After browsing this board for a while. I have a huge fucking rant to say Sup Forums. You show me a machine or a computer program that can match the stellar majesty of Luciano Pavarotti’s singing “Nessun Dorma,” and I’ll acknowledge it as music. Until then, it’s fucking garbage.
If you’re under 25 years old — or an immature 30-plus — I’m about to set your ass straight.
So, listen up.
Your music is fucking garbage.
There, I said it.
Mindless crap. Eardrum-bursting, dagger-in-the-eyes, ass-bagging, blow your fucking brains out — unadulterated dog shit. That pretty much sums up the type of music that’s popular with today’s young people. Listen, you stupid sons of bitches. I’m talking at you. I’m your elder. My opinion demands respect. Your music hasn’t got life. It’s fucking dead. Your music is void of humanity. It’s as fake as a porn queen’s orgasm. There’s no soul. It’s tripe. It’s a carp in the sea of music. The stuff you listen to was created by fucking machines. Today’s “artists” — there’s an oxymoron — don’t even need to know how to play musical instruments or sing. In other words, no fucking talent whatsoever is needed to succeed today in music. You heard me. No. Talent. Whatsoever.
And, I’m fucking sick of it because the current generation is taking the gold we gave you and dragging it into a sewer. Listen up, you little pricks. I’m not stuck in some kind of classic rock time warp. Fact is, I expose myself to many different kinds of music. I give all music a chance. Even the techno-trash littering the modern music scene is something I’ve tried to digest, which I found to be like choking down a plate of raw oysters laced with salmonella. It would be nice to enjoy fresh musical acts. I want to hear new songs. I like some young people, especially when they get my order right. But real music is written and performed by humans, not a fucking computer program linked up to a laser show. Fact: The more fancy gadgets and distractions you need, the most your music just flat out sucks.
Music should convey some sense of humanity — who we are, and what we feel. I know that’s a hard concept to digest since your idea of a relationship is picking up a new Twitter follower. Where’s the love and romance in the mind-numbing rubbish that’s played at most nightclubs? Is there any conveyance pain and loss? Or pride and joy? How about playing a catchy tune that’s just fun to sing along with? Is that too much to fucking ask?
Jeremiah Stewart
I don’t expect to like everything that’s new. As an amateur observer of the human condition, I freely acknowledge that successive generations are obliged to a continuation of the species which sometimes entails pushing boundaries and violating the preferences of their elders. History shows the more radically different one generation is from one to the next, the greater degree of innovations are sparked from such permutations. Music is just one by-product of inevitable cultural and technological shifts, sometimes mislabeled as advances.
Yes, yes, yes! New music should piss off plenty of parents and leathery jokers like me. At least I’ll accept “cultural evolution” as being inevitable, and necessary.
If you don’t believe this, take a look at the past century. Nearly a hundred years ago, traditional musicians hated a new sound called jazz. Later, jazz loyalists despised rock n’ roll and even the early sound of Motown. After that, the rockers hated disco music. Then, just about everyone hated New Wave and the 1980’s. Next came rap music which irritated everyone over the age of 30. Now, it’s hip hop and something called dubstep, which is essentially music made by computers and sound-making software. This garbage makes rap sound like fucking Amadeus.
Jace Hughes
You honestly should’ve used Adorno for you’re whiny Jewish rant, Janacek was too nice of man to represent your faggotry
Luis Collins
tl;dr
Oliver Green
There’s a reason this “music” is used as a weapon on suspected terrorists, forcing them to wear earphones and being bombarded with such abuse for hours. I’m not making this up. This is the brain-frying shit they put on the headphones and strap to the ears of prisoners who are handcuffed behind their backs and sit naked in jail cells while they are forced to endure this madness. I’d rather blow my fucking brains out, and if I ever did managed to get out, I’d be running off to join the nearest terrorist cell in order to extract my revenge.
Have a listen this rubbish if you can stand it for more than a few seconds
I know what you’re thinking. You want to go after my music. You want to blast away at me. Go ahead, fuckers. See if you can top what I like at the conclusion of this article. You’re drawing so fucking dead you should even be in my game.
Andrew Flores
So, what constitutes real music? Here’s a list of things I believe to be essential.
REAL MUSIC DEFINED BY [redacted]:
(1) Real music is created by humans, not by a machine or a computer.
(2) Real music has structure and consistency.
(3) Real music elicits real emotions — of love, loss, anger, fear, happiness, hope, inspiration, or anything related to the gambit of being human.
(4) Real music requires talent.
(5) Real music requires instruments and/or voices.
(6) Real music should be cross generational.
(7) Real music shouldn’t need gadgets or special effects to be enjoyed.
Here and now, I’ll leave you with a video clip of real music (CLICK BELOW). When one of those fucking machines creates a sound that can somehow match this magical majesty, then give me a call. Until then, don’t label what you listen to as “music.”
It’s not music. It’s garbage.
That concludes my rant. Please follow with some discussion please.
Blake Garcia
>what a travesty people don't seem to enjoy the same music I do anymore Why should I want to care if your favoured music isn't palatable for me?
Jackson Nguyen
hey peep my remix of Steam Machine by Daft Punk and maybe you'll change your mind
Every time people try to make a thread like this it ends up being retarded as fuck, I'm actually kind of embarrassed for you.
Thomas Brooks
So what you're saying is basically that because mozart didn't play every single instrument in the orchestra himself, that he couldn't write music? There's a difference between composing and playing music you narcissist fuck Bet you're jerking your 35 year old 2 inch virgin cock to all the drivel you just wrote up
I hate electronic music as well, it saddens me that virtually all popular music going forward will be made primarily on computers. The human element is diminishing.
