Obviously I understand why no one wants to do it but I think after all these years the time is right. ‘Downfall/Der Untergang’ was okay but I would like to see a proper biopic, starting from childhood, moving through the war years, watching him rise up during the twenties. In fact, I wouldn’t even bother with WWII, I would end the film just with him coming to power.
This is the final scene:
(Adolf and Eva are sitting in an awkwardly silent room, alone together. Eva reaches for his hand, but Adolf pulls away uncomfortably. He stares at the wall, as if he is wishing her to disappear.)
EVA: Don’t you love me, Adolf?
ADOLF: …of… of course I do. I love all the German people.
Now a “Godfather Baptism” montage of the Reichstag burning, the Night of the Long Knives, SA troopers on the streets, Goebbels shouting propaganda, Rommel staggering around on opium, etc. With music from Wagner. An epic opera, in the true Hitler fashion.
Also, I think the film should be totally impartial. You don’t need to slant things to make Hitler look bad, he makes himself look bad with his own actions. Just show events as they actually happened. Don’t glorify him but don’t be preachy either. The most important thing is that he should be the protagonist of the film.
why would anyone want to paint one of history's most infamous monsters in a sympathetic light
Grayson Perez
>why would anyone want to paint one of history's most infamous monsters in a sympathetic light
Are you really asking that question?
Thomas Torres
Because at the end of the day he was a human being doing what he thought was right for his people.
Angel Murphy
controversy breeds success, imagine the amount of butthurt in the media? they wouldn't even need an advertising campaign if they hit front page news.
Luis Cruz
>…of… of course I do. I love all the German people. >Wenn der Krieg verloren geht, wird auch das Volk verloren sein. […] Es sei nicht notwendig, auf die Grundlagen, die das Volk zu seinem primitivsten Weiterleben braucht, Rücksicht zu nehmen. Im Gegenteil sei es besser, selbst diese Dinge zu zerstören. Denn das Volk hätte sich als das schwächere erwiesen und dem stärkeren Ostvolk gehöre dann ausschließlich die Zukunft. Was nach dem Kampf übrigbliebe, seien ohnehin nur die Minderwertigen; denn die Guten seien gefallen. What did he mean by this?
David Lopez
Yeah, but no studio would want to distribute it.
Jeremiah Fisher
why would anyone with any sense or film making acumen want to paint one of history's most infamous monsters in a sympathetic light*
you're just oversimplifying him. jewish germans were also "his people" as were other minorities that were put into camps and murdered.
Kevin Young
>camps >3 >2 >1 Sup Forums-time
Eli Flores
Have you watched "Hitler: The Rise of Evil"
>Also, I think the film should be totally impartial. You don’t need to slant things to make Hitler look bad, he makes himself look bad with his own actions.
It tries really hard to present Hitler in a bad light. Obviously it succeeds because it's fucking easy. Still it's nicely detailed and not too over the top.
Jeremiah Campbell
>non-Germans were also Germans A rat born in a stable is a horse too right?
Dominic Taylor
Obviously he didn't consider jews to be his people. TBQH I don't either.
Zachary Perez
>monster
Carson Wilson
That's a good one, I'm keeping that.
Zachary Rodriguez
Pretty sure there is a biopic of him that starts with his childhood. I remember seeing it on German tv a few years ago, but it's been so long I forgot what it was called. It was a very long film.
Owen James
>jewish germans were also "his people" They weren't though. Other minorities yes, but Jews have always been very secluded and elitist.
Jose Myers
what defines a "german" please explain
he blamed them for everything as his scapegoat for why germany lost the great war
people using that as justification for hating jews is beyond idiotic. your average jewish person is no fucking different than anyone else just trying to put bread on the table
Adam Young
It was a british film that was really fucking bad, "Hitler: Rise of Evil / Aufstieg des Bösen".
Right, Jews were oppressed across all of Europe and the Middle East just for being normal guys, right?
They didn't deserve the Holocaust at all, but you're being delusional if you don't think they fuck around in the countries they inhabit.
Parker Ward
Painting monsters in sympathetic light is a great literary strategy and it would work just as well in film. Stop being such a moralfag.
Dylan Roberts
Here you go:
Since the mid-20th century, the world has only ever heard one side of an incredible story. The story of a boy from an ordinary family whose ambition it was to become an artist, but who instead became a drifter.
His destiny however was not to drift into the awaiting oblivion, but to rise to the greatest heights of power, eventually to become one of the most influential men who ever lived.
Now for the first time, here is a documented account of a story many believe to be…
Yeah that's it, it had that cartoonishly evil name, no wonder it got on German tv, they wouldn't show anything that's not partial.
Aaron Rodriguez
There's one on his political career until before being chancellor, it's actually not bad, hits all the major historical notes. The acting isn't the best though.
