Admiral we've got the Death Star plans. Should we broadcast them to the rest of the fleet?

>Admiral we've got the Death Star plans. Should we broadcast them to the rest of the fleet?
>No, tell them to jump away first even though we're literally the only ship that matters.
>Oh shit, a Star Destroyer appeared and now we're alone and defenseless, should we broadcast the plans now?
>No, put them on a floppy disk and hand deliver it to the ship docked to us for no reason.
>Admiral your battleplans are truly Rogue One.™

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It was a different time

>broadcast
Was that a thing in space 70s?

it was explained that the plans take a long time to transmit. Also
>implying the Empire wasn't jamming non tactical transmissions

Do you have any idea how much bandwidth the plans for a 5 million cubic mile space station would take up?

do we see any examples of FTL transmissions in the OT? The only thing I can actually think of is the Emperor broadcasting to Vader, but maybe that could be handwaved away as "muh force"

If it weren't for the prequels obviously having it aplenty, a sole physical copy of the plans could actually make sense

What kind of time was it?

A different one

just gzip them

How did Admiral Ackbar show up in Return of the Jedi if he died in Rogue One?

the movie goes out of its way several times to explain that the files take a long time to transmit by normal means. the only reason they were transmitted fairly quickly from the planet is because of the fuckhuge radar that Cassian had a 30 second "what is that for" conversation with Bodhi about as they're descending to the landing pad

transmitting the plans to other ships would be the equivalent of sharing a movie rip on dial up. much smarter and quicker to put it on a flash drive

seriously if you didn't pick up on this you are borderline retarded

Must have been at least 16kb.

Obviously not him. Ackbar is like red, that Cali is blue.

I read his entire article on wookiepedia, I'm pretty sure I know what I'm talking about. Don't get pedantic with me, kid.

>78274919
i konw you're baiting but
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wouldn't the empire pick up the transmission as well, learn of their own weakness and fix it, or formulate a counter strategy?

Raddus is just his first name.

its just a movie bro

how come nobody noticed the mexican guy wasn't an imperial officer despite no other imperial ever having a beard

They had the plans for as long as it took to build the thing and still didn't find shit.

How was anyone supposed to know what the weakness in the death star was when everyone who knew died?

It clearly wasn't something obvious and they had no indication of where to even look.

Shit movie

They had the plans the whole time and knew Galen built in a defect, but they weren't aware of exactly where the defect had been placed

It wouldn't have helped at all, unless the Admiral was a retard and added a sticky note to the file that said "look for ways to disrupt the reactor" in the 2 minutes he had access to the file

Only if the rebels have analyzed the plans and then annotated plans to show the weak points already.

My understanding is that the chain of custody was
Few surviving bothans -> Leia -> R2D2 -> Rebel HQ (where they were analyzed and a weakness found)

>Few surviving bothans
Manny Bothans didn't survive

It's like when you print a term paper and suddenly see a few typos. 3D printing is going to absolutely fill the landfills with shit that needs a last few touches.

kek, night Sup Forums is always the best.

But it's not a term paper it's a moon sized infrastructure so "analyzing" where the problem would be means having a better understanding of it than the architect. Analyzing thousands of square miles. Which is so stupid because it was designed to be hidden from said architect's peers, obviously well hidden. Or else in the same time it took the rebels to analyze it one of the dozens of engineers should have noticed a flaw. Therefore the only way to reasonably ever know this secret is to be told not given the blueprints.

PROBABLY why Galen tried to deliver a message describing all this instead of just the plans.

It's finding a needle in a hay stack

Like every resolution in this stupid film, deus ex machina the movie

Jyn tells the Rebel Alliance the reactor is the defect while she's making her case to go to Scarriff

Once the plans are delivered by Luke, Han, and Leia in ANH they look for the easiest way to do blow up the reactor. They could've done this any number of ways, Galen wasn't the only designer of the space station and didn't necessarily think the vent was the magic way to blow it up.

