ITT: the worst film in a franchise
can't believe, going in, producers thought Jinx might have been good enough to have a spin-off
and as for Bond imo:
>best
Goldfinger
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
>worst
Die Another Day
Moonraker
>underrated
Quantum of Solace
The World Is Not Enough
>overrated
Goldeneye
Skyfall
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The intro was great for Die Another Day, gave me hope the movie would be awesome, plus the Hovercraft Chase music track is some of the best Bond music since John Barry.
The rest of the film was shit though ;_;
Damn. Im afraid to ask about the Jinx spinoff.
Also can someone explain to me why OHMSS is so well regarded here? I never 'got it'
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First half is good, shits the best when they get to the ice palace. Jynx is lame but not as bad as Stacey in AVTAK
Also Moonraker while ridiculous is a hoot-and-a-half. A roller coaster ride of charming silliness
And the most overrated Bond movie is easily Casino Royale, nothing even comes close to the amount of undeserved praise it receives
amazing score, great Bond girl, cool winter Alps setting, good writing, directing and Lazenby isn't as bad as he's made out to be
I would put From Russia With Love in overrated. Come at me.
>but it's fun!
Hola reddit.
agreed
not too impressive outside of the part where they're on the train
>I can't enjoy things if they aren't super-serious!
hola autismo
>On Her Majesty's Secret Service
I'm actually so glad this is getting acknowledged as the best Bond film.
>cringe inducing schlock
>fun
you have to go back.
that scene is an amusing parody of the climax in Thunderball, I'm sorry you're so autistic that anything campy makes you "cringe" but that's your problem
it's really gotten the re-evaluation it deserves in the last 10 years or so, same with the Dalton films
This is a false, contrarian meme. OHMSS is quite dull in many places, and is a sort of outlier.
The two best Bond films are Goldfinger and my personal favorite, You Only Live Twice.
>calls OHMSS dull
>calls Goldfinger a personal favorite
lel
Bond spends almost half the movie sitting around on a Kentucky ranch, at least the "boring" parts of OHMSS come with beautiful scenery
holy shit this is cool i don't think i ever actually watched Moonraker
Give it a try, hating it (and the rest of the Moore era) has become a meme at this point. Even if you can't appreciate the campy tone it has an amazing villain
jaysus, the fuck were they thinking?
>let's save a few bucks and just pocket what we got from all that product placement
all the Brosnan films look cheap desu
TMWTGG is by far the cheapest looking Bond movie, it looks like had a six-figure budget
The locales of Goldfinger are much better set pieces than those of OHMSS.
>herp le ski resort
>derp te terp worse version of Blofeld
It really is a very much better movie. What the fuck was that silly nigger doing, getting married, throwing off the whole fucking movie? We have all the time in the world. To recognize that this is a moderate, academic installment in the franchise, yes.
KYS. You're wrong about virtually everything. Jinx? A spinoff? A James Bond spinoff? She's not even semi-notable like Felix Leiter.
>The locales of Goldfinger are much better set pieces than those of OHMSS.
not really
>herp le ski resort
>derp te terp worse version of Blofeld
both things I really liked, though I admit to being a Telly Savalas fan in general
>It really is a very much better movie. What the fuck was that silly nigger doing, getting married, throwing off the whole fucking movie? We have all the time in the world. To recognize that this is a moderate, academic installment in the franchise, yes.
More like to separate it from the Connery era and give it a different flavor because, hey, new actor. Makes sense. Lazenby's Bond is more vulnerable so the love story works, it would have been laughable with Connery in the role.
But the best thing about the movie is definitely Diana Rigg as Tracy. She's phenomenal, far better than the blonde dyke in Goldfinger who rolls over on her boss just because Bond's cock is that good
Music totally makes this scene. As a kid I loved this movie.
Barbara Broccoli really did want a spinoff, and was pissed when MGM told her it wasn't going to happen
She's honestly the worst thing that ever happened to the franchise
Why is ohmss so highly regarded, is it just a meme or hipster answer, I always thought it was pretty meh
You can count on women to try shitting up man made things.
