What does Sup Forums think of Rock Identitaire Français?
For those unaware, Rock Identitaire Français (RIF) was a movement in France consisting of Nationalist musicians rocking against Americanization and multiculturalism on grounds of national and cultural identity.
Vae Victis has some fascinating credentials such two of their members' previous connection to Ultime Assaut and prominently featuring a female vocalist. Their music blends Celtic themes with hard riffs and folksy instrumentation. The album is a thoroughly fun affair in spite of being somewhat predictable.
The opening track begins with all-too-familiar epic yet whimsical motifs that would sound more at home scoring the opening scene to a forgotten '90s high fantasy RPG. The progressions feel tacked on for the sake of genre aesthetics, but they set the tone for the rest of the EP. All the songs are of an enjoyable length that don't overstay their welcome.
The songwriting here all compliment the themes established by the music. As you would've surmised, our title track is a tribute to the Frankish King who successfully unified all the tribes under one ruler. "La Dame du Lac" goes into Arthurian territory. The sole overtly political track here is "Résistant Gaélique," pleading for a ceasefire between the Irish Nationalists and Ulster Loyalists. Although I do not speak a word of French, our vocalist Carine conveys these lyrics wonderfully with her angelic voice.
The highlight here is the title track with its energetic riffs that convey the narrative. All the other tracks here are much softer and emotive. In the end, you're left yearning for more, but the band provides the satisfying introductory experience for those seeking Nationalist Celtic Rock.
Nah, more like In Memoriam, Ile de France, Vae Victis (previously mentioned), Elendil, et cetera.
Most of RIF bands are oriented towards Alt-Rock, Folk Rock and Hardcore rather than Metal.
Michael Hall
Oh shit the autistic RAC user is back!
Are there any contemporary RAC bands? Like ones formed within the last 2-3 years?
Jacob Gutierrez
anything european that resists american cultural hegemony is inherently good. i say this as an american, don't fall victim to our multicultural all inclusive non sense
In recent years, there aren't too many RAC bands I follow aside from the old guard who still make music. I'm more interested in RAC from a historical perspective, how they fit into the context of their time and how their message holds up today.
I can give some recommendations for stuff that caught my ear, though.
Gavin Green
Have you told you about Janus, the Italian Fascist Prog band? They're very much worth listening to, but again, they're older.
And, speaking of Fascist Prog Rock, have I told you about Carré Ladich Marchal?
Carré.Ladich.Marchal was conceived by singer/lyricist Olivier Carré and multi-instrumentalist Jack Marchal, both men active in the French Nationalist movements. With the help of Janus's mastermind Mario Ladich on drums, all went to work at Ladich's studio in Rome and recorded "Science & Violence" in just two days before releasing it independently. Olivier Carré sadly met his end in 1994 in a motorcycle accident.
"Science & Violence" serves as a foil to Pink Floyd. Influenced by some of France's notable Prog Rock acts from that era, the material is quite original, combining the psychedelic influences with theatrical lyrics, rockin' grooves and some soaring keyboards. The spacey synthesizers, screeching guitars and French narration wouldn't sound out of place on a Pulsar record whereas other sections are more raw with abrasive electric riffs and acoustic flourishes. Some of the music is characterized by soft electric moves and over-the-top singing lines, surrounded by mellow keyboard themes, building a slight psychedelic atmosphere, which will eventually explode into lovely, melodic soloing with a discreet symphonic base. There are also sporadic, harder runs with the guitars in evidence and an electrified atmosphere.
Two tracks recorded for a planned follow up made it to the 1997 reissue on CD. Sadly, the Prog Rock which made their music memorable was absconded for some sort of Minimal Wave/Minimal Synth. While competent, neither song is half as catchy as The Final Sound's "Genetics." Still, there are few genuine obscurities in Prog Rock left, so it's nice to have something like this still out there, and the political affiliations gives this band a dangerous edge.
>Nationalists Isn't it a bit strange that french nationalists make rock music? Rock is mainly an anglo-american tradition. It's probably not worth listening to
Andrew Brown
Glad you like it :3
It's getting way too late for me, but I'll return to this thread, presuming it's still alive. If not, I'll make a new one.
Ryder Murphy
You'd have to understand this from a historical perspective.
With the ‘68s and student leftists openly rebelling in France, the extreme right had to adapt lest their youth be lost to the rising tide of new political culture. Many young right-wingers shied away from political and religious traditionalism, and feelings about dominant culture was therefore modified. Gradual intrusion of musical radicalization produced new forces within the mainstream. Sid Vicious and Siouxsie Sioux sported Swastikas. Kraftwerk played Avant-Garde electronic music, in German, with style and postures which vividly contrasted with failed Hippie values. The image of Joy Division produced a post-war Fascist aesthetic dress attitude. Rock culture was now free to marry the Evolian Revolt Against the Modern World. In 1975,Serge Gainsbourg released the controversial Rock Around the Bunker – the ultimate transgression. Coming from the son of emigrant Russian Jews, Serge might have unintentionally opened the floodgates to new means of expression in the post-Gaullist France. The young French Nationalist no longer felt anthropological proximity to Afro-Anglo-American culture. Rock can now be assimilated to white culture, beyond that it may even become a component of a Nationalist revolutionary.
One of the big movers and shakers was Jack Marchal (mentioned earlier ITT). When asked about African contributions to Rock music, he answered, "Show me in traditional African music anything faintly resembling Jazz, Ragtime or Blues: it does not exist. The rhythms of early Jazz can already be heard in Anglo-Saxon operettas of the 19th Century. It is true to say that there have been some magnificent black performers of Jazz, though more rarely in Rock'n'Roll. It is also true that whites have promoted all phases of its evolution. Like it or not, that's just how it is."
Thomas Jenkins
Meant for
Anthony Jenkins
>Evolian Revolt Against the Modern World.
Evola was a LARPing faggot who drank his own cum and thought he was a wizard. His "revolt" was a retreat, and his concept of "traditionalism" was a hidge-podge, ctrl+p-ctrl+v of King Arthur stories and Sufi Islam. The problem with Nationalist rock is the same with the LARPing faggots on Sup Forums, it's all posturing, no conviction, no direction. If they really wanted to revolt against modernity they'd join a monastery, put you don't get a sense of radical chic by actually looking inward.
Isaiah Sanders
Big if true
Julian King
Reminder that the best french band of all time (Stereolab) are leftists.
Feels good man.
Blake Perez
>white culture
The idea that a singular, homogeneous "white" culture exists is the result of the degradation of traditional European Ethnic and religious cultures by the Judeo-Protestant liberal ideology that has prevailed since the Enlightenment. You can't cure poison with more poison.
Brandon Powell
Fuck off Sup Forums
Dylan Anderson
moar sauce nao! mega.nz nao! rapidshit nao!
Camden Cruz
>hey guys right wingers can be good musicians too!
Jaxon Edwards
This guy reminds me of the dude who would spam sharethreads with all that Swede shit. This is worse though cause it’s politically charged.
Elijah Cook
>Rock Identitaire Français (RIF) was a movement in France consisting of Nationalist musicians rocking against Americanization and multiculturalism >playing rock