Samuel Cox
I really just want to see somebody cover his time as an Austrian corporal in the trenches of WWI.
You just described a perfect material for a movie actually
Xavier Price
>Sup Forumstards are so dumb they don't know what a biopic is
William Diaz
Eh, Downfall was financed by us as well (even though it wasn't a TV special like Das Boot). it was on RTL II, of course there'll be trash on it
Lincoln Brown
>acting like Mein Kampf is popular reading material You're deluded
Justin Gonzalez
As long as they include the part where he does requiem for a dream levels of blow and essentially fucks up the entire war by making contradictory command decisions on the eastern front while high as a kite.
A truly accurate film portrayal of Hitler would probably dissuade a lot of neo-nazi's from continuing to like him, if they were willing to acknowledge the history accuracy of just how incompetent he truly was.
Andrew Bennett
> literally the most popular book in Germany right now
Aaron Smith
it was I thought the movie bent over backwards to show how Hitler was a crazed maniac, when even mainstream historians say he was a normal guy, even during his beer hall speeches.
It made me like Hitler more, imo >inb4 Sup Forums It showed how much he cared for his country, compared to the greedy politicians who set him up, hell, the only jew in the movie was portrayed as a conniving culture corrupting arsehole.
Tyler Rodriguez
You should understand a man's motives before start making statements about them, regardless of what your personal thoughts may be. He put it all out there, plain as day.
Nicholas Morgan
ironically my german far right friends love that film
Logan Bennett
It literally is though. What the fuck is your metric for popularity if meinkampf isn't it
Jayden Hughes
Oh, so I must assume you tvtards only want make believe fairy tales you can believe in... like the laughingly inaccurate propaganda piece, "Shindler's List".
Brandon Ortiz
Didn't you guys see Max?
Connor Rodriguez
No, what you posted was a documentary, not a biopic.
Pretty simple.
Cameron Russell
>not knowing Downfall is based on a book by Joachim fest >one of the most famous Hitler scholars You guys seriously need some fucking education. Especially the poltards.
Samuel Cooper
Oh, didn't know that senpai
I agree, he really fucked up big time, should have just been content with Austria and Sudetenland
Bentley Gray
>Downfall/Der Untergang’ That movie was good, but I kind of liked The Last Ten Days with Alec Guinness better.
Levi Flores
I thought it was ok, but it should've been a Young Hitler: The Film, instead of being about this bromance between Max and Adolf.
Aiden Cox
From your own link >By the Middle Ages, large numbers of Jews lived in the Holy Roman Empire and had assimilated into German culture, including many Jews who had previously assimilated into French culture and had spoken a mixed Judeo-French language.[42] Upon assimilating into German culture, the Jewish German peoples incorporated major parts of the German language and elements of other European languages into a mixed language known as Yiddish
Christopher Thomas
>it's a be a right-wing fascist but fellow Sup Forumstards insist on idolizing a failed junkie statesman who delivered europe to the bolscheviks episode
Adam Sullivan
>reading Mein Kampf >Hitler fucks up punctuation, grammar, foreign names and writes "Progrom" again and again Dude was literally retarded
Dylan Long
>Implying bolshevik control is bad at all whatsoever
Nathaniel Robinson
>this
Levi Roberts
prove it
>they didn't deserve the holocaust at all
a modicum of reason i didn't expect
hitler is in his own class of monsters though
same for stalin and i'm unaware of any "neutral" films about stalin
Landon Perez
he probably dictated it though so Rudolf Heß is to blame for most of the mistakes, except maybe grammar
Aaron Hughes
Look up Max on imdb >Thread: Did Hitler have a mustache >OY VEY GOYIM REMEMBER THE 6 GORILLION
Imdb never disappoints
Adrian Green
Ergo, I was correct. What you delusional tards want is a scripted, dramatized, inaccurate, "based on a true story" screenplay that reinforces the twisted, perverted "history" you learned from hollyweird and jewish indoctrination for the last 70 years.
Right. I get it. You're not interested in truth... just entertainment in the form of biased propaganda.
Levi Long
That's a myth tho. Also his Second Book is as fucked up as Mein Kampf. >Hitler schrieb 1924 den ersten Teil von Mein Kampf während seiner Festungshaft in der Haftanstalt Landsberg in Landsberg am Lech. Er soll den Text seinem späteren Stellvertreter Rudolf Heß diktiert haben.[4] Neuere Erkenntnisse weisen darauf hin, dass Hitler den Text selbst auf einer Reiseschreibmaschine tippte.[5] Winifred Wagner berichtete, Hitler „massenhaft Schreibpapier“ nach Landsberg geschickt zu haben.[6]
Give me a better Hitler movie than "Er ist wieder da". You literally can't. That scene where the jewish grandma recognised him was pretty heavy in the movie though.
