Orcs are uncivilized savages that eat each other

>Orcs are uncivilized savages that eat each other
>they build great structures and machines

How is this reconciled?

China.

Their intelect to build cruel but smart things comes from Sauron. Without him they are feral.

This Sauron keeps them in line. When he dies the Orcs become confused and disorganised.

The white wizard tells them what to do.

Orcs are more about industry, while the forces of good represent more antiquated, artisan stuff

.....wow

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>How did black people organize such a large cotton industry? I thought they were suppose to be dumdums

So the Orcs are the good guys, representing modernity against retrograde moarchism?

>Orcs are uncivilized savages that eat each other

Orcs are corrupted and tortured Elves

From Tolkien's point of view Orcs are evil.

... which turned them into uncivilized savages that eat each other

>Witch-King of Angmar powerful enough to knock Gandalf off his horse and shatter his staff
>gets destroyed by a hobbit and a woman from Rohan

How is this reconciled?

yeah they build shit fast so they're the good guys
got it in one there Sup Forums

They need a Morgoth, a Sauron or a Saruman to reign them. Without a higher dark power, they just descent into infighting, feral behavior and low populations.

No because Tolkien hated industrialism.

Tolkien is wrong like usual.

>Riders of Rohan have the high ground

Its over. Saruman is finished

Tolkein supposedly wanted to give Orcs more depth and was going to make them really good farmers and shit since they live in super fertile volcanic areas like Mordor. Would also explain how they feed Sauron's fucking huge armies.

Ok serious question, why Sup Forumstards making so many lotr threads?

Blacks built the pyramids. Obviously guided by a white man.

What actions do the orcs take in the movie that shows they're good people?

He was arrogant I guess

Was Morgoth white?

Not an argument

I think Sup Forums is still actually trying to "convert" boards to their hivemind.
lotr threads are pretty much the last good thing about Sup Forums, so naturally thats what they prey on.

It really is completely meaningless though, since it just means that a higher percentage of people who visit Sup Forums will be Sup Forumstards. They wont convince people so much as they will gain territory, which on the internet is completely meaningless.
If this place gets too shit actual Sup Forums will just move somewhere else.

>actual Sup Forums
Is long gone since this board is mostly memes and capeshit now.

Merry stabbed him in the leg with a cursed blade from the Barrow-downs. All the Barrow-down stuff isn't in the films, because it would have ruined the tone and pacing of Fellowship.

their leader is an elder god

What's their endgame? Say they are successful in genociding men, then what?

Sauron's endgame was probably the same as Morgoth's who basically wanted to be free of the Valar and their influence and shape Middle Earth according to his own desires. So probably just helping Sauron play God and occasional civil wars

Came here to post this