An alternate plan would probably be to try to land a bunch of troops in the station itself and have them all rush to set up bombs in the reactor area. This method wasn't pursued because 1) Death Star had shields that would've made landing basically impossible, assuming ships made it past all the turrets and 2) bombing the reactor from the inside would be a suicide mission in all likelyhood and they were fresh off a suicide mission to steal the plans in the first place

This. And then Kerrick wants to fucking shoot Galen instead of torturing the information out of him? Christ what a joke

Nobody even believed what she was saying. But granting the reach that someone was actually listening to her and remembered, and that they determined an exhaust vent was the best way to attack the ship, it's beyond stupid that they based this information on third hand heresay. It was a suicide mission no matter what manner of attack they made on the death star and what if they had been wrong about the reactor? Oh well. Because there was surely nothing in the plans to indicate a weak reactor or the other engineers would eventually notice.

It's terrible writing to have a series of a hundred unlikely scenarios relying on the others.

Why the hell was princess Leia on that ship in the first place? wouldn't you want your princess to be somewhere safe so she doesn't like die or something?

probe droid reporting the rebel base

the dead bothans were for Death Star 2 not DS1 iirc

"call in the kamikaze ship"

in war you must walk the path of death, essentially they all are kamikaze

How did C3PO and R2D2 get on Princess Leia's ship

it was attached to Admiral Raddus' flagship who had already left Yavin IV when we see R2D2 and C3PO in the hangar

for a movie that leans so heavily on setting up ANH they fucked up pretty bad

they didn't know what they were looking for in the plans, the Rebels did.

The Rebels knew the Reactor module had a fatal flaw and any pressurized explosion would set of a chain reaction. So the Rebels just needed the plans to find an access point to the reactor that they could use. Which they found, the thermal exhaust port.

During the battle of Yavin, imperial engineers analyzed the attack of the rebels and compared them to the structural readouts of the station and realized "hey they're flying down this trench that leads to a thermal exhaust port.. where does that exhaust port go to? Oh.. the reactor module, THEN they realize how many other subsystems that module is linked to and find the vulnerability.

But without knowing where to look first.. it'd have taken them years to uncover the weakness, and they only learned a weakness existed days prior.

Leia was on her way to Tatooine to contact Obi-Wan and try to get him involved with the Rebellion more. She planned on hitching a ride over to Tatooine on Profundity because Tantive IV isn't built for long-distance travel or hyperspeed. She was on her way there and presumably would've undocked from the main ship and finished the journey to Tatooine a little ways out of the system. At this point her mission was simply to see if Obi-Wan would come help the Rebellion, she had nothing to do with the Death Star readout. That was the plan anyway.

What happened instead is that while she was en route to Tatooine, the Rogue Rebels picked a fight with the Empire and Profundity had to be redirected to Scarriff to help in the battle. This change happened super quickly and there was no time to prepare Tantive IV for an earlier than expected deployment, so Leia tagged along. You'll notice that when Profundity joins the Scarriff space battle, they have literally a minute or two to organize Blue Team to head to the surface before the shield closed. There literally was not time for them to drop Leia off before jumping into hyperspeed to join the battle.

Next, Profundity ended up with the plans and intended to return to the Rebel base, where presumably Leia would've turned back around and tried to get back to Tatooine for Obi-Wan again. The bulk of the Rebel fleet retreats before Profundity does. Vader arrives at the perfect time to disable the lone Profundity.

Rebels are now shitting bricks because their only copy of the plans is about to be taken back. In that chaos they made a quick choice to deploy Tantive IV with the plans to try to use the "it was a diplomatic mission" excuse. Vader calls bullshit and searches Tantive. Leia quickly decides to send the plans with a droid to Tatooine (where she meant to go the whole time) and hopes Obi-Wan will give her a 2 for 1 deal and help get the plans back.

The whole sequence is a series of snap reactions to previous choices

>plans too large of a file to broadcast over wireless without the citadel's satellite dish
>plans small enough to fit on a 1.44MB floppy disk

>Obi-Wan literally was their only hope to get the plans back

pottery

There was only like one Star Destroyer that Vader came with right?

Why didn't the fleet just fight back against it after destroying 2 with ease?

Thanks for clearing that up. Where did you get that info from though?

There were 3 Hammerheads in this battle. You can clearly see that all three warp away.