Nolan Wilson
>Six hours long
Proof that Sup Forumstards are basically just the right wing equivilent of tumblrites with their unedited 2hr+ rants about cis privilege.
Why can't political radicals learn to fucking edit their shit. As it stands, only someone who already believed hitler was a gud boy dindu nuffin would watch all of that shit which means it exists soley as a self-indulgent addition to a circlejerk.
Benjamin Moore
tfw paul verhoeven will die before he gets to make his hitler biopic
Ethan Hill
OP specifically asked for a biopic, i.e. a dramatization.
Sup Forums is down the hall and to the left.
Nicholas Ward
How does this make you feel? >Trump was raised Presbyterian.[78] Before her wedding, in July 2009, after studying for over a year[79] with Rabbi Elie Weinstock from the Modern Orthodox Ramaz School, she converted to Orthodox Judaism[80][81][82] and took the Hebrew name "Yael".[83][84] She describes her conversion as an “amazing and beautiful journey” and that her father supported her studies from day one, due to his respect for the Jewish religion.[43] She attests to keeping a kosher diet and observing the Jewish Sabbath, saying in 2015: "We're pretty observant... It's been such a great life decision for me... I really find that with Judaism, it creates an amazing blueprint for family connectivity. From Friday to Saturday we don't do anything but hang out with one another. We don't make phone calls."[72] Trump sends her daughter to kindergarten at a Jewish school in New York City. She says that “It’s such a blessing for me to have her come home every night and share with me the Hebrew that she’s learned and sing songs for me around the holidays."[43]
Kayden Price
I've read Mein Kampf. It's boring as shit and doesn't tell you anything you wouldn't already know if you'd made even a casual study of National Socialist politics.
Naziboos holding it up like it's some sort of revolutionary tome of knowledge are fucking deluded.
Owen Clark
>uses biased wikipedia as reference
Assimilation is a no-no in the jewish religion... or didn't you know that?
Isaac Ortiz
Commie swine
>Hitler is in his own class of monsters though
Lel, not really, there have been plenty of crazy leaders since and before killing millions, people just don't care because they are subhuman browns and didn't start a world war.
You're a fucking retard who doesn't even deserve to speak on the matter. It's nearly 6 hours long because it covers much of WWI, Hitlers Rise to power, the rise of Communism, WWII, the aftermath of the war, and later history after the war.
If this is too much for you, then you should probably kys.
Ryder Long
You used that link your imbecile.
Connor Edwards
What qualifies as assimilated in the middle ages is a far cry from what you're thinking of when you use the word today. The assimilation that we think about in the modern era only started happening in the 18th century with the Haskalah movement and the legal emancipation of the Jews.
Medieval german cities worked in a way that seems very strange to us these days. Perhaps the strangest thing to us would be the fact that your citizenship in the city was at the pleasure of the city government. So, say you're a journeyman baker and you want to set up shop in Cologne. They're going to check and see if they need another baker, they're going to examine your letters of reference from previous masters, they're going to see if you're an asshole, and they're going to decide to allow you into the city or not. If you're lucky then maybe the guild will back you up.
Jews generally tried to live in cities that were "free imperial cities" (i.e. cities where the local government reported to the emperor rather than a king) because it greatly decreased their chances of being banned from the cities outright. Frankfurt is probably the biggest settlement of Jews for that era. And although it says assimilated, let me remind you that Jews were restricted to residing in a particular street (when you see a street named Judengasse in Germany, you're where they used to be), they had to wear special clothes (although this wasn't just for Jews, German cities had fairly elaborate dress codes for everyone that made social class and even occupation easily visible), and occasionally there would be riots where they got beaten up or killed. They were integrated insofar as they had interaction with the German locals, but compared to modern Turks in Germany (a group commonly accused of non-integration) they weren't assimilated at all.
Adam Morales
>being triggered this hard top lel Jonathan
Jack Sanchez
i remember one time in 7th grade we found a kid's backpack that he must have left from another class and started going through it and it had a copy of mein kampf and like swastikas and stuff drawn on notebooks. we reported him to the principal and he got suspended. i hope it was somebody on Sup Forums.
Nathaniel Moore
I'm not #triggered, just annoyed.
Jason Walker
Where?
Michael Gonzalez
He wasn't a very attractive or charismatic man, even by German standards, but when he spoke, people felt the raw passion in his voice, a man who truly cared about his people, his land, his vision. Sure, his leadership lead to some terrible things, but i've always been impressed by men like him, proof that no matter how much of an ugly little manlet you are, with enough confidence, you can still have the most alpha of males licking your boots and dying for you at the end of the day.
