Do you guys REALLY believe in democracy?

Do you guys REALLY believe in democracy?

It's the most easily corruptible system and just bread ans circus to make the normies believe theif opinion matters.

Every important event is already rigged, there are elections only to make people believe that the system works.

Direct Democracy 2.0 Now !

I've grown to have certain Monarchist sympathies.

>>white

Democracy can only work in small communities. If you want something bigger you need a hereditary monarchy.

H-how about a Caliphate minus the hereditary part?

I took AP government classes in high school and some more government and political classes in college. Let me just say this, democracy is impossible and kills nations

Sorry Abdul but Islam is cancer.

Democracy is the most terrible form of government.

No matter what system you put in place humans will fuck it up because we are humans. the advantage of democracy is that since the power is spread amoungst hundreds of people, even if 10 become corrupt it doesnt fuck everything up. Corruption only becomes a problem in democracy when it becomes ingrained in your political culture. Compared to a monarchy or a dictatorship where if the leader becomes corrupt you are fucked and fucked hard

99% of politicians in high positions are corrupt. How do you think they got there?

Democracy somewhat worked for greece back then, when only a select few, educated and actual greek born citizens could vote.

When you have multi ethnic states and the non-natives can actually vote, then the system is fucked up. Look at the US, they have to secure the black vote, the latino vote, the womens vote and so on. Totally fucking retarded. How the fuck do you get a working community going when everybody feels like a special snowflakes whos desires have to be represented more than the others.

All this devide and conquer in current democracy is just cancer to society. We need another national socialist revolution, but the native citizens of each country first, barely any welfare for foreigners and only those with the actual desire to assimilate and an actual work ethic will stay.

No why would anyone ever believe in democracy

>even if 10 become corrupt it doesnt fuck everything up.

Tell that to chancellor merkel, finance minister schäuble, commie justice minister maas, president gauck and vice chancellor gabriel. These few are enough to ruin this country and we would have a civil war already would they not have closed the balkan route.

>Corruption only becomes a problem in democracy when it becomes ingrained in your political culture

Looking at actualy history.... this is the case for the countries france, britain and the US since 1850 and spread to the other countries after WW1. So..... we have it everywhere.

Not at all. I hate libertarianism, it's leftist.
I hate "conservatism" because it's now a leftist idea. Western civilization wasn't built on liberty and equality; that's a lie you're told as a young fella to help you sleep at night. Real western civilization was built on honour and propriety and morality.

Look up confucius. Many of his writings are foreign to us, but they would strike a chord with older Western civilization, because many of the things he talks about, ethnocentrism, propriety, nobility, are the core of western civilization.

>It's the most easily corruptible system
Compared to what? Autocratic systems where all it takes is one person to fuck the entire country up?

Democracy is still the best system, there just needs to be stronger anti trust laws and a separation of politicians and big business interests.

>I hate libertarianism, it's leftist.

Tell that to my face sucker and see what happens!

> there just needs to be stronger anti trust laws and a separation of politicians and big business interests.

And then what? You still live in a capitalist system, meaning you are still in economic competetion with other countries, meaning you´ll probably need to import 3rd worlders for slave labour in order to compete and ruin your national identity. Otherwise the other countries would dominate you, crush your economy and you can kiss your hegemony good bye.

It's LEFTIST! If you seriously think a piece of paper endows you with equal rights and freedoms, that makes you a leftist. That's what leftism is. When the French assemblies would arrange people by their views, they made monarchists and aristocrats and nobility sit on the right, and they made faggots like stefan and nigel sit to the left, because they're LEFTISTS.

>he thinks that the left and right spectrum back then means the same as today

Lay down the weed leaf

>OP and all these replies
This board is satire right?

I believe in a mix of direct and representational democracy where the people as whole has the ultimate say

>he believs that libertarianism is egalitarian

Educate yourself and read Hoppe.

Edit: for western nations that is. I'm pretty fucking sure democracy doesn't work in the midddle east for example, were a pinochet type leadership is probably for the best. Or like in the UAE, which seems to be doing well for a nation of subhumans

I believe in democracy if you have a country with 95% well educated people who see politics as their business and politicians as their employees who have to be kept in check. That means : a daily involvement in politics and extending the idea of political duty beyond just voting every four years. Mass demonstrations, strikes, people actually looking up who they vote for and checking if he does as promised when in office. Every transfer of money has to be viewed as a political statement, because it is a transfer of power.

But that's just utopia with no country in the world even being near that state or working towards it. I don't believe in democracy.

>meaning you´ll probably need to import 3rd worlders for slave labour in order to compete and ruin your national identity
Why would we need to do that? America is big enough we could be completely autonomous if we had too but even so that isn't necessary. Put tariffs on imports.

>Otherwise the other countries would dominate you
Who the fuck do you think you're talking too buddy? What do you seriously think China is ever going to be on our level when they are rapidly destroying their landscape and they have a population of uneducated lead poisoned monkeys?

Globalism has been hurting our position in the world more than anything else. Fix the education system, our immigration laws, and break trusts and our economy will boom again.

Do you have anything better?

Democracy is a good system, not because of the governance system but because of the emphasis on individual freedom.

The problem today anyway is not democracy, it is culture, you can replace democracy by a dictatorship or a monarchy if you still have hollywood, the tabloids, the stupid talkshows, the porn abundance, etc... nothing will change.
The problem is consumer culture.

Anyway having higher standards for voters could be a good thing, most of the voter base purely vote on the highest bidder (think niggers) which is toxic for the long term.

Oh hey Saddiq.

I believe it would be worth a try.

>The problem is consumer culture.
You see this is how the Liberal Elite will argue.
"Its not that they disagree, they just need to be educated then they will agree with us 100% and we are always right"
Look at more educated nations, with more skilled workforces, that still carry democracy in various forms. All of them tend toward socialist policies, and when those get tired and they realize the economy is fucked they turn hard right until they weave back to the left again.

There is no good system, there are only decent people living decent lives. Indecent, criminal, and untrustworthy actions cannot be prevented by government fiat or system alone.