It's possible to tell whether a 60's soul record came from Detroit, Chicago, Muscle Shoals, or New Orleans just by listening to it. Can the same be said of EDM?
Bentley Ward
>ywn live in a world where atonal music is the norm
>not taking advantage of the vast possibilities opened up by technology pls
>It's possible to tell whether a 60's soul record came from Detroit, Chicago, Muscle Shoals, or New Orleans just by listening to it. Can the same be said of EDM? this is also a terrible argument since electronic music is mostly recorded in personal studios
Asher Nelson
>under 25 years old >or an immature 30-plus
So the 25-29 year olds listen to good music?
Xavier Bailey
This is the rolling Stravinsky. write "travel well, stravy " and acquire an ability to turn any folk tune into your composition without anyone noticing it.
Asher Fisher
>(7) Real music shouldn’t need gadgets or special effects to be enjoyed >posts youtube links Hmmmmmm
Leo Cooper
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Owen Gray
>pop music way to shoot yourself in the foot
Anthony Robinson
Yeah. I turn 30 next year, going to have to stop listening to all my patrician stuff and listen solely to Def Leppard. Sucks but rules are rules.
Ethan Jones
Those "vast possibilities" just make music sound overproduced.
>this is also a terrible argument since electronic music is mostly recorded in personal studios
Point is it has no regional flavour.
Christian Robinson
Well OP began with trite love songs with mentioning Opera so it's fitting. It always boils down to that comic.
Isaiah Russell
Yeah dude. I turn 33 this year and I've only been allowed to listen to Motley Crue and Aerosmith the past 3ish years. It's killing me, but rules are rules
Robert Lee
I don't want to listen to one guy who has virtuoso talent, i want to listen to a wide variety of new sounds and new artists who are doing different things from each other. I want to listen to something new every week and be surprised by what I get. Luciano Pavarotti simply can not offer me that experience.
Brayden King
Go back to sleep dad
Ryan Thomas
janacek is NOT for shitposting
Hunter Reed
>Those "vast possibilities" just make music sound overproduced. Someone's not paying attention.
>Point is it has no regional flavour. This has nothing to do with technology or computers.
Dylan Johnson
>atonal music
Grayson Wood
>Someone's not paying attention.
Explain what you mean then.
Ethan Richardson
>Aerosmith I’m truly sorry user.
Austin Mitchell
>opera >pop music Stop shooting, user.
Also OP is a faggot, leave Janacek alone.
Jonathan Perez
Entire genres are possible entirely because of technology and computers. It's liberating, not homogenizing. If you're thinking about pop music and EDM being boring, that's the fault of the audiences. Popular taste is almost always boring. What's popular represents only a small fraction of what's actually done.
Nicholas Cruz
*killing decent genres and replacing them with interchangeable shit with no cultural basis
Thomas Perry
you might be retarded if you sincerely believe that
Nolan Clark
Do you really think writing long winded drivel and using Janacek images makes you any smarter?
Justin Smith
>It's liberating, not homogenizing This is what people raised on capitalist brainwashing believe.
Jace Thompson
using a computer gives you autonomy
feel free to make an actual valid point at any time
Ryder Murphy
Opera was pop music, especially peeps like Caruso and Pavarotti. You can lament about it as much as you want but they still were commercial trite love songs.
Joshua Campbell
It's quite possible that in a while all art will be made by computers of some kind. When we learn more about genetic algorithms I can imagine we can put in some parameters based on what most people think is beautiful. i.e. symmetry, harmony, innocence etc. and then let the computer generate art in a learning progress. After a while every piece it puts could be different and beautiful. The word 'human' will lose it's meaning. Creativity isn't magic, and once we find the right patterns humans could be replaced entirely. Although I don't believe human art will ever disappear. People don't like it when the technology seems to outpace them, so they won't let it happen. I've got nothing against using computers as a tool to create more complex art more easily though. In the right hands a computer is an endless well of creativity
Cameron Phillips
Individuality is most often born from necessity, if everyone has the exact same tools there's bound to be pess variety
Thomas Murphy
OP is a faggot but pop =/= popular.
Brody Carter
Wow your argument against a few hundred year old genre being pop music is naming two 20th fucking century crossover-classical PERFORMERS (not composers) wtf opera is pop music now
>Opera is a key part of the Western classical music tradition. >Classical music is art music produced or rooted in the traditions of Western culture. You're a fucking retard.
Julian Mitchell
There's a far broader variety of tools now than at any prior point in history. You can design your own shit in Max/MSP or whatever if that's what you want.
Aaron Howard
Yes it's pop music, sorry to burst your bubble.
Adam Bell
art is subjective but also kind of not so lets just enjoy whatever experiment tickles our fancy but also have some appreciation for pre-existing structures and methods and it's fine either way because there are plenty of artists who take from both worlds without appealing to some kind of dogma or strict ruleset so yeah
tl;dr music is doing fine and people have the freedom to decide what's good so cry more reactionaries
Jacob Lewis
no it doesnt
Landon Rogers
It's not and I proved it's not with accurate definitions literally everybody not a complete moron will disagree with. Your arguments are trash faggot get outta my fucking face.
Aaron Morgan
agree with* god fucking damn it You're still a massive clueless faggot and I don't even like or just listen to opera.
Carson Peterson
if whoever you listen to is that good then post their soundclouds