I feel once they get to Iceland it starts going more downhill. Sucks that Brosnan didn't get better bond movies cause he could have been one of the best
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>underrated
>Quantum of Solace
>The World Is Not Enough
this cannot be stressed enough. Both are really damn good in their right
Pure contrarianism.
at this point it's contrarian to dislike it
read the thread genius, it's already been explained
The worst Bond movie is objectively Octopussy
Most people don't even remember it exists
DAD had Toby Stephens and Rosamund Pike, so it gets a pass from me
I just can't get past the shaky-cam in Quantum, I have always and will always despise any film that uses it
Die Another Day is very bad, but it's way better than Octopussy or A View To A Kill.
>A View To A Kill.
My guilty pleasure
Octopussy and A View to a Kill are equally terrible for the same reason, they're boring. But yeah, Octopussy is worse because at least AVTAK has Christopher Walken and Grace Jones, and that theme song.
>Also Moonraker while ridiculous is a hoot-and-a-half. A roller coaster ride of charming silliness
Is it really, though? The ending, sure, but everything leading up to it is a total slog imo.
It's not a slog at all, it's one of the most fast-paced films in the series. Every 10 minutes we're whisked off to a new location for some more over-the-top hijinks
There are many issues with Moonraker, but being boring isn't one of them
it's downright insane what an incredibly overrated piece of mediocrity Casino Royale is, the idea that there are people out there right now who think it's the best film in the franchise is astonishing to me
It's a 6/10 flick at best and not even top 10 Bond
this, its grim dark Bond shit, bring back wacky evil villain with massive death base Bond
I like wacky Bond, but there is a middle ground between the extremes. A Bond film can be grounded without being grim, somber fare like the Craig outings. The Dalton films are a great example of serious Bond done right, Craig movies took it too far
The one with George Lazenby is clearly the worst one.
>best
You Only Live Twice
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
The Spy Who Loved Me
>worst
The Man with the Golden Gun
Octopussy
A View to a Kill
Quantum of Solace
>underrated
Live and Let Die
Moonraker
Licence to Kill
Tomorrow Never Dies
The World is Not Enough
>overrated
From Russia with Love
Goldfinger
Casino Royale
Skyfall
>people itt pushing the "OHMSS is bad meme"
Literally no one ever thought this, it's just people meming on it because of lazenby
Lazenby isn't even that bad, he's actually quite serviceable in the role and has good chemistry with Diana Rigg
One thing I love about OHMSS: Savalas is by far the best Blofeld
I thought I was the only one who had this opinion
He's a great actor, pure and simple, and he's aided by top-shelf writing. Some say he acts too much like an Al Capone figure but I think it works.
>Merry Christmas 007
It's Thunderball on Star Wars
>thunderball on Star Wars
Funnily enough, That actually exists, it's called never say never again. Same director of empire
>overrated
>Goldeneye
Motherfucker.
>never say never again
Now I actually like this movie, mainly because I like Connery's older, cynical Bond. If they had made it more dark and Daltonesque it could have been something, instead it's really just a more violent Thunderball. Also Barbara Carrera is fucking hot.
>If they had made it more dark and Daltonesque it could have been something,
The same producer tried remaking it again with Dalton in the 90s
Name one Bond movie with a story that even remotely compares user.
user, you appear with the tedious inevitability of an unloved season.
QoS is definitely underrated and Skyfall way overrated. All that dumb shit from Spectre can be traced back to Skyfall and the critics and the audience praising it even though it was really retarded Sherlock-tier plot.
QoS is solid once you get over the shaky cam. The plot twist is kind of clever, it suits the villain's ideology and it doesn't stray into downright bonkers territory. Mattis' death is one of the few moving deaths in JB franchise and overall the movie is succesful omage to Jason Bourne movies. Plus it's one of the few movies where JB is actually concerned about collecting intel as a spy shouls.
>>worst
>Quantum of Solace
now I have to discard your entire entire post. too bad.
Funny how you post a picture of john rhys-davies yet forget to mention The Living Daylights
What other JB deaths do you consider moving? All I can think of is Vesper, Kerim Bey, Tracy Bond, and arguably M and Felix Leiter's wife.