Mason Richardson
>Why no proper Hitler biopic yet? There are numerous ones. Unless you're one of those edgy contrarians that thinks he went to Bolivia.
Jaxon Allen
Are you retarded? The word "Endlösung" concerning the Jews already appeared in the 19th century. And we have plenty of documents from 1940 of Nazis using it. Your one crazy racist Jew doesn't change that.
Logan Evans
I really think that a miniseries might be more effective.
120 minutes isn't really enough to tell the story in anything but the most superficial fashion
Josiah Gomez
trace the fucking chain back. How fucking new are you?
Matthew Hernandez
I watched the first hour, which basically just parrotted Goebbel's official biography as though it was objective truth rather than state propaganda and left it there.
It's needlessly verbose, the whole thing could be condensed down to at most three hours if they weren't so desperate to reitterate 'facts' constantly in the hopes repeated and confident assertions will cover up the complete lack of objective sources.
Eli Allen
>EVA: Don’t you love me, Adolf? >ADOLF: …of… of course I do. I love all the German people.
this is implying he's gay right?
Evan Baker
He was also a virgin
Justin Edwards
He was a postman.
Thomas Reyes
>Sure, his leadership lead to some terrible things, but i've always been impressed by men like him, proof that no matter how much of an ugly little manlet you are, with enough confidence, you can still have the most alpha of males licking your boots and dying for you at the end of the day.
This, it's pretty damn impressive what he achieved, I suppose it also had something to do with great timing, luck or destiny, considering he came at a time Germany had just gotten it's shit pushed in.
The Jewish Question has also been used for over 100 years, and the Vatican addressed Jewish cultural subversion, does this mean everyone is looking to Endlösung the Yids?
Michael Ross
>You're not allowed an opinion unless you watch my six hour masturbatory """documentary"""" on the subject
yeah, because it's so well researched and definitive on the subject it renders all others irrelevent?
kys
Bentley Allen
> 6 hour long horribly edited and narrated by awful voice actors Dog, that shit was amateur as fuck
Jayden Cruz
This is true tho. At least we don't have a single report on a healthy sexual relationship. All the women around him apparently killed themselves.
Lincoln Sanchez
It means your shitty Sup Forums-pic is 100% worthless and wrong.
Wyatt Long
Hitler: The Rise of Evil is good.
Zachary Ortiz
I'm not that guy famalam
Christian Gonzalez
of course he was charismatic. you don't get to become one of the most powerful men in the world if you don't have charisma. the fact that he was such a great speaker is evidence of his charisma by the way. he had great presence.
Ian Williams
ok bud
Wyatt Robinson
Yeah, starting the deadliest war in human history is impressive. And of course, splitting the country in two for almost fifty years is just as great. He truly was a great leader.
Damn you wehraboos are dumb dumbs
Ryder Walker
You don't know what you're talking about. I would never use wikipedia as a reference. It is clearly stated in wikipedia's own guidlines that wikipedia is not a reliable source of information.
And what's with the Trump tweet? You're clearly a mentally challenged individual, obsessed with your own delusional fantasies.
Justin Long
>is not a reliable source of information. >posts Sup Forums macros You want me to quote my Oldenburg Grundrisse der Geschichte handbook? Cause I can easily do this but since you don't have a library card it won't do you any good.
Brandon Lee
Hitler didn't start the war, you goof. Poland did, by its horrific treatment of Germans in Poland.
Hitler invaded Poland in order to come to the aid of his people, who were being brutally massacred by the Poles.
Nathan Lewis
>a man who truly cared about his people, his land, his vision.
So much so he kept them fighting, even sending boys and eldery men into combat and against the advice of his generals, long after any hope of victory had passed, thus allowing the Red Army to occupy half of Germany and sack Berlin.
Nothing to do with his monumental ego and hubris. No, he allowed Germany to be destroyed rather than surrender to the western Allies because he 'truly cared' so much.
Nathan Peterson
>The two dates most often mentioned as “the beginning of World War II” are July 7, 1937, when the “Marco Polo Bridge Incident” led to a prolonged war between Japan and China, and September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, which led Britain and France to declare war on Hitler's Nazi state in retaliation.
Camden James
That's not what I said you dumb liberal faggot. How about you lurk more before posting another one of your bowel movements, you bagel salesman.
Asher Cox
Inaccurate as fuck, why they felt the need to resort to unsupported character assassination when there's plenty of well documented shit about him is beyond me.
Not even a Naziboo, but come on. Hitler was a vegetarian and a renowned animal lover, particularly of dogs, and that has him abusing a puppy purely to make sure the audience is aware he's EXTRA evil.
Guy was a cunt, but I seriously doubt he ever beat a puppy.
Luis Smith
I want you to post nudes of Laura
Eli Richardson
>derailing the thread after being BTFO good riddance naziboo
