getting killed there daily basis over the tyrannical regime and the said regime actively opposes democratic process. if usa, the posterboy country of liberty and freedom, lets things like those happen in such close proximity it makes them look weak.

>As a Venezuelan who had to flee the country
yeah sure
get fucked you traitor piece of shit

stay out of this you fat fucks!!! not your battle and not your oil!!

Are you on the telegram group?

>tfw right wing
>tfw still dont approve of trump invading venezuela

sorry folks maduro did nothing wrong

Yeah flew into the U.S. and had to go through a lengthy process with immigration that background checks and proving ones persecution. While they processed all my documents I was granted stay and once that was done and validated I was given residence.

kys

I don't know who is more retarded maduro or trump

lol haha
le drink bleach senpai amirite?
epic memes

*involved.

Nah, not aware of what that is.

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What the fuck are you on about. I'd rather carry on with my life and pursue life goals instead of getting shot by some random commie nigger in the street. The protests won't overthrow the government. People echo civil war but that's never going to happen considering both the military and police are siding with Maduro and they're the only side with guns. The only way for Venezuela to be free is through military intervention.

They had problem propping up dictatorships in Latin America before

Fyi you think any one besides maduro's goons will fight for him

why do Americans always think their opponents will simply roll over for them? is it bravado or an actual belief that they can invade a country and people will line the streets with american flags welcoming them?

The world wants to be American, we will deliver, and give the people of the world what they want.

you guys haven't even finished with Afghanistan yet. almost 16 years later.

Only like ten percent of the population support the guy. The majority of the population has been out in the streets for months asking for his resignation. This isn't another Iraq/Afghanistan.

The countries completely turned to rubble. It's either you live and accept your American overlords or you don't live at all, sorry sweetie.

>Muslims get riled up and travel to isis, Afghanistan, Israel to blow themselves up and kill fellow Muslims.

Im not seeing an issue here.

you are mistaking Maduro's popularity with support for an invasion. the two are not similar. Just because the people do not like their leader and want a change, does not mean they will support a foreign government putting boots in the ground on their sovereign country to oust him. in fact this might galvanize more people into maduro's camp and split the country into civil war.

but america are the good guys

how does that even make sense? you turn the country into rubble and more people support the forces that you are fighting. further entrenching the state into constant warfare while your own forces are dying and hemorrhaging money.

it's costing you money and american lives.

True it might, I think it'll play more like the Panama invasion and be quick. I say that because I think the people realize they've exhausted all their ways to oust the guy and there's no other way but to have the U.S. intervene.

>how does that even make sense? you turn the country into rubble and more people support the forces that you are fighting. further entrenching the state into constant warfare while your own forces are dying and hemorrhaging money.
It's giving people a choice between the cross and the bullet. Afghanistan and it's anal raping was a world wide example to other powers that might think about rejecting their American masters. Venezuela should learn from that example and open their gates wide open.

>The world wants to be American, we will deliver
Being this much of an illiterate lower class fatass

i think you are underestimating the anti-imperialist mentality of Venezuela. These people elected Hugo Chavez, it's a socialist hotbed with anti-capitalist tendencies. having America, the poster child for capitalism, put boots on the ground will literally split the country into civil war and destabilize the region. this will also reinforce the image of America as an imperialist in Latin america. I don't think we can conflate Maduro's popularity with support for American intervention.

right and which countries fell in line after Afghanistan? North Korea? Iran? Russia? China? nobody did mate, they are all actually laughing at America for getting themselves in such a quagmire with no escape.

"These people" are a small minority. Most of the chavistas have dissociated themselves with the Maduro regime (Look at the key member like Luisa Ortega).

:^)
Why is your country named after food btw?

Mexico actually has harsher immigration policies than the US, and they actually use strict quotas to maintain their 'demographic' (read: racial) makeup.

That being said, all the Mexican illegals are slowly but surely leaving the US anyway, and Trump is only speeding this up. North American natural gas and oil is making manufacturing profitable in Mexico so there's actually a ton of incentive to go back instead of staying in the US and working dead-end agricultural jobs.

Again, you are conflating Maduro's unpopularity with support for foreign intervention.

i don't like my leader, that doesn't mean i will support a foreign government coming in to remove him.

>North Korea?
They're being propped up by China.
>Iran
Failed state that's going to collapse in a civil war eventually doesn't propose a threat to anybody but themselves.
>Russia
America singehandedly jewed the Soviet Union into collapsing. What do you think?
>China
I'll give you that.

Yet none of those countries have bent the knee to the USA based on its actions of Afghanistan, read the context of the conversation.


>>It's giving people a choice between the cross and the bullet. Afghanistan and it's anal raping was a world wide example to other powers that might think about rejecting their American masters.

I listed 4 countries that continue to defy America despite Afghanistan being used as an 'example'.

>I listed 4 countries that continue to defy America despite Afghanistan being used as an 'example'.
And how many of them remain successful?

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