>best
Goldfinger
Casino Royale
From Russia With Love
Goldeneye
On Her Majesty's Secret Service
>worst
Die Another Day
A View To A Kill
Spectre
The Man With The Golden Gun
>underrated
The Living Daylights
The World Is Not Enough
Tomorrow Never Dies
>memes
Licence To Kill
For Your Eyes Only
Thunderball
People like to shit on Moore and his era, but he honestly is pretty versatile. He can play campy and then go Dalton tier dark in for your eyes only. Octopussy and AVTAK werent particularly good and he probably stayed on too long, but he's pretty underrated and spy who loved me and for your eyes only are some of the best tbqh. And Dalton is just all around good
For Your Eyes Only is ruined by a handful of scenes that completely fuck up its tone, a problem which the much better Dalton films (TLD in particular) don't have
*scene transition to London *"London Calling" starts playing.
They apparently wanted Dalton to do that movie because Moore as gonna get let go (second time they asked him) but he wasn't comfortable with how the series was going at that point.
I agree that it would've made the movie better, and the bibi scenes wouldn't have been as bad because he wasn't grandpa age
The ending parrot scene is the worst offender imo, what a baffling decision.
These with the exception of M since I didn't like Skyfall at all and her death was too on the nose. Maybe Quarell.
Fucking Saunders man
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Quarell was a pretty unimportant dumb muscle for the most part, I'd rate his death somewhere up there with Vijay (whose death was very helpless and gruesome)
I can't believe I forgot about this. He's also a character who begrudgingly has to deal with Bond's extravagance and who did absolutely nothing wrong, poor guy. The Living Daylights is massively underrated.
Where's Goldeneye? Where's The Living Daylights?
Are you a complete fucking Sup Forums dwelling retard, or what?
If you're going to be a fucking nerd at least do it right. Don't be a fucking Melvin and make yourself look retarded.
>If you're going to be a fucking nerd at least do it right. Don't be a fucking Melvin and make yourself look retarded.
this should be stickied to every single board on this website.
>Lazenby's Bond is more vulnerable so the love story works, it would have been laughable with Connery in the role.
Definitely, there's a funny sequence in OHMSS in which Lazenby uses the exact same routine to pick up multiple women, it really shows he's an inexperienced and flawed womanizer.
That HMS Queen Elisabeth set is fantastic though
>overrated
>Goldeneye
u wot? Literally no one outside of Sup Forums ever even mentions the film. It's underrated if anything.
Only the last two are because MGM had financial trouble. Goldeneye and Tomorrow both had amazing gun effects.
Goldeneye is also really beloved on reddit but it's actually a great movie. It, The Living Daylights and Casino Royale are some of the few movies that get better every rewatch.
That scene where the woman is eaten by dogs is pure kino. I mean, it looks like Kubrick could have directed that part.
This opinion is 100 percent sincere.
Holy shit this scene is kino
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For your eyes only is really bad, the music sticks out like a sore thumb.
bond is escaping on ski's----- - A campy late 70's early 80's soundtrack plays in the background.
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Where the fuck is the proper bond themes and soundtrack?
Also this has Pedo- bond kek
most rapey bond = connery
most pedo bond = moore
most evil bond = craig
most deadly bond = Dalton
most std's bond = brosnan
I wasn't joking user
>Quantum of Solace
>The World Is Not Enough
are tied with Die another Die for the worst for me.
Its like half of a pretty decent movie, and half over the top moonraker tier schlock. Its pretty good up until they get to the ice palace.
Dalton films have appreciative value on every rewatch due to subtlety. This don't work mostly on You Only Live Twice and Goldfinger. These two survived on rewatch through great one-liners on almost every sequence.
Why does Piece Brosman have such a big head?
Is he too smart for Bond movies?
fuck OP and all you faggots
DaD is probably one of the best movies out there
not even baiting, I've seen it over 20 times
>Octopussy
>doesn't have eight pussies
Moonraper
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octopussy
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dr No
fassbender as bond what did they mean by this
>tfw too intelligent for non-thicc women
Live and let die shouldn't be mentioned at all lad, these racist stains on our past aren't to be proud of.
best bond theme
best bond girl
best baddie gang
walken is a bond villain?
Actually do enjoy the Moore films for what they are, they're pretty funny in their shittiness. Like how this guy is clearly just holding the claw, literally no effort put in.