Clearly because they had a plan of attack going into the battle above Scariff but were completely caught off guard by the Vader's Star Destroyer arriving out of lightspeed. Also it looks like enough of the fleet had already made it out in time when it arrived, so their defences were cut in half.

> rebel leader asks where admiral is
> someone tells her that he's "returned to his ship" and wants to fight
> cuts to the Yavin IV hanger, where 3PO and R2D2 have overlong, obnoxious cameo as rebel fighters hurry to catch up with admiral
> the blockade runner from ANH is docked with admiral's flagship, and was docked when the ship jumped into the system

So how did 3PO and R2D2 get on the blockade runner in time for the events of ANH? This is a pretty serious continuity error

>Galen placed a small, hard to find, weak spot on the Death Star in Rogue One
>It was so hard to find that the Imperials didn't pick it up until the Rebels were actually aiming for it in Star Wars Episode IV A New Hope

>30 Years Later


First Order places Humongous weak point on the surface of Star Killer Base, it's so fucking obvious that even a sewage technician like Finn knows how to exploit it in Star Wars Episode VII The Force Awakens

Way 2 Go Disney
Bravo JJ Abrams

You have kept up the legacy of George Lucas's inconsistent plots and outright hackery

BONTHANS WERENT IN THE FIRST DEATH STAR

Starkiller had practically impenetrable shields, so they didn't give a fuck.

this

Instant Transmission technique. Learned on planet Yardrat.

Honestly, the only fuck up I've noticed is the unnecessary shot with the droids on Yavin. Everything else mentioned ITT is covered in the movie.

>let's use this spaceship to push this other spaceship into this other spaceship
>strategy is never used again

Confirmed for never watched ESB. Retard.

>impenetrable
But the shield got penetrated though. Pay attention retard.

It was cool though.

They put all their funding into making it big with a long range, even though it was built sloppily.

>and they only learned a weakness existed days prior
did they even?
as far as I recall Jynn only told Krennic about it, who died moments later

I actually think Tarkin and Vader probably thought they were going to use the plans to prove the existence of the Death Star to the senate

>but maybe that could be handwaved away as "muh force"
No, a hologram can not be handwaved away as "muh force".

They were aware, I mean that's why Krennic was sent to find the schematics, to search for any sabotage done by Galen. They were aware that the defecting pilot had information on the station and he came from Galen's facility. So they knew that Galen was a breach. They just didn't know exactly what he did. Even in Episode IV Imperials say that the Rebels could "find a weakness... and exploit it."

So they're aware that something is up. Just not sure exactly what it is until it's too late.

post source or stop talking

>practically

learn english paco

>used a transmission tower to beam the information aboard the ship
>don't just beam it to the entire fleet


Truly Rouge One

Leia's dad is in the movie only to say he's going to send somebody he trusts more than anyone else to contact his old Jedi friend

Obviously she was on her way to Tattooine then, but then she's right there on that ship

It's that simple

>B-but the rebels had to keep the weakness a secret
Do you guys know what encryption is?

Leia's dad is in the movie only to spend 90 seconds murdering her friends and almost catching her

thats actually pretty good

>because why use one bargain basement plot device when you can have three?

Hell, why not a dozen?

This realization makes everything in rogue one okay with me

Still waiting for a decent copy to land

I watched this in the cinema and these third rate CAM copies don't do that scene justice

>Tantive IV isn't built for long-distance travel or hyperspeed

BULLSHIT

It made the journey from Polis Massa, to Naboo and then onto Alderaan

It also went into hyperspace in the final scene of Rogue One

That's just the dumbed down version for the braindead, disposable pilots.

rebellions are built on hope

manny bothans dies getting plans for deathstar 2

did you not watch the fucking movie and yet shitpost about it anyways?

Has anyone mapped out alderan, tattooine, yavin and the database planet to see if the routes make sense

They beamed to whoever was listening.
Which was the rebel flag

Why wouldnt they also jam tacticool transmissions? Are they retarded?

I chuckled.

People used to put effort into their baits.

also by the end of the battle of scariff ... Deflector shield's down to less than 50%